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Team Meghan or Team Windsor?

999 replies

QueenofTheCandles · 08/03/2021 10:13

Yes - Team Meghan

No - Team Windsor

Nothing - Don’t really care!

OP posts:
ancientgran · 08/03/2021 19:41

@StillCoughingandLaughing

Even Margaret got divorced. I wonder what she made of it all. Actually thinking about her and her family her children have never been made a prince or princess have they? Can't remember their names but I think her daughter was a very pretty bridesmaid for Diana. I think she was known as Lady something but not sure about the son.

Only male-line grandchildren of the sovereign are entitled to the title of Prince or Princess. Margaret’s children don’t qualify, and neither does Archie, as he’s a great-grandchild. William’s children didn’t automatically qualify for the same reason, but because they will be male-line grandchildren of a sovereign once Charles is King, the Queen made them princes and princesses via letters patent.

That's interesting. What about Edward's children?
Member869894 · 08/03/2021 19:41

I wish theyd asked her about her family

feellikeanalien · 08/03/2021 19:42

In relation to Andrew, as Rousette said, things may well be very different once Ghislaine Maxwell's trial starts. I also think there may be an element of not wanting to prejudice any possible legal action against PA.

If lawyers acting for PA could argue that there had been so much public debate that he was unable to get a fair trial then it could cause the trial to collapse.

I could be totally wrong of course and it could just be that the press is being "encouraged" not to focus on PA.

RaspberryCoulis · 08/03/2021 19:42

@Member869894

I wish theyd asked her about her family
But that wasn't part of the deal. The deal was for Meghan to put her side of the story about the Royals.

Not to be asked anything which might make Meghan look less than perfect.

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 19:43

@Dugee

There is a tradition between the royal family and British media. Megan and Harry aren't following that tradition, they are forging their own way (their choice and nothing wrong with that choice, but they will have to live with the consequences of that choice). The tradition is that certain things will be leaked in exchange for other things being kept quiet, Megan and Harry have opted out of this, so as far as the press are concerned its open season on Megan and Harry

No, they are not following tradition as they have left the Royal Family. It’s quite clear they wanted to do things there own way, as the traditional way wasn’t working for them. However, I do not believe that Meghan in particular was ever afforded this ‘traditional’ arrangement by the British Press. It has always been open season on Meghan, the negative stories about her began pretty quickly. She also stated in her interview that ‘the firm’ were ‘perpetuating falsehoods’ and that there is ‘a lot that’s been lost already’ so it seems her priority was not about protecting those privileges because they never existed for her in the first place. There are many that will believe she is lying, but it is a reasonable conclusion to arrive at. But once again, the question remains, is the hatred and negativity warranted? I’m not sure it is...

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 19:46

[quote Jangirl2018]@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

I’m sorry, I was agreeing with the part about it working in terms of the focus being on H&M. Don’t get jealous Wink[/quote]
So what has made you change your opinion?

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 19:47

@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

I haven’t changed my opinion about anything

CocoPark · 08/03/2021 19:49

Team Windsor. M&H are acting like trash.

Andrew is an absolute shocker, obviously.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 19:49

[quote Jangirl2018]@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

I haven’t changed my opinion about anything[/quote]
Your previous comments are there for all to see.

Is it just that you misunderstood my original comment?

nitsandwormsdodger · 08/03/2021 19:51

Hate the "team"crap
Lessons can be learnt both sides
Don't think they are lying but there are two sides and all that

Airing dirty laundry hardly helps

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 19:53

@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

Your previous comments are there for all to see. Is it just that you misunderstood my original comment?

That’s ok, i’m not going to get arrested for my comments, so not arsed about who reads what. Perhaps I misunderstood you, I really can’t recall what you said and i’m not bothered at this point, but it’s clear you feel aggrieved. I’m sorry for that. I bid you farewell, i’m off to enjoy the rest of my evening.

Dugee · 08/03/2021 19:54

I also think there may be an element of not wanting to prejudice any possible legal action against PA. If lawyers acting for PA could argue that there had been so much public debate that he was unable to get a fair trial then it could cause the trial to collapse.

Yes, agreed. This is also likely to be part of the reason for the press silence.

I think the severity of the accusations are unprecedented for a senior royal (I maybe wrong but I can't think of any), so it's plausible that the press are also nervous about covering it.

Dugee · 08/03/2021 19:56

I'm cynical and think that some higher up media types are probably on the fringes of the whole disgusting affair and are all too happy to let sleeping dogs lie.

This could well be part of the media silence on Prince Andrew too.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 19:57

@SunlessSea

WTAF are you on about?
,
Piers Morgan loathes MM so no idea how you tie that in with me? Hmm

I presume you are one of the many NCers that come on these threads to insult other posters.

Mittens030869 · 08/03/2021 19:57

We’ve heard one side of the story not the other and I suspect that side B also have aspects that don’t add up. There is their truth, the palace’s truth and the real truth- something which we will never fully know.

^This in spades.

LegAndSparkle · 08/03/2021 19:57

Obviously they're all nauseating.

But, in defence of Andrew at least he opened himself up for a proper grilling on Newsnight not just a saccharine puff piece by a fake celeb mate.

StatisticallyChallenged · 08/03/2021 19:57

@ancientgran Edward's kids are technically entitled to be HRH and Prince/Princess but they chose not to use it - they're styled as the kids of an Earl would be I think.

wewillmeetagain · 08/03/2021 20:02

When you're falling out with people left right and centre, at what point do you start to think the problem might not be them???

Roussette · 08/03/2021 20:06

But, in defence of Andrew at least he opened himself up for a proper grilling on Newsnight not just a saccharine puff piece by a fake celeb mate

Hahaha... he chose to have this interview to sweep the whole thing under the carpet.
He honestly thought that would be the end of it.
His arrogance was absolutely astounding.
He pontificated, exaggerated, waffled and lied.
It didn't go away because it was a carcrash interview and it opened up more q's than it answered.

Oh... and... when pushed he would not say he regretted the friendship with his paedophile friend who had procured, groomed and assaulted hundreds of young girls.

And he did this all on his own....

Dugee · 08/03/2021 20:06

[quote Jangirl2018]@Dugee

There is a tradition between the royal family and British media. Megan and Harry aren't following that tradition, they are forging their own way (their choice and nothing wrong with that choice, but they will have to live with the consequences of that choice). The tradition is that certain things will be leaked in exchange for other things being kept quiet, Megan and Harry have opted out of this, so as far as the press are concerned its open season on Megan and Harry

No, they are not following tradition as they have left the Royal Family. It’s quite clear they wanted to do things there own way, as the traditional way wasn’t working for them. However, I do not believe that Meghan in particular was ever afforded this ‘traditional’ arrangement by the British Press. It has always been open season on Meghan, the negative stories about her began pretty quickly. She also stated in her interview that ‘the firm’ were ‘perpetuating falsehoods’ and that there is ‘a lot that’s been lost already’ so it seems her priority was not about protecting those privileges because they never existed for her in the first place. There are many that will believe she is lying, but it is a reasonable conclusion to arrive at. But once again, the question remains, is the hatred and negativity warranted? I’m not sure it is...[/quote]
I'm not claiming that the negativity is warranted, in terms of what Megan and Harry have actually done (they left the royal family and went to live in the US, that's all really). However, they do seem to be ignoring the royal tradition of turning a blind eye to press reports, getting visibly angry and fighting back. The press are loving this, as it's going to run and run.

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DrSbaitso · 08/03/2021 20:06

@LegAndSparkle

Obviously they're all nauseating.

But, in defence of Andrew at least he opened himself up for a proper grilling on Newsnight not just a saccharine puff piece by a fake celeb mate.

Oprah is a fake celeb?

And in defence of Andrew, as if he's the better person here?

Reinventinganna · 08/03/2021 20:06

Team couldn’t give a shit

LegAndSparkle · 08/03/2021 20:06

When you're falling out with people left right and centre, at what point do you start to think the problem might not be them???

The woman is totally devoid of any self reflection.

Reinventinganna · 08/03/2021 20:07

‘In defence of Andrew’.... he’s a peodophile isn’t he?

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