To think the porn culture has a lot to do with societal misogyny?

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And due to the millions of pounds made from this industry, it won't be curbed or restricted by the powers that be? It seems blatantly obvious to me that young teenage boys/men/deviants viewing readily available and mostly violent porn promotes objectifying and disrespect for women.

Of course it does. It has a hell of a lot of answer for in society. Misogyny is absolutely rife and porn is a fucking scourge.

Young males expectancies - choking, gagging being the norm etc., and young females thinking this is what's expected of them.

Horrid.

Didn't pornhub just have to delete 80% of its content as they couldn't tell whether the women and GIRLS in the videos were unconscious, being raped etc.

But as long as men and some women can have a wank over it, it's alright.

Absolutely agree. So glad I don't have daughters. The expectations placed upon them because of this constant exposure to hard core pornography is horrendous. Its a terrible time to be growing up female.

Yes, I do. I read recently that most teenaged boys get their sex knowledge from watching porn. It horrifies me that young men are "learning" from porn that this is how sex should be. And young girls too - growing up with this as an example of what they should be doing to please men. Just the thought of this makes me despair.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/pornography-world-anti-porn-feminist-censorship-misogyny

"The accusation levied towards anti-porn feminists is that while we are wasting time focusing on images of people having consensual sex, the battle for equality is hindered. But there are real women in pornography and, whether the violence is acted out or real, the message is that brutality equals sexual pleasure, and in a world in which rape is commonplace, this is a harmful message.

Rather than look for a direct causal link between viewing porn and sexual violence, we should be looking at the culture of misogyny that porn arises from and contributes to. Ending misogyny will end violence against women. It is Dines’ view that the world would be a better place without porn. I agree."

This was written years ago and I think things are worse now for women than ever.

Totally agree. It's all a warped version of reality and kids believe what they see on the internet

From a frighteningly young age, children are now viewing violent porn & this is shaping their understanding of what a sexual relationship should be; believing males have the right to do whatever they want to a female’s body. Young boys play video games where they can rape women. It’s an absolute travesty & a ticking time bomb.

So, what's the answer? Its something I believe strongly that should be changed but feel helpless to make a difference!

Yes, although I suspect societal misogyny has been around a lot longer than porn

What’s the answer? Strict regulation of the porn & gaming industry so that content depicting violence against women is removed & carries severe sentences to those caught viewing & distributing it. Not going to happen I’m afraid...

Definitely. Before the proliferation of Pornography there was hardly any misogyny in society.

I'm sure porn isn't helpful but blaming it for misogyny is very wide of the mark imo.

I disagree - but only in as much as I think it's an expression of the misogyny that already exists. So it doesn't cause it but probably a big factor in perpetuating it in the younger generations of men.

Wholeheartedly agree.
This needs to be addressed.
The fact anyone can view porn, anywhere, anytime, that doesn’t reflect real life, it’s toxic and dangerous.
And the links to porn and paedophile rings with supposedly ‘normal’ men being found with indecent child images. I’ve no idea how but tighter censorship must be possible somehow.

Of course misogyny predates violent pornography & removing it wouldn’t eradicate male violence from our society. However, the widespread demand for it belies the view that a tiny minority of men gain sexual pleasure from the demeaning of women. The fact that it is considered relatively socially acceptable I find very worrying & yes, I do believe it is damaging to young, impressionable minds.

@Purplesunflowers

From a frighteningly young age, children are now viewing violent porn & this is shaping their understanding of what a sexual relationship should be; believing males have the right to do whatever they want to a female’s body. Young boys play video games where they can rape women. It’s an absolute travesty & a ticking time bomb.

Im pretty certain that in at least one game (GTA?) there was the ability to kill prostitutes whom your character had had sex with/raped.

Yes, absolutely. Just read the culture reframed website. The research is there.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/27/grand-theft-auto-v-prostitutes-killed

Misogyny is as old as time but online porn has really ramped it up a notch. It's like training men to actively see women as subhuman.

@MarshmallowAra
Exactly & many primary-aged children play this game. It would (rightly) be completely unacceptable to have a video game which depicted lynching or child sexual exploitation. Violence against women is unfortunately not taken as seriously.

Misogyny started thousands of years ago. Porn is a symptom of it, not the cause.

100 % agree OP.

@FrankButchersDickieBow

Of course it does. It has a hell of a lot of answer for in society. Misogyny is absolutely rife and porn is a fucking scourge.

Young males expectancies - choking, gagging being the norm etc., and young females thinking this is what's expected of them.

Horrid.

Didn't pornhub just have to delete 80% of its content as they couldn't tell whether the women and GIRLS in the videos were unconscious, being raped etc.

But as long as men and some women can have a wank over it, it's alright.

I remember seeing about the deletion on Twitter when it was announced. The number of men saying that it didn't matter because they'd already saved a copy of their favourites was awful. No consideration of the fact that if their favourite video was deleted it might be rape/ revenge porn/ child abuse. They clearly didn't consider the women and children to be people, just objects there for their entertainment.

It is a problem in schools - asking your sons if they are decent. Then ask your daughters about boys if they are at a mixed school.

Like these threads, you will get two different answers!

Porn didn't create misogyny, but there is a juggernaut of misogyny out there right now and porn is feeding into that. Porn tells men, that women are no more than sex dolls. I have noticed young men being more brazen in sexual staring at women in recent years. Do young men now have a fantasy that women are going to be up for it in a minute of meeting, as in porn videos?
Let's get very real. There were 500,000 men found viewing child pornography in the UK, according to the documentary, 'Catching a Paedophile' on channel 4. Do you think this bodes well for the next generation?

@Purplesunflowers

Of course misogyny predates violent pornography & removing it wouldn’t eradicate male violence from our society. However, the widespread demand for it belies the view that a tiny minority of men gain sexual pleasure from the demeaning of women. The fact that it is considered relatively socially acceptable I find very worrying & yes, I do believe it is damaging to young, impressionable minds.

When I was growing up, what little porn I saw on sky etc was vaginal sex, oral sex (mostly fellatio) and v rarely anal sex.

The actors looked like they were supposed to be consenting and enjoying it.

Mainstream porn is now choking, gagging, deep throat gagging, women in extremely uncomfortable prone positions, buttock and breast hard slapping, face slapping, hair pulling, and endless anal.

Anal features prominently, it used to be something mostly associated with male gay sex. And let's face it - how many women truly really enjoy and want to have anal sex?? It's also more likely to.cause damage, more likely to contract STDs, and more likely to cause long-term continence faecal issues .. and it's the women who are facing that.