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To have stopped MIL looking after DS (keeps forcing him on swings)?

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Swoonforpeterbishop · 17/03/2021 14:00

Changed my name for this as family are on here and even if they guess this is me, I don't want to rest of my posts outed :)

DS is 14 months old. He has never liked the swings in the park, he's not a fan of slides or anything either, he prefers exploring and wandering about.

We've tried him on the swings often to see if it was a phase, but he really gets upset and almost panicky, and wriggles/writhes until we set him down again. We've left him be as we don't want to make a big thing of it.

MIL knows this. She usually looks after DS two mornings a week so I can work. My work has dried up due to Covid so we don't need her to do this workwise anymore, but she asked if she still could as she loves seeing DS, so of course we said yes. (she's in our bubble, as he was under 1 on the 2nd december)

Last week a friend called me and tentatively mentioned she'd seen MIL at the park and MIL was 'forcing' DS on the swing and slide. When I asked what she meant she said she repeatedly kept trying to sit him in the swing even though he was really fighting her and crying, and kept sitting him on the slide (holding on to him) and (gently) pushing him down it, again while he tried to get off. Friend said she told MIL he doesn't like it and MIL said 'he has to get used to it, all children like the park!'. Friend said MIL wasn't being rough with him or anything like that, but kept persisting when he obviously didn't want to and was trying to get off, cling to her so he wouldn't be put on the play stuff, so she wasn't hurting him physically to be clear.

I was really upset by this, it's obviously not the first time and we've tried to not make it a big thing as I don't want him to be scared of the park full stop and I'm pretty sure when he's a bit older he will be more interested in them.

I spoke to MIL about it and she said she does 'try' him on the equipment every time because it's not normal for him not to enjoy anything at the park, and that all the other grandkids love it. FWIW he does like the park but he likes to run about and walk in the castle or touch the random wooden climbing logs/interact with other kids.

I explained to her we had told her not to do that and it doesn't mean he's not normal and she started saying how his behaviour is 'strange' and there's something off about him and we need to force him into situations or he will always run away from things he's scared of. And that there's no reason for him to be scared of park equipment.

She just wouldn't accept we don't want her to keep trying or see that she was upsetting DS. I trust my friend, she was really embarrassed about calling up to tell me, and MIL admitted he gets upset sometimes but gets over it quickly.

Anyway, I'm livid about the whole thing and said he won't be going to her for a while. If she doesn't listen to that, what else won't she listen to? I hate the idea of DS being upset and repeatedly put in situations he doesn't like or upset him and it's so unnecessary - so what if he doesn't like the play park equipment?! It doesn't matter!

DH thinks I'm massively overeacting and has said he will have a word with her and they just won't go to the park anymore, but I want DS to have a break from going to her. He's said he'll support my decision btw, but he does think I'm overreacting.

AIBU to react like this?

OP posts:
WeeFae · 17/03/2021 16:08

My DS hated the swings and stuff at the park too, it turned out he had bad 3D vision and it made him feel sick. She really needs to stop!

DismantleMe · 17/03/2021 16:09

That would be the end of unsupervised contact for me. The fact your friend not only approached your MIL at the time, to then feel the need to raise it with you afterwards indicates what she saw must have made her really uncomfortable.

saraclara · 17/03/2021 16:16

Swings are supposed to be fun. You don't encourage a child to have fun by terrifying them so that they dread even being near the things.

She needs that simple logic repeated and repeated to her until she's sick of hearing it.

Justanticipating · 17/03/2021 16:17

@thenonsensepotter

Try and force her into a swing or down a slide and see if she enjoys it. Maybe tell her you think there must be something wrong with her if she asks you to stop.
This really made me laugh! haha
saraclara · 17/03/2021 16:18

@DismantleMe

That would be the end of unsupervised contact for me. The fact your friend not only approached your MIL at the time, to then feel the need to raise it with you afterwards indicates what she saw must have made her really uncomfortable.
Yes. People don't tell you this sort of thing unless what they've seen is truly disturbing. Your DH needs to recognise that.
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/03/2021 16:19

it's not normal for him not to enjoy anything at the park, and that all the other grandkids love it
^ this
we had told her not to do that and it doesn't mean he's not normal and she started saying how his behaviour is 'strange' and there's something off about him and we need to force him into situations or he will always run away from things he's scared of
^ and this
She just wouldn't accept we don't want her to keep trying or see that she was upsetting DS
^ and this

It's about more than the swings.
This whole business about him not being normal in comparison to the other grandchildren is just offensive. Don't let her enter him into the Grandchildren Olympics.
You can't trust her to follow your wishes and that wouldn't be so bad if it was just tying his shoe laces the wrong way, but its actively forcing him to the point of distress to prove that she can "make" him do something that you haven't managed to.
I wouldn't let her look after him either, let him learn at his own pace without being coerced into it.
The second issue is refusing to see that she has done anything wrong and ignoring your repeated requests even after friends were shocked enough to ring you up and tell you about it.
I don't think you should let your DH deal with this or she will keep overriding your wishes until told not to by the man of the family. Where does that leave you. Why should he have more sway with her than you? Is that going to make you trust her more?
In addition, your DH says he will support you but says at the same time that you are "massively over reacting" so his request is likely to be lukewarm.
Your MIL should accept your word and if she doesn't, then she won't accept it over other things in the future. I think you should take a firm stand here.
This is your child and you need to defend your right to decide what is best for him.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/03/2021 16:21

@saraclara

Swings are supposed to be fun. You don't encourage a child to have fun by terrifying them so that they dread even being near the things.

She needs that simple logic repeated and repeated to her until she's sick of hearing it.

Exactly!
raincamepouringdown · 17/03/2021 16:24

@otterbaby

"his behaviour is 'strange' and there's something off about him"

Wow, this says it all. Definitely not overreacting.

I would be livid and she wouldn't be alone with my child after that for quite some time.
diddl · 17/03/2021 16:24

@otterbaby

"his behaviour is 'strange' and there's something off about him"

Wow, this says it all. Definitely not overreacting.

I didn't mind slides, but if you couldn't just walk up the steps an go down the slide, then no thanks!

Swings ok but not to high!

Roundabouts-fuck me, no thanks!

Your MIL sounds ratherstrange & nasty.

littleredberries · 17/03/2021 16:27

He's only 14m! WTF is wrong with your mil?!

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 17/03/2021 16:28

we need to force him into situations or he will always run away from things he's scared of.

He's 14 months old! He should not be forced into anything unnecessary at this age!!!!! Play should be fun!

She needs to seriously get a grip! I would be absolutely livid!

She doesnt have to agree with you but if she is minding your child she sticks to your rules!!!!!

Marshmellowx3 · 17/03/2021 16:30

This is where people need to back the fuck off with what they think is normal or not normal. Each child is an individual, with their own likes and dislikes, just like, adults are!

My partner and his mum do this sometimes about my 16 month old. Oh she should be doing this by now/she should like this/why is she afraid of such and such and it really pisses me off. Just leave them be!

And OP, my little one is also, shock horror, not a fan of swings. She cries when we put her in one and I have just left it for now. I would be very unimpressed if my MIL or anyone for that matter allowed her to get upset to the point a friend of mine saw it and felt they had to step in. It is also the fact you have mentioned it before, I hate it when people think they know better than you about your own child.

SabrinaMorningstar · 17/03/2021 16:38

I think YABU to say she can't see DS. Your DH's compromise seems fine. I'd be wary of your friend who not only felt the need to interfere with MIL when she was in the park but then to report back to you to cause trouble.
There are different views on how you acclimatise DCs to events/activities/toys. Considering you say that you trust MIL, I would trust that she wasn't overly upsetting DS but was just trying to see if he'd changed his mind yet.
And I say all this as someone whose DS didn't like swings so I understand how unsettled they can be. But I think the relationship with MIL and with your DH is important too and there's no need to stop MIL seeing your DS.

mummywithhermini · 17/03/2021 16:45

She is giving you free childcare. You'd be better off paying for care .

FunnyWonder · 17/03/2021 16:54

My eldest DS was a swing refuser when he was small. And he wasn't overly keen on slides either. We just learned to go with the flow. DS2's first proper 'sentence' was 'more slide' because he got such a thrill out of it. Children are all different and your MIL needs to respect this. It's cruel to force a child to do something they are clearly distressed about, even if you're not physically forcing them. The child will assume that their feelings are irrelevant or wrong. I think you're right to make an issue out of it.

SIL got a new car when DS1 was two. He absolutely loved cars and knew the names of different makes etc. There was a lot of fuss and excitement about bringing him out to see his auntie's new car. But DS didn't want to get into her car, not even to sit behind the steering wheel and pretend to drive. He was quite insistent that he didn't want to get in. MIL was there too and referred to him as weird and said he was being ridiculous. She kept trying to get him to climb in and got really shirty about his refusal to comply. DS was very upset, which just made MIL even more convinced that he was 'strange'. Anyone with half a brain would have tuned in to how distraught he was and just backed off. She had a similar reaction to his fear of the swings. Thankfully she couldn't be arsed to take him to the park by herself, so I didn't need to worry - I just had to endure the sighs and eye rolls when she suggested I put him in a swing and he refused.

ArnoJambonsBike · 17/03/2021 16:55

@mummywithhermini Where exactly does she say the MIL is giving her free childcare? Because I can read English fluently and I'm certain the OP said she doesn't need childcare and the MIL asked to look after the bairn.

Maybe it reads differently in your own language.

ktp100 · 17/03/2021 16:56

My child is exactly the same as this, intelligent and inquisitive and even now, at 7, he's not a fan of climbing etc.

Your child does NOT have to fit into your MIL's version of what a little boy is!!

I'm glad you are happy to stand up for him. Stick to your guns, OP. Who the fuck cares if a kid likes bloody swings?!!! It's all very weird and controlling. I wouldn't be sending my child there for a while either. She's clearly not putting the child first.

FunnyWonder · 17/03/2021 16:57

I meant to say 'cruel to coax a child ....' etc. I edited the sentence and didn't realise it no longer made sense.

PersianStar · 17/03/2021 17:00

My 13 month old absolutely hated the swing, so much so she managed to flip herself face first out of it in the 10 seconds neither of us were watching her.
She’s now nearly 2 and half and goes on it voluntarily but not not for very long and she soon lets us know she’s had enough.
We never made a big deal out of it, just out her in every time we went and if she fussed took her out again. Sometimes it was 30 seconds, sometimes 5 minutes
The slide, however... she’d happily climb the highest, steepest one by herself and leap 🤦🏼‍♀️ All children are different so I do t understand why your MIL is forcing it? Surely there are other things they can do at the park?

Easterbunnygettingready · 17/03/2021 17:02

Is mil being determined to 'cure' him of his fear??
Sounds like control.. My mil constantly took ds's toys off him. Kept offering him something of her choice... Every single time we saw her. Which was far too bloody much...
Her choice was a cork mug mat. Quite bizarre...
Stick to your guns op... In your shoes I would be inviting her to the park with ds.. Bet she keeps her ridiculous behaviour to herself then... Could she be nervous about him being free range in her care? She needs to say so. Send reins.

MeridianB · 17/03/2021 17:05

YADNBU OP

Your son cannot tell you what’s going on and your friend only saw on one occasion by chance. And who knows what else her approach will extend to. So you’re definitely not being petty. You’re protecting him.

NeedaLittleNap · 17/03/2021 17:12

YANBU, though I think it would be better to continue the visits (without the park) if you can still trust her.

Maybe take your friend round a bunch of flowers. It took guts to do that, she is a good friend and she probably felt she was risking the friendship by telling you.

ButtonMoonLoon · 17/03/2021 17:15

You’re definitely doing the right thing!
I’ve just seen that he has only been walking for a month, I think that’s significant here- developmentally being on a swing may well be a bit scary given he’s only just finding his feet - literally!
Trust your instincts.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 17/03/2021 17:15

I'd be wary of your friend who not only felt the need to interfere with MIL when she was in the park but then to report back to you to cause trouble.

Ehhhh? Wtf?

whatthedickens5 · 17/03/2021 17:16

Poor little one. As a baby and toddler I used to hate going on swings, slides, roundabouts etc (so I've been told). As a grew older it didn't change and even though I'm in my 40s now I still don't go on them. Turns out I suffer from very severe motion sickness and if I were to go on one I'd be disoriented, confused and violently ill for the next 24 hours. So she really should stop and not force him as he would not be able to convey to her if is in a similar position :-(

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