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Team Meghan or Team Windsor?

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QueenofTheCandles · 08/03/2021 10:13

Yes - Team Meghan

No - Team Windsor

Nothing - Don’t really care!

OP posts:
Dentistlakes · 08/03/2021 16:58

Neither. I think they are both at fault in their own ways.

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 16:58

@RubyViolet

Any constitutional experts here ? I have scrolled through wiki and can’t see a clear answer.

If William abdicates does that take his offspring out of the succession ?

Well if it does it will be a shock to all the people who have been saying for years that Charles should step aside so the son of the sainted Diana can be king sooner.
mainsfed · 08/03/2021 16:58

Well, we'll start with the fact that she's accused our entire country of being racist and announced it to the world when in actual fact she was welcomed with open arms. Hope you're less confused now

The hurt feelings of those accused of racism is always more important than those of the people who have experienced the racism.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 16:59

@ancientgran
Good measured post

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 17:01

@mainsfed

Well, we'll start with the fact that she's accused our entire country of being racist and announced it to the world when in actual fact she was welcomed with open arms. Hope you're less confused now

The hurt feelings of those accused of racism is always more important than those of the people who have experienced the racism.

Being wrongly accused of racism is bound to be hurtful. Obviously a different matter if they have been racist. I'll never forgive the girls who were racist to my DD when she was at school.
Wondermule · 08/03/2021 17:02

Neither. I dislike Harry and Meghan but I also disagree with having a hereditary monarchy.

RubyViolet · 08/03/2021 17:04

If William was to abdicate, as it stands Harry is in line to be Regent if Prince George is under 18.
royalcentral.co.uk/uk/will-harry-and-meghans-decision-lead-to-a-new-regency-act-135996/

If William is named as the person Harry is inferring made the comments about his future child then he really could be pressurised to stand down.
If George became King before turning 18 then as it stands Harry becomes Regent and rules in his place until he comes of age.

MindfullWWer · 08/03/2021 17:06

I'm team Windsor. I reckon there is sibling rivalry between Wills & Has, that was there long before Meghan. I think Meghan is self serving and spoilt and wanted what Kate was entitled to, regardless of royal protocols. And pointed out the unfairness, in her eyes, to not being treated equally to Harry. She thought she was going to be a Disney Princess. Harry was just desperate for "someone" to marry him, so hoodwinked her a bit. I also think Harry has been very immature and impulsive, there is no doubt Meghan is beautiful and a strong woman, but I don't think he was as up front and honest about "real" royal life and the outcome of that was Meghan's poor mental health. Harry should take responsibility for that, rather that trying to publicly humiliate and blackmail his family, so they bend over and pay for his security, to silence him. I wish them and their children a happy life ....away from the bloody cameras please!!!!!

PersimmonTree · 08/03/2021 17:06

@icdtap

There's been a lot of talk over the years about Charles possibly abdicating and it has always been said that in that case, William would be next in line. No passing of the throne to Charles' revolting brother, thank goodness.

So presumably if William was forced to abdicate because of a racist comment, the next in line is George.
Won't happen though...

And yes, I agree with others. Prince Andrew is absolutely disgusting and I don't know why there hasn't been the same outrage about him.

Probably because Meghan is right. The UK establishment at heart is a nest of racist vipers only interested in preserving its vile institutions and covering up for shameless paedos.

Shall we grow a collective spine and campaign to get the whole lot of them out?

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 17:08

@ancientgran

Did you miss the condemnation and derision for Andrew when he did a TV interview. You can't keep flogging a dead horse, how many times do you want that dragged up?

First of all calm down. Secondly, the allegations against him (Prince Andrew) are extremely serious, yet the coverage of him and the hate directed to him is no where near on the same level as Meghan and you can pretend not to notice, but that would be extremely disingenuous. Not to mention, he is still living on the taxpayers dime, if that was Meghan, no doubt you would want her flung in jail yesterday.

The fact that you refer to him being linked to a convicted peodophile, as well a numerous unsavoury allegations against him, which is very unbecoming as a member of the Royal Family as ‘flogging a dead horse’ and asking ‘how many times do you want that dragged up’ as if it is insignificant, tells me all I need to know about you.

the80sweregreat · 08/03/2021 17:08

Nice thread ancient gran. Well put.

Ocsetldil · 08/03/2021 17:09

I hope Charles and William are having detailed discussions today about dismantling the Monarchy and the entire Royal Family. All royal titles (Windsor, Wales, Gloucester etc) go. Zap. Overnight. The aristocracy can keep theirs as they are not so involved (yes I know, the Spencers etc etc) but Charles and his offspring become Mr & Mrs Mountbatten and that’s the end of it. They can keep their private houses (Sandringham, Balmoral), Buck Pal, St James’, KP, Holyrood are turned over to the the State, they become farmers and never give an interview again. There is a permanent injunction so they never appear in the gossip rags again.

LApprentiSorcier · 08/03/2021 17:09

If William abdicates does that take his offspring out of the succession ?

The short answer - it would depend on the terms of the abdication.

Any abdication requires an Act of Parliament. The terms of the abdication including what happened to that 'line' would form part of the wording of the Act.

It's not a given that William's offspring would be removed. The only other King to abdicate in recent times, Edward VIII, had no children so isn't really a comparison. His abdication removed any notional future children he might have from the line, but removing children who don't yet exist is rather a different thing from removing existing children whom the public have been used to thinking of as heirs. This was very hypothetical in EVIII's case - Wallis was 40 at the time her abdicated so the chance of her bearing him children wasn't very high.

Bunnyfuller · 08/03/2021 17:12

The press not worshipping M does not make them racist. M is not disliked for her ethnicity. She’s disliked because of how she constantly behaves.

Racist memes are horrific, as are any memes attacking someone or something on prejudiced and vile grounds. Memes unfortunately for us all exist everywhere. I’m not sure even where they started, I’m too old really. But the memes don’t speak for the whole populace. You are allowed to disagree with someone or how they behave, regardless of any characteristics, or you always were. And having a characteristic (I’m fat and ginger and disabled so fit several boxes) doesn’t mean no one can be horrible to me. Maybe owning her behaviour would be a better step than saying ‘it’s because I’m ....’

I would still like to see one link to something in the press that is racist about her, I don’t read newspapers but get all my news online.

Oh, and we’re an ethnic minority too. So I know what racist sounds like.

RubyViolet · 08/03/2021 17:13

@LApprentiSorcier

If William abdicates does that take his offspring out of the succession ?

The short answer - it would depend on the terms of the abdication.

Any abdication requires an Act of Parliament. The terms of the abdication including what happened to that 'line' would form part of the wording of the Act.

It's not a given that William's offspring would be removed. The only other King to abdicate in recent times, Edward VIII, had no children so isn't really a comparison. His abdication removed any notional future children he might have from the line, but removing children who don't yet exist is rather a different thing from removing existing children whom the public have been used to thinking of as heirs. This was very hypothetical in EVIII's case - Wallis was 40 at the time her abdicated so the chance of her bearing him children wasn't very high.

The link l just posted is interesting. Harry becomes Regent if George succeeds before he is 18.

royalcentral.co.uk/uk/will-harry-and-meghans-decision-lead-to-a-new-regency-act-135996/

Shopliftersoftheworldunite · 08/03/2021 17:14

I am team Virginia Giuffre.

The Royal Family are a racist, outdated institution with no place in modern day Britain.

Harry and Meghan are vain, shallow and self-serving morons.

Prince Andrew needs investigating.

His mother needs stringing up for defending him.

LakieLady · 08/03/2021 17:15

@Quirrelsotherface

They've both sat on a world stage and said that the UK is a racist country. It's unforgivable. She breezed onto the scene with all the grace of a bull in a china shop and when she didn't get everything she wanted she threw her toys out of her pram. She has fallen out with every single member of her family apart from her mother (who she didn't live with growing up) and now, lo and behold, Harry has fallen out with his. A textbook narcissist who has now proclaimed she is a victim of racism and has been suicidal. Making it very difficult for anyone to criticize. It's manipulative and extremely dangerous behaviour.
Have a look at this and then tell us how the UK isn't a racist country:

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/race-report-statistics

And that's before we consider the comments sections of the DM, the increased tolerance of far-right groups like the EDL etc.

ancientgran · 08/03/2021 17:15

[quote Jangirl2018]@ancientgran

Did you miss the condemnation and derision for Andrew when he did a TV interview. You can't keep flogging a dead horse, how many times do you want that dragged up?

First of all calm down. Secondly, the allegations against him (Prince Andrew) are extremely serious, yet the coverage of him and the hate directed to him is no where near on the same level as Meghan and you can pretend not to notice, but that would be extremely disingenuous. Not to mention, he is still living on the taxpayers dime, if that was Meghan, no doubt you would want her flung in jail yesterday.

The fact that you refer to him being linked to a convicted peodophile, as well a numerous unsavoury allegations against him, which is very unbecoming as a member of the Royal Family as ‘flogging a dead horse’ and asking ‘how many times do you want that dragged up’ as if it is insignificant, tells me all I need to know about you.[/quote]
Why do I need to calm down? I think there are plenty on here who need that advice more than I do, or are you being ageist. I'm really offended.

The flogging a dead horse was referring to discussing his TV interview.

Just to be clear I have no interest in where Meghan gets her money from and you know nothing about me.

CharlotteRose90 · 08/03/2021 17:16

I hate them all but Meghan definitely deserves an Oscar for that performance. She is very good at playing the victim

thereisonlyoneofme · 08/03/2021 17:16

god this thread has somewhat derailed now talking about abdication

SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 08/03/2021 17:16

But they hate the firm and so he would not be interested in Prince regent surely?

Unless of course the pecking order played a part of his dislike?

Jangirl2018 · 08/03/2021 17:18

@Bunnyfuller

She’s disliked because of how she constantly behaves

How does she constantly behave?

DrSbaitso · 08/03/2021 17:21

Astonishing how many people agree that the press have treated her like dirt but don't think it's affected their perception of her.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 17:21

Secondly, the allegations against him (Prince Andrew) are extremely serious, yet the coverage of him and the hate directed to him is no where near on the same level as Meghan and you can pretend not to notice, but that would be extremely disingenuous. Not to mention, he is still living on the taxpayers dime, if that was Meghan, no doubt you would want her flung in jail yesterday.

Andrew has slopes off and kept a low profiles. Megan and Harry keep baiting the media.

Roussette · 08/03/2021 17:27

Great!

That's my no.1 on the checklist of why we don't need to talk about Andrew!

There are 4. I listed them above.