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The Mandela Effect

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Bellver888 · 07/03/2021 23:32

Has anyone experienced it?
I’m currently sending my head backwards and forwards because I thought “Vimto” was “Vimpto”

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 20:02

@crochetcrazy1978

Just catching up...... I would swear blind the 1950s movie The Fly was black and white!!!!!

Am off to check right now!

That last scene with the white haired human fly chap squeaking "Help me, Help meeee" haunted me for years!

WestendVBroadway · 09/03/2021 20:03

@LouiseBelchersBunnyEars Bethany Platt in Coronation Street has the middle name Britney, so she may well have been referred to by that name at some point.
@CatRamsey Re your mispronounced wardrope, I often sound like I am saying 'Hambag' for handbag, and 'Brizemaid' for bridesmaid.
To everyone who recalls Nestle being pronounced Nessles, it could well be because people did not realise it was a French company and therefore should be pronounced the French way. There is a business near me called Thales. I never realised it was a French company, so always pronounced it like 'fails'. I now know it is French and should be pronounced to rhyme with 'Alice'.

WestendVBroadway · 09/03/2021 20:08

@MistressoftheDarkSide, the sequels to the 1958 version of The Fly (Return of The Fly and Curse of The Fly) were both filmed in black and white, despite the original being in colour. Perhaps you are thinking of one of those movies.

Bluegrass · 09/03/2021 20:08

crochetcrazy1978 - did you just watch it on a black and white tv?!

Pywich · 09/03/2021 20:12

Desperate30

‘Do you take ...’ is not in the wedding vows - it’s ‘will you take’ and the answer is ‘I will’ not ‘I do’ - all on the C of E website! So all those ‘I do’ wedding cards etc are wrong!

I think the wedding vow is 'Will you take' - response - I will
and
'Do you promise' Response - 'I do'

Pywich · 09/03/2021 20:13

Loving this thread, by the way :)

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 20:15

Just checked Wikipedia and am Shock

I didn't realise there were sequels at all, until the remake with Jeff Goldblum. And I wouldn't have watched it on a black and white TV because when we had one I would have been too young for such a thing. How odd!!

My other most dubious ones are febreeze - and I also have a memory of a discussion about the change at the time probably with my Mum and Nan who were dismissive of the "Americanisation", and also the cornucopia in FOTL. I'm conflicted about that because one of my exes had a T shirt with the logo on, and it didn't have the cornucopia so I assumed it had been changed.

I actually deep dived the whole phenomenon, and an interesting point is a 1970s folk album called "Flute of the Loom" with, yep, a cornucopia on the front. I'll have a dig for the "residue" on that.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 20:17

www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/c1uo50/i_tracked_down_the_flute_of_the_loom_illustrator/

I know it's a reddit link but it's fascinating!

Sk8ermum3000 · 09/03/2021 20:27

NeverDropYourMoonCup

It was Coronation Street actress Nikki Sanderson.....

crochetcrazy1978 · 09/03/2021 20:32

[quote MistressoftheDarkSide]@crochetcrazy1978

Just catching up...... I would swear blind the 1950s movie The Fly was black and white!!!!!

Am off to check right now!

That last scene with the white haired human fly chap squeaking "Help me, Help meeee" haunted me for years![/quote]
We watched it again recently and I said to my husband it was a shame they had colourised it. That's when we found out it had never been in black and white. I'm def not getting confused with a later film as I distinctly remember the fly in the web at the end and the bit where his wife is screaming and you see it from his point of view with loads of little pics of her. We're not the only ones. Loads of people remember it in b&w. Soo bizarre

crochetcrazy1978 · 09/03/2021 20:33

@Bluegrass

crochetcrazy1978 - did you just watch it on a black and white tv?!
Pretty sure we only had colour tellies when I would have first seen it (early 90's)
FeltCarrot · 09/03/2021 20:40

I am old and can remember a “canny bag of Tudor” crisps, made by KP. Cheese and Onion were definitely in a green packet.

sunflowersandbuttercups · 09/03/2021 20:42

@Judashascomeintosomemoney no, they're fake.

Walkers has confirmed numerous time that they've never switched colours on the packets.

I don't know why people still think they're lying?

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 09/03/2021 20:42

@Pywich

Desperate30

‘Do you take ...’ is not in the wedding vows - it’s ‘will you take’ and the answer is ‘I will’ not ‘I do’ - all on the C of E website! So all those ‘I do’ wedding cards etc are wrong!

I think the wedding vow is 'Will you take' - response - I will
and
'Do you promise' Response - 'I do'

Catechism refers to RC wedding vows as the 'I do'. And most of us first learn the American version of wedding vows through seeing movies - not through attending multiple services in England governed by The Book of Common Prayer.

So, not a Mandela effect, more of an ecumenical matter brought about from the US being the source of most movies.

LIamaDelRey · 09/03/2021 20:43

*I vividly remember watching a program about Tiananmen Square and the man who stood in front of the tank was run over - except he wasn't.

I only found out he wasn't when I read an article about the Mandela Effect and it was given as an example. I immediately searched for footage, and it was exactly as I remembered, except after a bit he walks away, whereas I remembered the tank rolling forward and blocking him from view before running him over.*

Me too. No explanation for it...unless it coincided with me seeing A fish called Wanda made the year before where Kevin Kline gets steamrollered.

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/03/2021 20:44

Can people stop producing stills from 'back in time' tv show showing the wrong colour walkers crisp packets?

What is more likely..

Walkers have a huge conspiracy to pretend they never changed the crisp packet colour ...

Or...

someone accidentally producing the wrong replica crisp packets (quite probably because they THOUGHT exactly the same as many of you that the colours had at some point changed) to furnish a shop for a TV show?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 20:44

@crochetcrazy1978

This has blown my mind. My DP also remembers it in black and white, but discussing it went for the idea we watched it on b & w TVs. I'm really resistant to this because we're both 52, he had a colour TV in the late 70s bought when his family re-located from Lancashire to the IOW, and I was a strictly controlled child whose family acquired a colour TV in the early 80s - my Nana rented it from Radio Rentals in a cabinet no less lol, tres posh, - and it's the sort of film that would have been on quite late and certainly not family viewing in my house. I was a victim of early bed times until my mid to late teens, which is likely when I watched it, so, mid 80s at the earliest.

Honestly I'm beginning to think we're living in Wandavision Grin

RowanWeston · 09/03/2021 20:50

Primark used to be pronounced Preemark but nobody else I know remembers this.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 20:50

Tianeman Square is another one that makes me scratch my head, but as some countries are very good at propaganda and media manipulation, I'm prepared to accept it's not really a Mandela Effect as such. But when I saw stuff just a few years ago about how the chap was alive and well, I was pretty gobsmacked, as it had been cemented in my mind as an example of terrible oppressive human rights and regimes.

TurquoiseDragon · 09/03/2021 20:56

@lottiegarbanzo

Further, on crisps of the 80s, does anyone else remember the Phileas Fogg brand, that made fancy savoury snacks, like tortilla chips (exotic!), lovely little garlic things called mignon morceaux, mini spicy poppadoms etc? They were great and had beautiful packaging too. Then some big brand bought them out and extinguished them. Bastards.

Crisps were better in the 1980s. Fact.

I remember those, the mignon morceaux were a favourite of mine.

And Walkers never changed their colours. My late uncle was a supervisor at the factory for many years, and he said they were always blue for cheese and onionn and green for salt and vinegar.

As others have said, I'd guess the false memories is down to mixing up brands.

dotdashdashdash · 09/03/2021 20:57

RowanWeston

Preemark is the Irish pronunciation. They still say it that way afaik (it was/ is an Irish company).

LApprentiSorcier · 09/03/2021 21:01

The crisps in the '1970s corner shop' image are clearly not authentic irrespective of the colour of the packet. Walkers (and most other crisps) in the 70s were in plastic packets with a transparent window through which the contents were visible.

Those in the picture are a modern-style packet with a picture of crisps printed on them.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 09/03/2021 21:03

@RowanWeston

Primark used to be pronounced Preemark but nobody else I know remembers this.
It was in an Irish advert as Preemark and I did know of people who thought it was posher to say it that way over here.
MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 21:05

Alleged Bible changes are interesting, but may of course just be down to translation issues.

Lion and the lamb is a strong contender, the wineskins verse has turned up as having bottles in it which makes little sense, and the line "forgive us our trespasses" is very contentious in the Lords Prayer......

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/03/2021 21:11

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