To be angry at the frenzy caused by others last night

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I think it was utterly disrespectful. We are in lockdown and it was not the right time for a protest. I agree with a quiet, respectful, socially distanced space to grieve - which is what appeared to happen during the day.

Is there any actual evidence of spitting at this vigil?

I do not condone spitting but the police were far from blameless during the miners strike

@LexMitior

Is there any actual evidence of spitting at this vigil?

Well I haven't personally collected the specimens if that's what you mean.

Spitting? Most of them were in masks

This is looking even more like Hillsborough tactics.

@BonnieDundee

I do not condone spitting but the police were far from blameless during the miners strike

And many of them got assaulted.

@MercyBooth

Spitting? Most of them were in masks

This is looking even more like Hillsborough tactics.

No one said they were all spitting but I have definitely seen reports of officers being spat at.

I do not condone spitting but the police were far from blameless during the miners strike

And many of them got assaulted.

Many of them were doing the assaulting. I think from memory they were the first to attack. Although history was well and truly re-written on that.

Right well let’s see them because there have been enough posters claiming things which haven’t actually manifested as actual reports

@LexMitior

Right well let’s see them because there have been enough posters claiming things which haven’t actually manifested as actual reports

Myself and another poster shared links earlier of this - 26 assaults, including spitting.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-56394344

It's at the end of the article

There's also a statement to the same effect in here by Ken Marsh, chairman of the Met’s Police Federation.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-two-page-vigil-sarah-everard-scotland-yard-report-b924165.html%3famp

Again, towards the end of the article

Yes I see but unhappily the report of assaults (including spitting) comes from the Police Federation. I was hoping for a report that was a bit more independent than them.

Police Federation are not the people to ask really - they consistently ask for more powers for the police.

But for clarity, I don’t approve of spitting

@LexMitior

Yes I see but unhappily the report of assaults (including spitting) comes from the Police Federation. I was hoping for a report that was a bit more independent than them.

There's footage of other assaults on police (by men whilst women look on and chant / cheer), but I'm unsure if there's footage of the spitting.

@BonnieDundee

I do not condone spitting but the police were far from blameless during the miners strike

Understatement of the century. They were absolutely brutal during the Miners’ strike.

Obviously I wasn't everywhere, but I personally witnessed only one moment that could be interpreted as an assault on police, which was the attack by the four male anti-maskers (who were pulled off by the female protestors). I didn't witness anything else that I'd consider assault.

I'm very surprised by the 26 figure - especially in light of the police's baffling decision to not pursue arrests against the men engaged in violence, and their decision to leave, leaving only a skeleton police presence, while the vigil was still in progress.

I am going to wait for independent verification, and I'm also waiting for figures on how many women were assaulted or injured that evening.

There's footage of other assaults on police (by men whilst women look on and chant / cheer)
Well I wonder why the press are running that footage, and not the footage of female protestors fighting back against the violent men, defending the police from the violent men, trying to get the man with the loudhailer off the bandstand, comforting the women who'd been hurt, and protecting flowers from being trampled on by police.

In the past I was told on here to leave my violent ex and to call the police. I'm glad the police were there for me when I needed them. It's scary because the more hate they get, the less likely it is they can recruit and retain. Who saves the lives of women then?

I don't understand why working class, disabled, minority ethnic, and older women don't matter. These are the women dying from covid. They shouldn't be put at extra risk through large groups of people gathering. London is still behind the rest of the UK with the vaccine rollout.

police brutality

There was no police brutality. It's getting sickening now seeing this repeated over and over again. There are actually memes going round social media ATM saying this, with a photo of George Floyd next to this red haired woman as if the 2 things are in anyway comparable. George Floyd really was a victim of police brutality, the women at Clapham were not and they're starting to look pathetic. Also they seem to be under the delusion that they are part of some great historic battle against the Govt, as if it's the miners strike or something, it really isn't, its cringeworthy

An elderly woman was violently pushed. That didnt end well for Ian Tomlinson as i recall.

@Flaxmeadow We ARE at a big time in history. In a pandemic with a Police Bill being pushed through.

Ironically the reason Priti Patel is able to stand in the Commons as an elected politician is because of protests by women.

if the Police Bill had been enacted in Thatchers time every single protesting miner would’ve been jailed for 10 years

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I worked in police admin for a number of years. I only ever saw that sort of attitude from 1 or 2 very inexperienced officers. I remember a rape case where 2 prostitutes had been raped. A DCI overheard a younger officers making some stupid remarks about not believing them because they had no injuries. Let's just say it wasn't a pleasant experience for him and I doubt he ever said anything like that again.

I'm extremely, extremely surprised to read that.

Every single woman I know who's been raped or sexually assaulted or been a victim of domestic violence, which is a hell of a lot of women, has a horror story of being treated badly by police: told they were asking for it, told they'd be destroying a family if they took it to court, had police actively try to intercede to plead the husband's case for him, heard officers making crude jokes about them, or simply police refusing to do their jobs.

When I was sexually assaulted at 12 years old police quizzed me about why I was dressed so "provocatively" (I was asleep in my own bedroom in an empty house) and refused to conduct any kind of physical exam, take DNA, or even take a statement. This happened on two separate occasions. I was later told the police couldn't investigate since there was no statement from me and no physical evidence - because they refused to take any.