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Team Meghan or Team Windsor?

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QueenofTheCandles · 08/03/2021 10:13

Yes - Team Meghan

No - Team Windsor

Nothing - Don’t really care!

OP posts:
OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 18:53

@Roussette

The palace have a sophisticated PR machine that is well experienced in dealing with the British press. The marginalisation of Prince Andrew is a calculated tactic to deflect attention from what he has been accused of doing. It seems to be working

^^ This
It is very convenient that MM came along really

Another one.
Dugee · 08/03/2021 18:55

[quote Jangirl2018]**@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

I’m sorry, I was agreeing with the part about it working in terms of the focus being on H&M. Don’t get jealous Wink[/quote]
I agree with @OliviaBensonsEyebrow points. I was just expanding on what she/he said.

Frubecube · 08/03/2021 18:57

I like how they made a point to say the Queen had been welcoming, and clarified it wasn't her or Phil that made the comment about Archie. I really like the queen, not arsed on the rest- so team Liz and wish H&M the best.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 18:57

Even Margaret got divorced. I wonder what she made of it all. Actually thinking about her and her family her children have never been made a prince or princess have they? Can't remember their names but I think her daughter was a very pretty bridesmaid for Diana. I think she was known as Lady something but not sure about the son.

Only male-line grandchildren of the sovereign are entitled to the title of Prince or Princess. Margaret’s children don’t qualify, and neither does Archie, as he’s a great-grandchild. William’s children didn’t automatically qualify for the same reason, but because they will be male-line grandchildren of a sovereign once Charles is King, the Queen made them princes and princesses via letters patent.

PersimmonTree · 08/03/2021 18:58

@StillCoughingandLaughing.

Yes but it's basically a football thread, "Team Meghan/Team Windsor" so you're obviously going to get football answers.

Team Windsor have committed many red-card offences, scored multiple own goals and the management is blatantly corrupt, so shouldn't they be disqualified and kicked out of the game?

FolkSongSweet · 08/03/2021 18:59

@icdtap

I'm Team Palace despite being a republican. Personally I think the monarchy should be abolished when the Queen dies. I have no idea why Meghan and Harry are still courting all this attention when they said they wanted privacy. They wanted to move to LA and not be working royals.... bye then! They got what they wanted. What is the problem? They need to stop preaching to us about things too, like the environment, while living in their mansion.

I can well believe that someone in the RF made the racist comment about baby Archie. However, the colour of Archie's skin was not the reason he was not given the title Prince. The rules about who is or isn't a Prince or Princess are laid down in the Royal Protocols.
Meghan must know this. I am sure someone has explained this to her at some point. I know this and I'm some random pleb from Newcastle.
If Harry or Charles did not explain this then they were very remiss.
If she knew this, then she is deliberately deceiving people by implying that Archie was not given the title Prince because of his skin colour. That is very manipulative and makes it more difficult for people to believe anything else she says.

Agree with every word of this.
StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 19:00

@RubyViolet

If William was to abdicate, as it stands Harry is in line to be Regent if Prince George is under 18. royalcentral.co.uk/uk/will-harry-and-meghans-decision-lead-to-a-new-regency-act-135996/

If William is named as the person Harry is inferring made the comments about his future child then he really could be pressurised to stand down.
If George became King before turning 18 then as it stands Harry becomes Regent and rules in his place until he comes of age.

Not a chance. He’s not working for a PR firm!
TheLumpySofaCushion · 08/03/2021 19:03

@Cowgran

Team middle ground.

Boring I know. But am a big believer in that there are 3 sides to every story. Side A, side B and the truth.

@Cowgran - I've always wondered about this saying. Does it mean that no one could ever actually be telling the truth?

Unsure33 · 08/03/2021 19:03

@littlepattilou

Also on the face of it it not America more of a racist country ? Go there because the press are on their side but because of racism ? It does not add up .

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 19:03

More likely that the press / royal correspondents know that if they focus on PA they'll lose any goodwill, meaning the press leave PA alone for the most part.

Whether they don't get any reaction or lose goodwill, the result is the same, the press aren't writing about PA. Which is what the royal family want. My point still stands, by sidelining PA the RF are signalling to the press that they don't want PA to be written about.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 19:04

If William abdicates does that take his offspring out of the succession?

No - in the same way that the child of a Roman Catholic can keep their place in the line of succession, as long as they aren’t a Roman Catholic.

There is precedence for this - the daughters of James II both became monarchs, despite his ‘abdication’ (actually fleeing the country because parliament were getting ready to force him out).

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 08/03/2021 19:05

Neither ,always like to hear 2 sides to a story or see evidence before making a full judgement

littlepattilou · 08/03/2021 19:05

[quote Unsure33]@littlepattilou

Also on the face of it it not America more of a racist country ? Go there because the press are on their side but because of racism ? It does not add up .[/quote]
This! ^ Good point!

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 19:05

@Dugee

I agree with @OliviaBensonsEyebrow points. I was just expanding on what she/he said

That’s wonderful. I was agreeing with what you said, (unless I misunderstood) about the calculated tactic designed to keep the focus off of PA. It is indeed working.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 08/03/2021 19:05

@MeanMrMustardSeed

I think Harry is the only member of the royal family I have seen in a nazi uniform.

This too. I knew this was offensive when I was 12. No excuse.

She probably doesn't even know about this. But we all forgave him because he was just 'poor Harry'
Closetbeanmuncher · 08/03/2021 19:08

Agreed @DaisyHeadMaisey

Livelovebehappy · 08/03/2021 19:15

Team Windsor. Always.

DemolitionBarbie · 08/03/2021 19:24

The royals think they're God's appointed representative on earth or something. i.e better than everyone else. Saying they're racist is missing the point, they literally believe they are better than the rest of us.

LikeWaterForSoup · 08/03/2021 19:30

Then the moment we landed in the UK, I got a message from my private secretary at the time

Explaining the terminology, Meghan said: 'A private secretary is sort of like a CEO role in the institution.'

Poor poor rich people. Having to explain to the commoners what a private secretary is so they can follow the sob story. Grin

Any form of racism, any discrimination against a person based on their skin colour is wrong and should have no place in any work place or institution.

However, a woe is me feature on Oprah is not the way to challenge institutional racism. It's populist bullshit and Meghan comes across as super contrived in the clips that have already been shown. But that is miles better than Harry, he just comes across as a naive rich white man child. Whinging that daddy isn't paying for his lifestyle any longer.

Maybe, now that being independent seems a bit like hard work, they want to force daddy's hand by signalling that if he doesn't pay up and give little Archie and his sister some lovely royal titles, they will reveal that it was x, y, or z who said something racist about master Archie.

Dugee · 08/03/2021 19:30

[quote Jangirl2018]@Dugee

I agree with @OliviaBensonsEyebrow points. I was just expanding on what she/he said

That’s wonderful. I was agreeing with what you said, (unless I misunderstood) about the calculated tactic designed to keep the focus off of PA. It is indeed working.[/quote]
I was supporting the comments made by others, stating that Prince Andrew had been deliberately marginalised so that the media don't write about him, whereas Megan and Harry are no longer part of the royal PR machine and seem to be deliberately generating their own media activity (against what seems to be RF PR guidance).

There is a tradition between the royal family and British media. Megan and Harry aren't following that tradition, they are forging their own way (their choice and nothing wrong with that choice, but they will have to live with the consequences of that choice). The tradition is that certain things will be leaked in exchange for other things being kept quiet, Megan and Harry have opted out of this, so as far as the press are concerned its open season on Megan and Harry.

There is nothing right about the media ignoring Prince Andrew but that is how the palace - press relationship appears to work.

Dugee · 08/03/2021 19:33

[quote Unsure33]@rousette have you actually read that whole article you are quoting from because he is actually defending women’s rights ? I am not defending the wording but it should not be taken out of context .[/quote]
Yes, certain parts of that article seem to be often taken out of context.

SunlessSea · 08/03/2021 19:33

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SunlessSea · 08/03/2021 19:34

Disguise

Impatiens · 08/03/2021 19:39

In 10 years or so the two kids are going to wonder why they don't have any contact with their GFs or aunts/uncles. It's sad.

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 19:39

@StillCoughingandLaughing

If William abdicates does that take his offspring out of the succession?

No - in the same way that the child of a Roman Catholic can keep their place in the line of succession, as long as they aren’t a Roman Catholic.

There is precedence for this - the daughters of James II both became monarchs, despite his ‘abdication’ (actually fleeing the country because parliament were getting ready to force him out).

Can they marry Catholics yet? I always thought that was insulting, Prince Charles could have married virtually anyone as long as they weren't Catholic so that ruled me out.