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Team Meghan or Team Windsor?

999 replies

QueenofTheCandles · 08/03/2021 10:13

Yes - Team Meghan

No - Team Windsor

Nothing - Don’t really care!

OP posts:
Roussette · 08/03/2021 17:51

Charles, this is my feeling, won’t rule for as long as the Queen

Bear in mind he is 72, I would've thought it's a physical impossibility! Grin

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 17:53

@RubyViolet It’s an interesting twist.
If you follow the possibility that it is William that has upset Harry and he can prove it.
Charles, this is my feeling, won’t rule for as long as the Queen. Therefore if William was made to abdicate over this incident the odds are quite high for George to need a Regent. It would be Harry.

George is nearly 8 isn't he, honestly ten years will flash by. The Queen might still be going then never mind Charles.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 17:54

So why even make such a statement in response to my post? Think really hard about what you are implying with your words. I am very logical, actually so your insult is irrelevant, i’m sorry you had to resort to it. Perhaps if you think really hard, you may be able to come up with a reason why you felt the need do make excuses for Prince Andrew.

But I didn't make excuses for Prince Andrew, you just imagined that. Other posters understood my point - the press are ignoring Andrew because he has sloped off and is keeping a low profile but the press are covering H&M because they continue to court the media. That isn't defending Andrew, it's explaining why he isn't in the media as much as M&H.

Unless you think that interviewing with Oprah and signing deals with Netflix and Spotify isn't courting the media?

Which part of my comment do you believe is defending Andrew?

LolaSmiles · 08/03/2021 17:55

Fair enough. It is rather frustrating though... when there is news about PA, it gets little traction on here
I would agree with you on this.

The thing is he is clearly deploying a strategy of hide away, keep out the limelight and don't draw attention to yourself. Between that and the media being selectively useless on the investigative journalism front, Andrew stuff doesn't tend to make headlines. It should though. If stuff doesn't make the headlines, fewer people form an opinion, fewer people with an opinion means fewer threads.

Whilst I think the Andrew affair is disgusting, he's clearly following a well-advised media strategy.

Harry and Meghan seem to be leaving the net wide open for criticism and at times are shooting at their own goal.

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 17:55

@Roussette

Charles, this is my feeling, won’t rule for as long as the Queen

Bear in mind he is 72, I would've thought it's a physical impossibility! Grin

Well that made me laugh so I'm off now on a merry note.
SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 08/03/2021 17:56

I hope that gets sorted for your family ancientgran I really do.

It must be putting your sons, you and the rest of the family under strain and in an almost impossible position. Flowers

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 18:01

That's my no.1 on the checklist of why we don't need to talk about Andrew!

I'll explain for you again.

Andrew is hiding away therefore the press don't feel the need to write about him, possibly because they know they won't get a reaction.

Megan and Harry seem to be courting publicity, the press write about them because they know that they will get a reaction.

I didn't say that we don't need to talk about Andrew, I said that's why the press don't write about Andrew.

Is that clearer?

Moresugar · 08/03/2021 18:02

Both harry and meghan seem breathtakingly naive to me. But how can that be? They've been in the world much more than I have, in terms of dealing with people and publicity etc. I must be missing something.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 18:05

I'll explain for you again

No need. I got it the first time. Your analysis of it, that is...

And as I have just explained even when there is news there is little appetite for it on here.
Hope that's clear for you too lol

PersimmonTree · 08/03/2021 18:06

What to do about "Prince" Andrew? Remove all FOI privileges and treat him like the lowlife he is.

The royals' FOI exemption and self-imposed medieval privilege has everything to do with Harry and Meghan. Why? Because the royals have a licence to LIE, which equates to zero credibility.

If M&H had to go through the patriarchal pantomime 2 years ago to bring down this house of thieves and liars because we're all too spineless to do it, then I say well done to them (but please go away and be happy quietly).

StatisticallyChallenged · 08/03/2021 18:06

[quote ancientgran]**@RubyViolet* It’s an interesting twist.*
If you follow the possibility that it is William that has upset Harry and he can prove it.
Charles, this is my feeling, won’t rule for as long as the Queen. Therefore if William was made to abdicate over this incident the odds are quite high for George to need a Regent. It would be Harry.

George is nearly 8 isn't he, honestly ten years will flash by. The Queen might still be going then never mind Charles.[/quote]
It might not be Harry

The 1937 act requires UK domicile for the regent. There's also a precedent for it not being the next in line - when the queen came to the throne Charles was still a child. There was a recency act passed specifically to cover what would happen if a regency was needed - and the regent was Prince Philip, not Princess Margaret.

With no amendments and a non domiciled Harry the next in line would be...Andrew. I'd imagine some thought is being given to this just in case (not because of any imminent abdication risk!)

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 18:08

No need. I got it the first time. Your analysis of it, that is...

Based on your comment, you didn't. It had to be explained to you by other posters.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 08/03/2021 18:10

I'm Team 'Who the hell cares'.

Why would we? They're a family who have no bearing on anything or anyone other than themselves.

As a reminder, the Queen signed the Tories and all their nonsense into being recently, despite being fully aware that they were lying.

What's the point? Let the old couple pass away quietly and let's have no more of this ridiculous time-wasting and stressing about an elitist system that should have been long gone.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 18:11

No.

You're the only one banging on about this with me.

Look forward to seeing you in the summer on a thread when Ghislaine Maxwell does a plea deal and drops our Andy in the shit.

Arrowheart · 08/03/2021 18:11

The 'be kind' mantra is dead and buried.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 18:13

I do think Chocolate covid has highlighted the RF's relevance is waning.
We've barely noticed they're not around

SleepingBeaver · 08/03/2021 18:14

Get Emily Maitlis to interview them. Then a different story might come out.

Team Windsor.

For a couple who want privacy they go about it in an odd way.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 18:16

@Roussette

No. You're the only one banging on about this with me.

Look forward to seeing you in the summer on a thread when Ghislaine Maxwell does a plea deal and drops our Andy in the shit.

You're really reading too much into my comments.

I was explaining why I thought the media aren't writing about Andrew but are writing about Megan and Harry. That's all. I didn't say it was wrong or right (unless you can point to where I did say it was wrong or right?).

I thought another poster had explained my point in more simple terms for you but your subsequent posts show that you are still struggling to grasp it.

mainsfed · 08/03/2021 18:20

@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

Andrew is hiding away therefore the press don't feel the need to write about him, possibly because they know they won't get a reaction.

Bullshit. Ghislaine was hiding, it didn't stop the press writing about her.

The RF and the press have a symbiotic relationship.

RubyViolet · 08/03/2021 18:21

the next in line would be...Andrew
😳
I bet the Regency conversation is going to be happening really fast now !
I know it’s all hypothetical but ..... Wow !

Roussette · 08/03/2021 18:21

For the third time, I will repeat... seems to me you're the one not getting it.....
I. Get. It.

Hope that's simple enough for you too

Won't stop me talking about PA though.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 18:23

The RF and the press have a symbiotic relationship

Yes. My post earlier on this thread illustrated that. The RF wine and dine the press pack so they don't write nasty things about them. It is a relationship of fear and dependence.

mainsfed · 08/03/2021 18:25

@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

I was explaining why I thought the media aren't writing about Andrew but are writing about Megan and Harry. That's all. I didn't say it was wrong or right (unless you can point to where I did say it was wrong or right?).

There seems to be tacit acceptance for PA in your posts, in the way you describe Harry and Meghan as 'baiting' the media versus Andrew keeping a low profile.

mainsfed · 08/03/2021 18:28

@Roussette

The RF and the press have a symbiotic relationship

Yes. My post earlier on this thread illustrated that. The RF wine and dine the press pack so they don't write nasty things about them. It is a relationship of fear and dependence.

Absolutely.
derxa · 08/03/2021 18:28

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