To feed my 1 year old outside

[Dandylioness1]

My son is 13 months old.

I met my friend for a walk in the park this morning.

Her daughter is 2 years old.

We’d been walking a while and my son started to become unsettled and was asking for “boob boob”

I told my friend I’d stop at the next bench and let him have some milk.

She seemed mortified by this idea. She asked me if I could give him some water instead and that he was too old for me to be feeding him in public.

I told her I would be discreet about it but she said it was just about being discreet and that it’s also an issue that he’s 13 months and doesn’t need breastmilk, she said I should offer him water or a snack instead.

I ignored what she said I found a place to sit and let my son have some milk.

It’s made me feel pretty bad now and as a first time mum (who’s spent my sons first year in a global pandemic and lockdowns) i feel like I’m doing it all wrong. 🙁

AIBU to feed him on demand at this age?

@Wondermule you’re totally belittling the facts.

Going back to your ‘difference in obesity being negligible since it’s only 4%’:

640,370 babies are born every year according to ONS, if they all breastfed then extrapolating the numbers to the whole population if your negligible 4% were to become obese simple due to the feeding method (which has been agreed by both yourself and others) then that equates to 25,615 babies every single year obese due to feeding method.

Considering Diabetes U.K. quotes that 30% of obese adults have T2 diabetes which I’m sure you can agree is a tough thing for the body to cope with, that equates to 7684 people with diabetes that probably could have been avoided.

That is only one disease, that is only one example on how it is not insignificant. It is significant. Obesity is at crisis point in the U.K.

I’m almost certain that if you check every outcome of the BF is best jargon there’s real lives being saved, real people’s health better than it would have been.

For context: I BF, now I FF. I’m also obese, I was FF. I’m not being judgemental to FF people, it’s simply fact. It’s not negligible, we can’t pretend it is just to make people feel better.

Why do these debates always end up with someone going below the belt like this and resorting to ‘ner-ner-ner-ner-ner you’re more likely to die of cancer than me cos you didn’t breastfeed and I did’?

Truly disgusting.

She said the World Health Organisation state it. If you think it’s below the belt maybe pick that up with them?

And the irony of the obese lecturing everyone else about health benefits & breastfeeding 🤣

Obese and formula fed @FloconDeNeige please include the full context as I provided

@FloconDeNeige I don't think that was intended to be a low blow, i think that person was trying to give examples of what possible benefits there could be,

Again, I'm not sure why you are so angry on here, even if breastfeeding does have extraordinary benefits and the difference was a large number why on earth would this piss you off so much? If there is even a small chance that breastfeeding can protect you against some forms of cancers that's not a bad thing really is it?

@FloconDeNeige

Why do these debates always end up with someone going below the belt like this and resorting to ‘ner-ner-ner-ner-ner you’re more likely to die of cancer than me cos you didn’t breastfeed and I did’?

Truly disgusting.

Because it’s true.. I don’t understand why you don’t like to hear it. It doesn’t make it not true and being ‘nasty’ to people who do want to BF isn’t going to change the fact you are more likely to get those types of cancer.

You can project as much fury as you like, if it makes you feel better.

@FloconDeNeige

Why do these debates always end up with someone going below the belt like this and resorting to ‘ner-ner-ner-ner-ner you’re more likely to die of cancer than me cos you didn’t breastfeed and I did’?

Truly disgusting.

@FloconDeNeige

No one is resorting to that. It’s just stating facts.

The fact is that breastfeeding lowers your risk
of breast & ovarian cancer.
You can see for yourself, the information is available to read on the Cancer Research website.

Cancer Research (or anyone else) are not saying if you don’t breastfeed you will get cancer and die. They are saying, breastfeeding lowers your risk from certain cancers.

It explains reasons behind this too.

Take a look.

Have to wonder if that poster gets this angry every time they hear about risk factors for different types of cancer and how to mitigate them. Going up to the kiosk to buy a scratchcard then kicking it and walking away because they caught sight of the warning on a cigarette packet.

It does seem strange that a thread on a natural aspect of childcare gets 700 posts in 24 hrs.
The baby is 13 months, not a 7yr old at half time in a school football match.

It’s also true that at an individual level, there are zero benefits to the baby of breastfeeding

The problem with that statement is it’s just not true.

A much, much better way of mitigating your risk of cancer, is by not being obese. You can breastfeed all you like but if you’re obese it’s pissing in the wind.

@breadbinbaby

I’m sorry but it absolutely is true. I know you don’t like it, but there we are.

But that’s simply not true @FloconDeNeige those seven and a half thousand people are people, me and you. They’re not some elusive underground group. They fill the waiting rooms of the diabetes clinics and doctors surgeries every year to make sure they’re ok and their health is as good as possible.

I was referring to you poking fun at me simply stating facts because I shared the fact I’m obese

@FloconDeNeige you seriously do not believe there is ANY benefit to a child who is breastfed?

@FloconDeNeige

A much, much better way of mitigating your risk of cancer, is by not being obese. You can breastfeed all you like but if you’re obese it’s pissing in the wind.

Ah see, now we’re agreeing.

Yes to reduce obesity is good.. yes?

@FloconDeNeige

A much, much better way of mitigating your risk of cancer, is by not being obese. You can breastfeed all you like but if you’re obese it’s pissing in the wind.

The great thing is that you don’t have to pick one, you can do both. You can also not smoke, not go on sun beds and reduce your red meat intake. All of those things will lower, not eradicate, your risk of certain cancers.

@FloconDeNeige

It’s also true that at an individual level, there are zero benefits to the baby of breastfeeding

Perhaps you can show us some evidence for this?

I could find you plenty to show you that what you have said is incorrect.

[quote FloconDeNeige]@breadbinbaby

I’m sorry but it absolutely is true. I know you don’t like it, but there we are.[/quote]
Why do you think people like the World Health Organisation and the NHS would say it was beneficial if it wasn’t? Do you think they just want to annoy you?

Anyway, the OP has succeeded in setting up the bunfight, so bravo to you, OP! At least you got what you came for.

The rest of us will never see eye to eye on this and I guess it’s pointless even trying. I’m a pharmaceutical scientist with a PhD in chemistry and I’ve read many, many papers on this so randoms on an internet forum will not convince me that my reading of the body of available data is wrong (it isn’t).

That seems vanishingly unlikely.

We do agree on the outcome though @FloconDeNeige things like obesity need to be negated in as many ways possible because on an individual basis and population wide it’s inherently bad.

BFing is a clear way to do that to 4% of the population.

Of course I got called ‘deeply shitty’ for that comment as well.

It was, and remains, a deeply shitty comment.