To not want to take part in the 8pm doorstep vigil

[MiscUser9823]

AIBU to not want to take part in the 8pm doorstep vigil?

My reasons - I like to keep to myself, my neighbours are hypocrites and virtue signallers, it wont make a difference, and I dont like being told what to do by.

First I've heard of it, loads of people will be blissfully unaware. I doubt anyone will be watching your door to see if you join in OP.

The main one was at midday, the doorstep one is for social media. I won't be participating.

I didn’t do the clapping but I’ll certainly light a candle at 8pm for the victims of covid, British or otherwise.

Haven’t heard about it, won’t be doing it now that I have

No I’ve refused to take part in all doorstep clapping, candle lighting and vigilling activists for the last year.

I tell you what I will do though- and wish other people would- is put my vote where my virtue signalling is.

I want to respect the memories of dead covid victims- so Ill (once again) vote against the election of this corrupt, incompetent government.

I want NHS and key workers to be appreciated - so I’ll vote for a government that will pay them properly.

I want women to be safe on the streets- so I’ll vote for a government that prioritises women’s rights and equality in their policies and reflects that commitment in cabinet choices and legislation.

And before anyone says this isn’t about party politics- the personal IS political now lads, and has been ever since Johnson and his govt decided to make the populace PERSONALLY responsible in their rhetoric and legislative choices for the disaster of the pandemic death toll, when we all know it was a failure of govt response, not Jane next door popping to see her grandkids so she doesn’t top herself out of sheer loneliness and misery.

YANBU

I cannot abide all the virtue signalling that goes on around these rather pointless rituals. Stand your ground, OP!

I wonder if there is a word for anti virtue signalling, the number of people loudly exclaiming they won’t do x,y,z because others are just virtue signalling.

I don’t do these sorts of things because they are things I don’t want to do. I couldn’t care less why others choose to do it.

First I’ve heard

Didn’t know there was one. I thought that’s what the minute silence at 12 was for?

What is this new fuckwittery??

Had a moment of silence at lunchtime but not doing the vigil.

I am sad at the 126 thousand deaths, but more than that angry that so many were avoidable had politicians not dithered or made gobsmackingly awful decisions.

I feel more like protesting on behalf of NHS staff who had poor PPE, or people with insecure jobs who just had to keep turning up for work (no furlough) than joining a vigil.

@MintyMabel

I cannot abide all the virtue signalling that goes on around these rather pointless rituals. Stand your ground, OP!

I wonder if there is a word for anti virtue signalling, the number of people loudly exclaiming they won’t do x,y,z because others are just virtue signalling.

I don’t do these sorts of things because they are things I don’t want to do. I couldn’t care less why others choose to do it.

Isn't the entire point of virtue signalling to get selfies of yourself whilst you polish your halo on social media.

I understand where you're coming from, my only neighbours who took part in the doorstep clapping last year where the ones who seemingly couldn't stick to lockdown rules.

Entirely up to you OP. Let your neighbours' tongues wag.

These silences are political anyway. We only have the remembrance day one because John major's government was in trouble so he reintroduced it to catch Sun voters, as the sun was running a campaign to reinstate it at the time (mid 90s). Blair carried it on firstly because he didn't dare go against the red tops and then latterly as a way of tangentially glorifying his own warmongering. It was also Blair who started having silences for other reasons : the first was I think for princess Diana a few months after he got in. Again an attempt to shore up popularity eg how can you vote against someone who is such man of the people that he honours the people's princess.

And the personal has always been political.

No idea this was happening. I'll be in work at 8pm. Guess that makes me unpatriotic or something

it can fuck right off, 1000's of people die every year of far worse cases and more tragic causes than covid.
take your clapping and virtue signalling and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
my mum died end of jan after a long illness maybe i should have put it out there to remember her, but noone would give a toss because she had covid but survived it only to die of something far worse.

I don't think anyone is being told they have to do anything.

If you want yo stand on the doorstep, light a candle, take a pause...that's ok

If you dont...that's ok too.

Starting a thread about 'not doing it' seems pretty much like a reverse virtue-signalling move to me. Who cares what you do or don't do? Why is important that mumsnet knows what an 'iconoclast' you are?

In the last year a lot of people died from other things which were not covid related. Are their deaths less important?

@multivac

Starting a thread about 'not doing it' seems pretty much like a reverse virtue-signalling move to me. Who cares what you do or don't do? Why is important that mumsnet knows what an 'iconoclast' you are?

We always have a thread to say someone is not doing it. Can’t break with tradition;

I guess it provides a point for discussion? Useful for a discussion board.

I want NHS and key workers to be appreciated - so I’ll vote for a government that will pay them properly

I'm not sure there are any parties that will do that.

It’s just virtue signalling ridiculousness. Just as bad as idiotic people banging pots and pans with spoons last year. It makes no difference to anyone, has no benefit and is quite frankly embarrassing.

@MrsTulipTattsyrup

I hate this sort of virtue signalling at the best of times, but I find this particularly objectionable because the deaths from COVID aren’t yet over. Are the people who die today, tomorrow, next week, next month not equally worthy of mourning?

Save it for when we are past this and we can, if the country decides to, erect a national memorial to all the victims - not just those who have neatly died before the arbitrary one-year anniversary of a lockdown which came too late and was therefore one of the reasons that there are so many names to remember.

The thing is, it’s not just those who have already died of Covid, is it? What about the thousands of other people (and probably thousands more to come) who died because of Covid, like my dh. Or maybe it should be due to Medical Negligence, with Covid being the excuse why he didn’t receive the treatment he needed?

I hadn't heard of it, but your neighbours sound like mine, OP. All rainbows and thank yous in the window, and daily visits from multiple family members and friends continuing throughout. I don't give a tiny shit if they disapprove of me not turning out.