If you're still sticking to ALL the rules/guidance - why?

[RaspberryCoulis]

Will start by saying I am not sticking to the covid rules any more. Obviously I can't go places which aren't open. But we have had people in the house, kids are going out with friends probably in larger numbers than are permitted, we're crossing local authority boundaries which is supposedly illegal in Scotland. Why? Because we've been in lockdown for a year, cases here are very low, and some things are more important than Covid.

But on every thread there are people claiming that they are sticking rigidly to every single rule and guideline, never breaking ANY rule. They would probably say I was a selfish covid-denier who was hellbent on murdering their granny.

So if you're sticking to all the guidelines and rules, without fail - why? People who are clinically extremely vulnerable (officially) I can understand in part if they're not vaccinated. But the rest of you? Is it because you're scared of Covid, or scared of your neighbours, or scared of breaking the law by mistake?

@ddl1

Life is for living and it's time we all got on with it.

Life isn't for living any more if you're dead.

And there is much less 'getting on with life' if you are chronically ill, which is a more likely outcome than death.

Quite. Vile.

But PP are okay so that's all that matters.

I’m sticking to them to minimise the risk of contributing to a situation that could see either of my DC’s classes or my own being made to self isolate for 10 days. If a school bubble pops it won’t be through my doing if I can avoid it.

And there is much less 'getting on with life' if you are chronically ill, which is a more likely outcome than death.

Definitely. I have no way of knowing whether I’ll make a full recovery from this. And either way, I’ve lost a year of my life that I’ll never get back.

Yes it’s still much more likely that this won’t happen to you. But there are previously young and fit people who wouldn’t have expected it to happen to them either. According to the government research, it’s a one in ten chance that if you catch the virus you’ll develop Long Covid.

I assume that this research is based on people who develop symptoms; it’s impossible to know how many have had it asymptomatically. It includes everyone who has been unwell for one month or over, including those who have been on ventilators.

Yes life is for living so we all have to abide. Watched Kate Garraway programme the other day, that might make you rule breakers re think.

@Witchcraftandhokum

If you're doing this and sending kids to school then fuck you, you fucking selfish twatbag.

Agreed I'm afraid.

@Flowers24

Yes life is for living so we all have to abide. Watched Kate Garraway programme the other day, that might make you rule breakers re think.

But the pandemic is over. Pps said so. Sorry Derek.

@kellehi I agree with you, but when it comes to covid a lot of people seem to lose all ability to sensibly compare risks.

So for example my 70 year old father in law has barely left his house for a year (and when he does he complains that a lot of people outside aren’t wearing masks). Yet this same man drinks virtually a bottle of wine a day and has no plans to cut down.

But if you suggest to him that the risk of catching covid outside on a pretty quiet residential street is a lower risk to his health than the risk of excessive alcohol you just get blank looks and ‘but it’s covid?!’

I’m about to have my bowel and colon removed to give me a quality of life that I haven’t had for years, so yes, sticking to rules because I’d like a chance to go out. I couldn’t go out now even if covid didn’t exist due to severe faecal incontinence due to Ulcerative Colitis.

@Gilead

I’m about to have my bowel and colon removed to give me a quality of life that I haven’t had for years, so yes, sticking to rules because I’d like a chance to go out. I couldn’t go out now even if covid didn’t exist due to severe faecal incontinence due to Ulcerative Colitis.

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@Witchcraftandhokum

If you're doing this and sending kids to school then fuck you, you fucking selfish twatbag.

Succinct, to the point and spot on.

I’m sticking to them but I wfh, I meet friends for walks so not really opportunities not to. The worst I did was sit in a bench w one friend before we were allowed.
Dh has gone back to his office but he’s on his own there apart from sharing toilet:kitchen facilities with one other person. Was getting hard for him to wfh full time. He doesn’t break them socially.
DD come back from
Uni - wasn’t keeping to restrictions there but here she will have to more or less
DS has met more than one friend at a time and been into gardens but not inside.
I feel bad for the young people, but for older adults there is no excuse not to stick to the rules pretty much (obviously exceptions apply for carers etc)

@RaspberryCoulis

Will start by saying I am not sticking to the covid rules any more. Obviously I can't go places which aren't open. But we have had people in the house, kids are going out with friends probably in larger numbers than are permitted, we're crossing local authority boundaries which is supposedly illegal in Scotland. Why? Because we've been in lockdown for a year, cases here are very low, and some things are more important than Covid.

But on every thread there are people claiming that they are sticking rigidly to every single rule and guideline, never breaking ANY rule. They would probably say I was a selfish covid-denier who was hellbent on murdering their granny.

So if you're sticking to all the guidelines and rules, without fail - why? People who are clinically extremely vulnerable (officially) I can understand in part if they're not vaccinated. But the rest of you? Is it because you're scared of Covid, or scared of your neighbours, or scared of breaking the law by mistake?

Believe me You aren’t alone op Despite the pile on you’ve had here There’s loads having their own quiet rebellion

So it's OK then is it?

I’m not sticking to the rules.
I live on an estate, plenty of people here are not sticking to the rules. If you go to the park, hundreds of people arnt sticking by the rules. Some of the rules don’t make any sense, so I understand what you are saying op.
In my opinion, it’s about being sensible rather than blindly obedient. Im not going clubbing in a mates front room but, for me, meeting up with a couple socially distanced friends in the park is fine.

@BrandNewBicycle

I’m not sticking to the rules. I live on an estate, plenty of people here are not sticking to the rules. If you go to the park, hundreds of people arnt sticking by the rules. Some of the rules don’t make any sense, so I understand what you are saying op. In my opinion, it’s about being sensible rather than blindly obedient. Im not going clubbing in a mates front room but, for me, meeting up with a couple socially distanced friends in the park is fine.

On my estate you wouldn’t even know there was a problem. Everything as normal. Tradesmen working, people moving house, decorators in etc , families visiting. Everyone friendly and supportive. No one being nasty. It’s only when you go to supermarkets that you see people in masks that you are reminded.

quiet rebellion...sounds so noble...well done

@HazeyJaneII
😂😂😂
Noble it isn’t.
It’s called getting on with life
You should try it.!

@ddl1

Life is for living and it's time we all got on with it.

Life isn't for living any more if you're dead.

And there is much less 'getting on with life' if you are chronically ill, which is a more likely outcome than death.

Well my MIL is dead, not covid though, but still her last months were spent pretty much not seeing friends and family.

Well she did get covid, ironically whilst in hospital when no one could visit her, but we locked down to protect her and her ilk, but she died anyway, having been lonely for a year.

I am one of many where there will be no picking things back up from last year, but it wasn't covid, so it doesn't matter.

I'm still sticking by the rules (even though I've had the first jab, but obviously can still transmit) because 1/ it's the law and 2/ if everyone decided not to follow the rules, we'd be back to square one with thousands dying every day.

I'm not a selfish twat. I want my vulnerable parents to live and I don't want to be responsible for anyone dying.

So I follow the rules.

During the war I ignored posters like this one here. My lips were very loose because they hurt from keeping them tight all that time. It’s not like everyone was sinking ships. I couldn’t go on like that with such tight sore lips. Those ships would probably have sunk anyway sooner or later.

[quote Dowser]@HazeyJaneII
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Noble it isn’t.
It’s called getting on with life
You should try it.![/quote]
We won't do though, because we aren't selfish arseholes.

Lockdowns don't work. Well, they do, but only if everyone undergoes strict home isolation. But that is impossible. People have to go out for perfectly legitimate reasons. Those reasons are given in the exemptions and are the reason that the police aren't arresting anyone who steps foot outside their door.

More covid cases/deaths are generated by people undertaking these perfectly permitted activities, i.e. going to work and accessing the NHS, not to mention the shortcomings of the NHS infection control itself than there are by people breaking the law, i.e. sneakily meeting up with another person indoors.

So, again, lockdowns don't work because you can't exclude people from meeting any other people outside of their household 100% of the time. It's not that 'the last lockdown didn't work because of people who broke the rules'

Lockdowns will never work and hopefully the government will figure this out before 2022...

Why? Because I'm not selfish.

Because I don't want to catch Covid and I believe if we all stick to the rules we will keep it in check until we can all get vaccinated.