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Team Meghan or Team Windsor?

999 replies

QueenofTheCandles · 08/03/2021 10:13

Yes - Team Meghan

No - Team Windsor

Nothing - Don’t really care!

OP posts:
DrSbaitso · 08/03/2021 15:22

Oh come on, Harry got his arse handed to him when he dressed up as a Nazi. The bigger question is why Prince William, who was at the party too, didn't ask him what the hell he was doing. Or why these people were having a "colonials and natives" (!!!!) themed party in the first place.

LolaSmiles · 08/03/2021 15:23

Tell us more about the right and proper way to respond to institutional racism
Not go moaning about the fact that when you quit your job (and are already independently wealthy) your meanie dad stops funding your lifestyle.

Get yourselves out of a toxic environment & make a success of your life with the skills you have instead of trying to use the very institution that is harmful to you to brand yourselves as a mover and shaker celebrity couple, and then complaining when you aren't allowed to keep the same perks you had as before you left.

Friends 'leaking' information, books that they apparently didn't know anything about, privacy claims but not privacy, acting like it's unfair that Uk taxpayers won't fund your security bill, going on Oprah to talk about whether it was you or your sister in law who cried and so on doesn't tackle institutional racism.

mainsfed · 08/03/2021 15:24

@LikeWaterForSoup

I rather think that the word whining is very fitting when they complain about not receiving tax payers money to fund their luxury lifestyle

Source?

DrSbaitso · 08/03/2021 15:25

@LolaSmiles

Tell us more about the right and proper way to respond to institutional racism Not go moaning about the fact that when you quit your job (and are already independently wealthy) your meanie dad stops funding your lifestyle.

Get yourselves out of a toxic environment & make a success of your life with the skills you have instead of trying to use the very institution that is harmful to you to brand yourselves as a mover and shaker celebrity couple, and then complaining when you aren't allowed to keep the same perks you had as before you left.

Friends 'leaking' information, books that they apparently didn't know anything about, privacy claims but not privacy, acting like it's unfair that Uk taxpayers won't fund your security bill, going on Oprah to talk about whether it was you or your sister in law who cried and so on doesn't tackle institutional racism.

So when you are the subject of a vicious, racist press campaign, you put yourself in the wrong by speaking out about why you left the country and the job, and what happened when you did?
WouldstrokeTomHardy · 08/03/2021 15:25

Get a grip ffs

Ihatefish · 08/03/2021 15:25

@sst1234

This gets more ridiculous by the minute. A statement every day to say who didn’t make the baby skin colour comment until the big reveal. Why not go straight to the lie detector. They missed a trick when they chose Oprah for the interview, maybe Jerry Springer was busy that day.
There’s only two ways for this to go, cutting into a cake with the culprits name hidden inside or Harry opening a box of balloons that will spell out the baddy’s name -all revealed on you tube.
carcarbinks · 08/03/2021 15:31

Maybe we could organise a national sweepstake with the culprit announced by Harry and Megan in a TV special.

LolaSmiles · 08/03/2021 15:34

So when you are the subject of a vicious, racist press campaign, you put yourself in the wrong by speaking out about why you left the country and the job, and what happened when you did?
If you spoke in detail about institutional racism then fine.

If it's 'I stopped being a senior royal and it's so mean that nobody funds my security bill', 'when I chose to leave life in the royal family, my dad stopped funding me' then no. Leave the pity party and move on. They both need the interviews to market themselves.

If your average mumsnetter wrote a post that said:
My family are racists and have been awful about my new wife for being mixed race so I've gone low contact with them then they'd rightly get a huge amount of support for putting distance between them and a toxic and racist family.

If further into the thread they said:
and another thing, when I went low contact my Dad decided to stop giving me handouts so I've had to look for work to gain sympathy then they'd be rightly told that they are an adult who should support their family without Daddy bankrolling them, especially if Dad is part of the toxic culture that caused them to go low contact.

If someone posted:
I left my job because the culture was institutionally racist and I was bullied to the point it affected my mental health then they would rightly get huge amounts of support because it's evident the company allowed racism.
If part way through the thread they said:
and to make matters worse, once I left my job I was no longer able to live rent free in a company property and the company have stopped paying for my company car, and they've taken my travel allowance off me then they would rightly be told that however bad the company is, the conpany doesn't have to fund the expenses of someone who no longer works there.

DrSbaitso · 08/03/2021 15:36

@LolaSmiles

So when you are the subject of a vicious, racist press campaign, you put yourself in the wrong by speaking out about why you left the country and the job, and what happened when you did? If you spoke in detail about institutional racism then fine.

If it's 'I stopped being a senior royal and it's so mean that nobody funds my security bill', 'when I chose to leave life in the royal family, my dad stopped funding me' then no. Leave the pity party and move on. They both need the interviews to market themselves.

If your average mumsnetter wrote a post that said:
My family are racists and have been awful about my new wife for being mixed race so I've gone low contact with them then they'd rightly get a huge amount of support for putting distance between them and a toxic and racist family.

If further into the thread they said:
and another thing, when I went low contact my Dad decided to stop giving me handouts so I've had to look for work to gain sympathy then they'd be rightly told that they are an adult who should support their family without Daddy bankrolling them, especially if Dad is part of the toxic culture that caused them to go low contact.

If someone posted:
I left my job because the culture was institutionally racist and I was bullied to the point it affected my mental health then they would rightly get huge amounts of support because it's evident the company allowed racism.
If part way through the thread they said:
and to make matters worse, once I left my job I was no longer able to live rent free in a company property and the company have stopped paying for my company car, and they've taken my travel allowance off me then they would rightly be told that however bad the company is, the conpany doesn't have to fund the expenses of someone who no longer works there.

This is a lot of talking about money and conditions and financial independence, and really nothing about the racism.
SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 08/03/2021 15:38

Maybe we could organise a national sweepstake with the culprit announced by Harry and Megan in a TV special.

They should have written it into Unforgotten and then it wouldn’t have been postponed.

mainsfed · 08/03/2021 15:38

He said: "all I needed was enough money to be able to pay for security to keep my family safe.' "

What's wrong with that? He's justifying why he did deal with Netflix.

FuckyouBrennan · 08/03/2021 15:38

@mainsfed I’m not mixed race? Sorry, what? If you care so much, have a look at my previous posts where I discuss racist comments I’ve had about my children and their futures.

I wasn’t insinuating he be “booted out” I was saying that, WHEN HE ASKED TO LEAVE, they should’ve sent him on his merry way with zero fuss.
But you continue to twist my posts. And question my race.

tobee · 08/03/2021 15:40

Sorry not read all the thread. But presumably there's going to be/has been a different reaction in the US press to the U.K. press? The US press being more sympathetic? That's where they live now after all.

PurpleCrocuses · 08/03/2021 15:44

The RF are utterly evil and corrupt and abusive.

Team anyone who exposes them as the bullying racists they are.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 08/03/2021 15:51

I really don’t think this saga paints the U.K. press and much of the public in a good light either. It’s actually quite shocking the coverage/vilification of Meghan verses Andy. One has had a fallout with her in laws and the other has been accused of abusing youngsters. Anyone looking from outside would say this is a pretty sick country. I’m embarrassed.

MuddyWalks · 08/03/2021 15:51

Windsor.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 15:54

@DrSbaitso

Oh come on, Harry got his arse handed to him when he dressed up as a Nazi. The bigger question is why Prince William, who was at the party too, didn't ask him what the hell he was doing. Or why these people were having a "colonials and natives" (!!!!) themed party in the first place.
The bigger question is why PW didn't question PH's choice to dress like a Nazi? Harry chose to dress like a Nazi, not William. How do you know William didn't question it? I don't think we know whether William questioned it or not but we do know that Harry chose to attend a party dressed in a Nazi uniform.
wewillmeetagain · 08/03/2021 15:55

Team Windsor, anyone who cannot see that it was a complete hatchet job is definitely short of a few brain cells.

Sprining · 08/03/2021 15:55

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

I really don’t think this saga paints the U.K. press and much of the public in a good light either. It’s actually quite shocking the coverage/vilification of Meghan verses Andy. One has had a fallout with her in laws and the other has been accused of abusing youngsters. Anyone looking from outside would say this is a pretty sick country. I’m embarrassed.
This.

And many MN reactions are unedifying. I never understood why we voted for brexit. But seeing the sickening views and the racialism and just plain vile views on a woman who has said that she feel unsupported and suicidal when pregnant, makes me realise that there many unhappy peoples out there who just want to tear others down

Roussette · 08/03/2021 15:56

Yes, and as I posted above from the interview... the RF are terrified of bad press, so they wine and dine the worst of them in BP, to make them write good things. 'Control by fear' Harry calls it. There is somthing very very wrong with this.

It cannot lead to a fair and open Royal Family
Toxic.
Awful
Well done MM for taking just one of them to court and winning.

Sprining · 08/03/2021 15:56

Sorry for typos

CandlesBlanketsandTea · 08/03/2021 15:56

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

I really don’t think this saga paints the U.K. press and much of the public in a good light either. It’s actually quite shocking the coverage/vilification of Meghan verses Andy. One has had a fallout with her in laws and the other has been accused of abusing youngsters. Anyone looking from outside would say this is a pretty sick country. I’m embarrassed.
I couldn't agree with this more. H&M are convenient scapegoats for Prince Andrew's friendship with a paedophile and Prince William's alleged affair.
1Morewineplease · 08/03/2021 15:57

Team " I'm not sure that we'll ever know what the Royals think, say or do behind closed doors."

LolaSmiles · 08/03/2021 15:57

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil
The whole thing is a joke and you're 100% right about the press.
The cynic in me wonders how many high profile people in media were on the fringes of Epstein's social network and probably have skeletons of their own.

Aside from that, Andrew seems to have gone into hiding since that interview he did and the press seem awfully keen to let sleeping dogs lie (which I disagree with).
Harry and Megan seem to have developed a 'look at us, no don't look at us, we want privacy, but we also want to court the media' strategy, which I think has probably backfired with the public. I don't think I'm alone in having feelings of ambivalence about the royals as an entityand think some of the British press are vile racists, but find my eyes rolling when hearing about how unfair it is that very wealthy couple might have to pay their own security, they only went with all these Netflix/Spotify deals because daddy cut the money off (it wasn't part of their plan apparently).

Roussette · 08/03/2021 15:58

Sprining I agree. These last few years since Brexit and since Meghan came on the scene have been an eye opener for me. It's not what I thought our country was like.
There's a lot of bitterness out there.