The Mandela Effect

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Has anyone experienced it?
I’m currently sending my head backwards and forwards because I thought “Vimto” was “Vimpto”

My friends and I also collectively misremember 9/11 which is odd given that we were all together when the news broke live.

In what way?

I must admit, I though Christopher Plummer had died a few years ago.

And whilst this is obviously just the fall out from the flaws in human memory I love the fact that some folk think the most rational explanation is that you slipped between alternative universes. If I was in an alternative dimension I’d want big changes not fecking crisp packets!

Darth vader never said "Luke, I am your father".

Hannibal Lecter never said "Hello Clarice".

Mind blown when I discovered that they were misquoted lines.

Hannibal Lector fucking absolutely did say hello clarice I’m as sure as that!

apparently he said "good evening, Clarice".

Zevia

It’s neither of those ending he remembers though.

I googled and can see Netflix put on an alternate ending in 2019. This debate about the ending occurred years before that.

Maybe the ending shit and some one at Netflix agrees with his subconscious?

He says Hello Clarice in this clip 🙈??

The Mandela effect is a weird one. Could kind of understand it if he left Robin Island and then lived quietly in obscurity, but he became SA President!

I wonder if the people who think he died have ever watched a TV program called "The News" :o

@SwedishEdith we were on exam leave and had stayed at my house - we all remember being woken up by my Dad shouting through to my mum as he got ready for work then sitting in the livingroom watching live as the second plane flew in.

Thinking back, this wasn't possible as we're in the UK and my Dad left at 8am everyday - the first plane didn't hit until almost 2pm and I'm not sure they were even broadcasting as the second came in.

I don't think it's an alternative universe though. I think that the back to back coverage has gotten confused in our minds somewhere and we've made our own narrative as a group based on fragments of memories.

I also think that most theories can be attributed to herd mentality and memory manipulation (not intentional mind control!) with the wide range of information - right and wrong - reported on the internet.

Another interesting example is the Queen song - We are the Champions. In its original and most well known format it ends abruptly but most people sing the long "of the world" at the end. This was only done at a few live shows and later on in the We Will Rock You musical.

I very clearly remember seeing a segment on the news summary bit recently that said "Michael Jackson has been found alive in Santa Barbara and taken into custody". I was at work and we couldn't take our phones in, I ran to my car to google it and found nothing except that his Neverland ranch is located in Santa Barbara, which I didn't know previously (or it was buried deep in my brain). I couldn't find any news articles about him at all that day, so I didn't just hear it wrong, it completely disappeared.

It was a glitch in the matrix and I'm waiting to find out that other people saw the same thing.

Is the Mandela Effect where you mis-remember something?

I could have sworn that Walkers crisps used to have blue bags for salt'n'vinegar and green bags for cheese'n'onion. Then at some point Walkers switched the colours to how we know them since the 1990s. However, I'm told that the colours never got switched and green has always been salt'n'vinegar and blue has always been cheese'n'onion???!

I can't think of any examples which are shared with lots of people, but like everyone I suppose, I have memories of things like TV shows I saw as a child, or music I heard, that made a lasting impression and conjured up lots of feelings and emotions at the time.... and fast forward to adulthood, when you search them out on youtube and you're looking forward to reliving that whole experience in your mind, but it's like 'oh...there's nothing! This can't be the song (or episode of that show) I thought I was remembering? Ever so disappointing when that happens.

I 'remember' the Walkers crisps packet colour change too!

Memory is ridiculously unreliable.
It is hilarious the there are people who think that they've entered an alternate universe rather than accept the truth that our memories are unreliable and easy to manipulate (consciously and unconsciously.)

Bit long but interesting.

@trindi that’s been edited.
Also ‘play it again, sam’ never happened 😂

There is this one
www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/46298-newsflash-precognition-or-message/

@Sobeyondthehills that is so weird

I’m sure Worcestershire sauce used to be ‘Worcester Sauce’.

Pp who think it’s Looney Toons - that’s how Americans pronounce tunes (no yod dropping) so you probably misheard it as that.

Walkers crisp packets definitely swapped colours. I don’t know why they’re lying!

My favourite example of this is the conspiracy theory around the 80s film ‘Shazam’, starring the comedian Sinbad. (Not related to the 2019 film of the same name.)

In the early days of the internet, when people used to talk on message boards for the sheer novelty of talking to people around the world, it became a popular topic - basically ‘OMG I loved that movie when I was a kid; how come it’s never on TV anymore? You can’t even find it on VHS’. Then DVDs became mainstream and people started asking why it wasn’t being released on DVD.

Eventually it became a very big thing and Sinbad gets to hear about it. He says, ‘Sorry everyone - the movie you think you remember doesn’t exist. You’re thinking of ‘Kazaam’, which is from the early 90s and actually stars Shaquielle O’Neal [who looks a bit like him]. I never made a movie called ‘Shazam’’.

If you look up Kazaam, it has the exact plot described for Shazam - kindly, comical genie helps two orphans. You’d think this would be the end of utter. Ohhhh no. Cue thousands of people telling Sinbad he’s wrong; why is he lying?! Why can’t we watch the movie we love?!? He MUST have had it suppressed somehow.

To put this into context, Sinbad was last in the news for an unpaid $1m tax bill. He’s not influential enough to suppress THAT - but he’s managed to have a film taken out of circulation worldwide?

Google it - it’s fascinating how people are so desperate to prove they’re right, even when all the evidence screams otherwise.

@Longdistance

I killed off Jimmy Greaves the other day. I thought he died last year The crisps thing has always got me and I didn’t realise it was a thing until recently.

So did DP when we heard that Ian St John had died and I said 'Is Jimmy Greaves still alive' to which DP replied with certainty 'don't be daft, he died years ago'. Turns out that he is still alive, but in poor health after a series of strokes.

I don't remember anything about Nelson Mandela dying in the 1980s, as opposed to in 2013 but I'm one of those convinced of the Walkers crisps colour change and I would put it at around 1980, but if it was a major change in shops from Golden Wonder to Walkers, maybe that was the actual reason as I was definitely primary school age at the time it happened, so would have known about colour/flavour associations but less about brands.

@Cactus1982

I’m sure Worcestershire sauce used to be ‘Worcester Sauce’.

They're two different things. I think Worcestershire sauce is a branded version and Worcester sauce a generic similar thing.

A bit like Heinz tomato ketchup and general 'tomato sauce'.

[quote OwlBeThere]@Awwlookatmybabyspider walkers have always had salt and vinegar in green. Golden wonder had them in blue though and that’s why people get them mixed up.[/quote]
Exactly. When I was growing up the brand everyone had was Golden Wonder. It may have been a regional thing, Golden Wonder was definitely the predominant brand in Scotland. And they had salt and vinegar in blue, cheese and onion green.

Walkers bought over loads of other brands and they use the opposite colour coding. Golden Wonder is still available but nowhere near as popular as Walkers, so people think the colours were purposely swapped in the way that Marathon became Snickers and Opal Fruits became Starburst.