The Mandela Effect

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Has anyone experienced it?
I’m currently sending my head backwards and forwards because I thought “Vimto” was “Vimpto”

@AtomicSquirrel3 you aren't thinking about Alana the girl from tomorrow are you? Teen sci fi drama set in Australia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheGirllfromTomorrow

Not the ‘Mandela effect’ but on the back of misremembering 9/11, I was in year 7 at the time & a lot of people I know around the same age, including my husband, would swear blind they were watching it live at home at lunch break that day and saw the second plane hit, despite the fact it was almost 2pm over here before even the first plane hit & we were all back in lessons by then.

from abc7ny.com/911-timeline-anniversary-memorial/5532981/

8:46 a.m. - Flight 11 crashes into floors 93 through 99 of the North Tower

9:03 a.m. - Flight 175 crashes into floors 77 through 85 of the South Tower.

UK time is 5 hours ahead, but we were still on BST so 4 hours, 12.46pm and 1.03pm.

I imagine if your child was home for lunch you may well have kept the child home.

UK time is 5 hours ahead, but we were still on BST so 4 hours, 12.46pm and 1.03pm.

The US does daylight saving too, so I’m pretty much 100% certain that my memory of hearing the first news at 2pm is correct. But of course our memories are not accurate as we’ve already seen!

The crisp one got me!

@WiseUpJanetWeiss it certainly is I know I have false memories about that day.

@WiseUPJanetWeiss

I definitely did see the second plane hit on TV I just must have been on the way back from the meeting not on the way to it.

I think the confusion comes from the time difference. The events happened in the morning so i remember seeing them in the morning when in fact it must have been the afternoon due to the time difference.

Re. Hillsborough we were watching the Everton match, they did cut to the scene at Hillsborough as bottleofbeer recalls it upthread.

[quote sashh]@WiseUpJanetWeiss it certainly is I know I have false memories about that day.[/quote]
Except on this occasion mine is correct. The first plane hit at 12.46 GMT, but as we were on BST this was 13.46.

I’ve been to the Eastern USA many times in September/October and its always a 5 hour time difference. The only time it’s not is the week around the changing of the clocks because they don’t always change the same weekend as the U.K.

I was five in 1984, so don’t remember halfpennies actually being in circulation - but I do remember my parents having a big tin of coppers that they used to bank when it got full, and there were loads of old ha’pennies in that - I can still remember asking what they were and why we couldn’t spend them. Maybe it was a similar thing with you?

I'm only two years older than you and I clearly remember spending them - and items being priced at something-and-a-half pence. Even when 'and-a-half-pence' prices stopped being charged, people could of course still have used two of them to pay for a penny chew or whatever.

Wikipedia says that they were 'withdrawn from circulation' in December 1984, but it then says that can either mean stopping people from using them or simply not minting any new ones. If the latter, they easily could have been around and in use for a few years afterwards; or it could be that they were first stopped from being minted new and then only declared no longer legal tender a few years later.

The government/mint is strict about ending the validity of pound coins and notes by a certain cut-off date, but maybe they just weren't that bothered about halfpennies and just let them naturally peter out? The whole reason they were taken out of usage was because they were worth so little - I can't imagine there were many counterfeiters wasting their time making fake ones, even back in the 80s!

9/11 I switched on the news around 2pm, maybe just before. DD had just woken up from an early nap as she had been poorly, and I was sitting with her while she ate lunch. News reports were just showing breaking news about the first plane, and I sat open mouthed watching the second plane hit the tower. No false memory there, it was my only day off that week.

They did both Golden Wonder & Smiths crisps had cheese and onion in green bags and salt and vinegar in blue, this was in the 70’s when the change happened not so sure. Possibly when Walkers became the prominent brand.

On the 1/2p I remember Hughie Green telling you to put a 'nine and a half p stamp' on votes for 'opportunity knocks'.

I also remember sixpence coins being worth 2 1/2p

I'm ancient.

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

I was five in 1984, so don’t remember halfpennies actually being in circulation - but I do remember my parents having a big tin of coppers that they used to bank when it got full, and there were loads of old ha’pennies in that - I can still remember asking what they were and why we couldn’t spend them. Maybe it was a similar thing with you?

I'm only two years older than you and I clearly remember spending them - and items being priced at something-and-a-half pence. Even when 'and-a-half-pence' prices stopped being charged, people could of course still have used two of them to pay for a penny chew or whatever.

Wikipedia says that they were 'withdrawn from circulation' in December 1984, but it then says that can either mean stopping people from using them or simply not minting any new ones. If the latter, they easily could have been around and in use for a few years afterwards; or it could be that they were first stopped from being minted new and then only declared no longer legal tender a few years later.

The government/mint is strict about ending the validity of pound coins and notes by a certain cut-off date, but maybe they just weren't that bothered about halfpennies and just let them naturally peter out? The whole reason they were taken out of usage was because they were worth so little - I can't imagine there were many counterfeiters wasting their time making fake ones, even back in the 80s!

If what I read is right, a 1/2p was worth more in terms of the value of the metal than its face value!

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

Looney Tunes was definitely Looney Toons. The wicked Queen definitely said Mirror mirror on the wall. It's always been vimto though

I totally remember Looney Toons so experiencing it now!

@BertieBotts .... Walkers have always been c&o blue, s&v green, with golden wonder the other way around, I think it was a way to differentiate between the two brands rather than anything else but there has never been any colour change.

The 'change' that Walkers did make was to go from plastic bags to the foil ones and that was because the foil apparently keeps the crisps fresher for longer, then when everyone else realised this to be true they all followed suit.

Walkers were always wrong.

@DrSbaitso the thing with the quote is that most people apparently know this quote, despite there not being a complete match for it, and despite not having watched any of those films. It's used as a classic example of Mandela effect in psych textbooks.

@SinisterBumFacedCat
@dennispennis

I think part of the crisp thing is that Walkers just seems to be the wrong way round, and you expect the market leader to have got it “right” !

My theory is that salt makes you think of the sea which fires a connection in your brain to the colour blue. Cheese and onion is less obvious but may link to cows/green fields or there is a link to cheese and lettuce (in a burger), or cheese and chives, so basically some green things!

Then you get surprised every time you remember that Walkers don’t follow the rules!

Oh, oh, I've thought of another one! Totally gone from google once their engagement was announced, it was portrayed as just a bit of a blip while they considered how Royal life would affect her, does anybody remember when Waity Katie and Prince William PROPERLY BROKE UP?

At the time of the break-up, the Daily Mail was 'reporting' Kate's nights out as a single woman, bravely grappling with a broken heart. They had definitely separated permanently. There was a bit of a gloating sense of 'Ha! Look where all that effort got her in the end- DUMPED!'

Yet all contemporaneous coverage of it conveniently disappeared once their engagement was announced, and their interview didn't reference it in the way it had happened at all.

@HarrietSchulenberg

I was one of the many people who swore salt n vinegar crisp packets swapped colours with cheese n onion. Apparently they didn't.

They did, I remember that too

There were walkers crisps and golden wonder brands back in the day, could it be that golden wonder were different colours to walkers?

@BitOfFun

Oh, oh, I've thought of another one! Totally gone from google once their engagement was announced, it was portrayed as just a bit of a blip while they considered how Royal life would affect her, does anybody remember when Waity Katie and Prince William PROPERLY BROKE UP?

At the time of the break-up, the Daily Mail was 'reporting' Kate's nights out as a single woman, bravely grappling with a broken heart. They had definitely separated permanently. There was a bit of a gloating sense of 'Ha! Look where all that effort got her in the end- DUMPED!'

Yet all contemporaneous coverage of it conveniently disappeared once their engagement was announced, and their interview didn't reference it in the way it had happened at all.

I remember all of this too and thought how well she was playing it. Her plan certainly worked out in the end.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-and-her-partying-days-to-win-126978

The Kate and William thing isn’t the Mandela effect though, because it definitely happened. The Mandela effect is people thinking something happened when it didn’t.

I just googled their breakup and there are stories about it all over the place.

www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung-rev2&source=android-browser&q=kate+middleton+william+broke+up

They did, I remember that too

No, they didn't. I don't know many times it's been said on this thread

Golden Wonder crisps: green = cheese and onion, blue = salt and vinegar.
Walkers: green = salt and vinegar, blue = cheese and onion.

Walkers overtook GW as the leading brand and that's what confuses people.

Walkers themselves say they've never switched the colours - why on earth would they lie about it?