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"A very uninspiring woman"

175 replies

forinborin · 09/03/2021 10:09

So, I was called just that, in the context that hardly would make me want to go and interrogate the person who said that further (it was a communication mistake, I was never expected to see it).

English is my second language and I am not yet perfectly fluent. I mean, I know the dictionary definition, but curious about (British) cultural nuances too. If you were to think about another woman as "uninspiring", what would you mean, in simpler terms? Mumsy? Plain looking? Domesticated? Unintelligent? Poor conversationalist? Unambitious? Anything else?

I mean, I am probably all of the above, and it is so hard to choose - but I need to decide how exactly offended should I be Grin

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picklemewalnuts · 09/03/2021 11:13

Unexciting, possibly dull/boring.

However it's not at all something I'd say about a person, unless I'd been forced to sit through a lengthy presentation from them- not the factual, shared information type but the actually supposed to be inspirational type!

It certainly says more about her than about you. I'd stop with any effort you were making for that person.

DoLallyTapMum · 09/03/2021 11:13

It does depend a little on what your job is. In education (my sector) ‘uninspiring’ would refer to not being inspirational enough to get pupils and staff to believe in you and themselves and to succeed in your classroom/school. It would basically mean you were dull, staid and followed the protocols but had no spark or individuality.

MyLittleOrangutan · 09/03/2021 11:14

I'd think boring, not interesting to talk to, not someone you could have in depth conversations with or that challenged you in any way.

I'd think far worse of a person that would call another person uninspiring, unless perhaps in the context of going through applications for a job.

forinborin · 09/03/2021 11:15

@whatcangowrong

To be more positive OP, from the limited insight into you one can get from your posts, I don't find you uninspiring. I think you're curious, good humoured, and reflective. You haven't made it personal, you haven't slagged off the writer of the email, you haven't taken it too much to heart. You've instead looked to see what you can learn from the experience, whether there is something about you that would justify such a mean remark. It doesn't sound as though you're in a field that requires you to be a firecracker, rather you sound good at what you do. I would just crack on as you are, but stay curious and keep trying to learn. :-)
Thanks! I mean, a lot of things said resonated with me. I am an introvert, very analytical, not very socially outgoing, but I can see how that could also be taken as dull and aloof.
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MessAllOver · 09/03/2021 11:15

In a personal or semi-professional context, I would interpret being called "uninspiring" as meaning that I hadn't gelled with the person who called me that and that they had, slightly egocentrically, interpreted this as meaning that I was the sort of person with whom no one would gel because they hadn't managed it rather than acknowledging that it was just a personality clash.

In a professional context, it is slightly more difficult to work out. It could mean that you are sound but unexciting. You do your work fine but lack the charisma to inspire people so are better suited to back office than representing your employer publicly. When I worked for a large company, I would probably have been in this category. It could also mean that you are unreliable, lazy and not up to the job. When I led internal projects, if I had described the prospect of working with junior team members as being "uninspiring", this is probably what I would have meant.

OldRailer · 09/03/2021 11:16

Are you looking to be a candidate for a political party? Then it might have bearing.

Otherwise it reads as snidey because it's a put down but a very general or even lazy one. It would cover a lot of ground and could be easily rowed back on as "just a feeling I get" " just my personal take" as it means so little in concrete terms.

Unless you want to lead some sort of campaign where being inspirational and having charisma is key!

apalledandshocked · 09/03/2021 11:16

Its a wierd kind of insult to give, because it implies that they think that you SHOULD be inspiring to them if that makes sense? Its a very odd sense of entitlement to have, I mean I might single out one person I work with as being inspiring (because of what they have achieved/their motivating personality etc) but I would never complain that everone else I work with is uninspiring because well, its not their main focus to be an inspirational example to me.
So I do think it says more about the insulter rather than the insultee. To really know what they meant you would have to find out what they do consider inspiring and assume they meant the opposite. But I wouldnt want to waste the mental energy on that TBH.

OldRailer · 09/03/2021 11:17

It reads as being judgemental without discernment.

Not reliable as feedback.

forinborin · 09/03/2021 11:17

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

I am sure a lot of the grey suit brigade who run our country are deeply uninspiring. And what of the person who said it? Exactly how inspiring are they, OP?
Actually in this case yes, quite inspiring (as much as it pains me to say this Grin). A social butterfly type, with a lot of spinning plates.
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MessAllOver · 09/03/2021 11:20

Do you find the person who said it inspiring, OP? Finding someone inspiring is a matter of personal taste.

I find a lot of "inspiring" people deeply exhausting, for instance, but I'm prepared to accept that's my issue, not theirs Grin.

picklemewalnuts · 09/03/2021 11:21

@whatcangowrong

To be more positive OP, from the limited insight into you one can get from your posts, I don't find you uninspiring. I think you're curious, good humoured, and reflective. You haven't made it personal, you haven't slagged off the writer of the email, you haven't taken it too much to heart. You've instead looked to see what you can learn from the experience, whether there is something about you that would justify such a mean remark. It doesn't sound as though you're in a field that requires you to be a firecracker, rather you sound good at what you do. I would just crack on as you are, but stay curious and keep trying to learn. :-)
To second what can go wrong, you also have excellent written language skills and are a good communicator.

I think your ex colleague is dazzled by their own brilliance.

forinborin · 09/03/2021 11:21

Unless you want to lead some sort of campaign where being inspirational and having charisma is key!
You have just described one of my biggest nightmares (along with TED talks mentioned earlier). Grin

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apalledandshocked · 09/03/2021 11:23

In that case I would assume that they meant you were not like them in that way, or that you didnt share the personality trait they are most proud of in themselves. So if they were to say "I consider myself to be inspiring because I am X/do Y" they probably meant that you are uninspiring because you are not X and dont do Y. Figure out what they like most about themselves and you will know what they meant. I really, really wouldnt worry about it if I was you though.
I would also think that framing their criticisim in that way makes them a bit self centered.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 09/03/2021 11:24

Well, sometimes people can bring out one's inspiring side (or not). It's not at all a helpful thing for her to have said but I would take it with a pinch of salt. You could be very inspiring with other people. Who is she to decide whether you are or not. I would not be inspired by someone who makes such unconstructive remarks!

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 09/03/2021 11:25

Some people find it hard sometimes to see the value in personality types that don't chime with their own. And by 'some people' I mean anyone who isn't a clever business leader. It's a bit of a classic mistake - only hiring/valuing/promoting people that are like you and one that so so many businesses make.
It says much much more about the person writing it than it does about you. What it tells me is that they do not see the value is slow analysis, they do not see the value in diversity and they do not see the value in any communication style that isn't their own. They are a workplace problem.

crazylikechocolate · 09/03/2021 11:27

It can mean different things in different situations .
Someone who is uninspiring to one person might be inspiring to another
For example someone who was top of there profession yet dull as ditchwater to anyone other than another person interested in that profession might be described as uninspiring , yet someone who is only mediocre yet brimming with enthusiasm for a given subject that another person is interested in would be inspiring

forinborin · 09/03/2021 11:28

@DoLallyTapMum

It does depend a little on what your job is. In education (my sector) ‘uninspiring’ would refer to not being inspirational enough to get pupils and staff to believe in you and themselves and to succeed in your classroom/school. It would basically mean you were dull, staid and followed the protocols but had no spark or individuality.
Yes, I can see that, and certainly had teachers in my own life that I'd class as "uninspiring" in that sense. I do have some responsibilities that could be described as "educational", but I usually get very positive feedback from attendees (but then, I am also teaching very boring stuff!)
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lljkk · 09/03/2021 11:28

You could play with them. Make them squirm.

I'm not very creative about that but I can find a petty streak inside myself. Maybe reply needs to be something like.

"Oh but Who WERE you talking about?! Please tell. I love to share bitchy gossip too you know." And cc in several people who they might have bitched about instead -- making sure they are the types who would make uproar if if they knew it was comment about them.

DrIrisFenby · 09/03/2021 11:28

I have to say that I was really surprised to see that it was you posting this @forinborin. You wrote several comments on a thread I have been reading recently which I thought were measured, insightful, intelligent. Uninspiring is not a word I'd used based on my admittedly little knowledge of you from here.

So I think it really says a lot more about the person that said it. I have come across several loud, extrovert characters via work who were very quick to dismiss us quieter types. Their loss ... 🤷🏼‍♀️

Chalk it up to experience and don't let it get to you. (But don't go out of your way to help them if they need a favour in the future Grin)

Eckhart · 09/03/2021 11:33

I wouldn't be offended at all, unless you are trying to inspire this particular person?

Inspiration is in the eye of the beholder. They are not able to feel inspired by you. It's probably mutual, and you find them to be a thumping bore.

ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2021 11:36

I'd think the speaker was a bit of a wanker to say it out loud, and the sort of person that gets bored easily (which I always think a reflection on them and not on their surroundings).

ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2021 11:37

(The speaker being the person who made the statement, not you, OP.)

Iamthewombat · 09/03/2021 11:38

I’m reading it as ‘boring’.

Why do you care? If you seldom see these people, and if you don’t think that you are boring, so what? You can’t expect everyone to think that you are marvellous.

For everyone suggesting that the OP ‘tells HR’: did you read that she wasn’t supposed to see the email in which the ‘uninspiring woman’ comment featured? Whatever you think of the former colleagues, they can express whatever opinions they choose. Would you welcome all of your emails being read by ‘HR’ in case you might cause offence to somebody?

Labobo · 09/03/2021 11:38

I would take it to mean someone with low energy who is never enthusiastic about new ideas, who never activates or contributes and who drains the energy in the room when they do speak (eg goes on about something that has already been discussed).
It's a horrible thing to hear, but if it's true and you didn't know it, it could help you review how you come across (if that is useful to you.)

Ploughingthrough · 09/03/2021 11:38

I think it would mean boring, lacking in ideas, not somebody that you would want to be like. As such it's pretty insulting and I'm sorry somebody said that about you.