Would you want a job like this? (Part time, term time)

[AnonymousAuroch]

I'm tentatively thinking about taking on an employee but I keep going back and forth between thinking someone out there would love it or that no one would.

Job details:

3 hours per day, Mon-Fri, 9:30-12:30
£20 per hour (£1,200 per month)
4 weeks paid holiday per year but can take all of school holidays off unpaid if desired
Mostly admin but would need to pass background checks as would be handling sensitive info
Must be very good with both numbers and people (especially people!)
Potential to progress

I know it's a decent hourly rate but because it's only three hours a day it still only amounts to £1,200 per month, so I'm not sure if many people would want (or could afford) that. I need someone with qualifications too due to the nature of the business. Is it crazy to try to find someone for this? Or should I wait until I can take on a full time employee?

YABU: It's crap
YANBU: There's someone out there for you (maybe)

You seem a little out of touch with the world of work

Where in the country are you that people with few qualifications can earn £20 an hour, I suspect a lot of posters will be moving there.

I think you'll need to re-word the holiday bit, the person will get the statutory entitlement pro rata for their hours but you don't say it as 4 weeks

You’re paying too much, you don’t need to pay £40k FTE for an admin job. Once you’ve added NI and on costs, you’ll need to pay pension too it’s a lot of money. I would be looking at reducing to £15 per hour and look at the market. It’s silly practice to pay so much over and above a salary for such a job.

Wow ...what's not to like? 3 hours a day around school hours with school holidays not worked. excellent rate of pay for admin and people based work and no worries about looming school holidays. To be honest there are plenty of people who don't have childcare options who would take a much lower hourly rate. Plenty of office/people facing roles don't pay this rate and don't have such child friendly hours or freedom to be with their kids in school holidays. I always worked pt when dd was at school but I still had to work in school holidays. I would have loved an option like this.

Can I apply ??????

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Make sure the job description and person specification are explicit and specific to what you need - unambiguous minimum essentials and nice to have desirables that you'd hopefully be able to get because of the hours.

Strong advert with a needs xx qualification as a minimum in the first sentence and clarify just how flexible you're willing to be.

Happy to consider term time only
If you need someone in everyday, say upfront- x hours a week and core hours are between ×&y

Make sure that you know what flexibility you can legitimately offer before the queries and interviews ; and reiterate in contract.

100% yanbu votes

You’ll find someone no doubt

@eenymeenymineymo

you mentioned the part time hours working out at 28 days paid leave - is that not for a FT role & you will need to apportion the leave entitlement back based on the FTE of it all (my accountants brain talking here - you dont want to get this into a contract & then not be able to retract the leave clause) eg when I used to work 30 hours not 37.5, I had a 80% FTE role so any leave reflected this also I moved on to work in another role from this one here & when asked what my salary expectations were I gave them a $$ annual salary sum - expecting it to be apportioned back to my 30 hours per week - but no silly them. I ended up with a wonderful salary package over 4 days a week - so super nice for me, prob not so good for their cashflow.

Well no, they obviously are happy to pay it, you saying your expectation isn't something they have to agree to; the likelihood is that you usually sell yourself short rather than them paying you too much now.

@eenymeenymineymo, as the employee would be working five days a week, their annual leave entitlement would be 5.6 weeks per year. Their part time hours and pay would be reflected that for them, a day’s leave would be three hours off work and their pay for that day off would be £60 compared to a full time person who would, presumeably earn about £160 per day.

Yes me 100%. Fits perfectly with DDs preschool hours!! And good hourly rate!

I think people will snatch your hand off for that. Unless you are in London where the £20 an hour might be more of a standard wage.

I think you'll be bombarded with applicants. School hour jobs are rare, ones that pay a decent hourly sum even more so!

@EasterGuineaPig

Loads of people would love this! Where I worked previously we offered this kind of contract and we got some amazingly talented people, over and above what we were paying to be honest, because the flexibility and the hours were so attractive.

This is really what I want. I want someone amazing and loyal and kind and want to pay enough to attract that kind of person, even though it's only three hours a day. Despite being financial work, the person-facing aspect is the most important part of the business and I need someone that will basically be as invested as I am in keeping that going. That's why I really wasn't sure if it would be possible even though, yes, I know it's well above minimum wage!

This thread has really helped, thank you all so much. I still need to get so much sorted out (such as not understanding the paid leave allowance, as a PP pointed out above), so it will probably be some time before I'm able to hire someone. Ironically if I already had someone then it would be so much faster to sort out! 😂

You don’t need to advertise...just let us know which area you’re in..looks like you have a lot of people interested on here. Me included!

Where will you be advertising?!?

@flowerycurtain

Like someone else said I'd check what you promise before increasing the wage in line with hours. That's a heck of a salary to pay someone unless your business is v v profitable and stable. Once you have someone in that role they aren't going to leave without a fight.

Check your sick pay.

Check you give enough holiday

As a mum I'd jump at the chance. As a fellow business owner I think you're being slightly naive.

@flowerycurtain can you elaborate on this please? I'm almost certainly naive, I've never done this before and am happy to be schooled if it helps prevent me from making mistakes.

Too many posters to thank individually, so thank you everyone for the advice!

I’m wondering where you are based and where you are going to advertise the job. I would love to apply! I work a 34 hour week on minimum wage. I’d love to work 15 hours a week for a similar wage. As you will have realised from previous responses, you will have no problems filling your vacancy, thousands of parents would love a school hours only job.
your biggest problem will be sorting through the applications to find those with the desired qualifications As Opposed to those who are thinking it sounds like a fantastic opportunity so trying their luck applying When they don’t have a levels.

So, OP, are you going to give those on the thread the chance to apply?!

I’ll do it

[quote Nydj]@AnonymousAuroch, the 28 days paid leave is correct but that is 28 days of what would be their normal working days so only five working days a week which means they are entitled to 5.6 working weeks as leave in total.[/quote]
That's correct, but also that figure would include Bank Holidays (= eight days) so it works out to four weeks in top of that.

I earn minimum wage and manage on that so would happily work less hours for that pay!

@AlohaMolly

So, OP, are you going to give those on the thread the chance to apply?!

If anyone's in the Sussex area... keep an eye on the job boards in the next couple of months when I finally get everything sorted 😂😂 I wish I could make it happen sooner, but there's so much more to hiring an employee than just wishing I had one already 😂

Another one wondering where this is based ☺️ would be dream job/hours/pay and the potential to progress!

Jeez, I'd love a job like that. I've got a couple of degrees & never got a job that good. 😁

Even £15 an hour seems too high to me, I was helping a friend apply for a job recently, she has a number of years experience in payroll and the jobs were all around the equivalent of £12 an hour

I agree you are being naive to be offering more than a professional can earn for admin work

You don't really need to advertise holiday pay anyway as it's a statutory requirement. Have you considered who is going to do the HR and payroll function for the person, do you employ yourself?

It’s an amazing opportunity! I earn less than that for my term time only 4 day a week job! Would really appeal to parents with school age kids who want to work and earn ok ish money but also don’t want to pay for after school childcare etc. Plus the option to take all the school holidays off... you will be inundated!