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To think that a 6 year sentence is excessive

269 replies

Frenchfancy · 05/03/2021 18:30

And that à man in the same circumstances would never have been given such a sentence.

Obviously she should be punished and never teach again, but 6 years!
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-married-teacher-35-who-23612495

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Liquorishtoffee · 06/03/2021 12:08

Didn’t he also run off to France with her - isn’t that kidnapping?

Mittens030869 · 06/03/2021 12:15

Its neither here nor there whether a man would have gotten the same sentence - we all know that many many people are given more lenient sentences than we think is necessary. In this case I believe the judge got it right.

This in spades.

Brainwave89 · 06/03/2021 12:22

There were further reports in another paper I read which aggregated this case. Threats were issued to the boy and there was some significant coercion used to try and stop this news coming out. Six years feels about right to me. If I were the parent I would want more. It is a myth that boys in society do not suffer when sexually abused by women.

LucieStar · 06/03/2021 12:31

Anyone who thinks women are sentenced more harshly for sex offences than male offenders are... read this. It's absolutely appalling.

21 year old woman who had sex with an 11 year old boy who she was being trusted to babysit for - 6 month prison sentence suspended for 2 years (meaning she didn't even go to prison).

And the victim's father completely minimised her actions by saying his son was "totally up for it" and "sex mad". He said that about his own 11 year old son!! Can you imagine if this was a 21 year old male abusing an 11 year old girl - which father would come out with that?! Probably none, they'd all be wanting to kill the offender no doubt.

Sex offences against male children by women are minimised - it's disgusting.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/father-defends-babysitter-who-had-sex-11-year-old-son-because-he-was-fully-it-a6680436.html

ThePants999 · 06/03/2021 12:33

I love watching Mumsnet react to the introduction of logic into an emotive subject. @XDownwiththissortofthingX my sympathies 😁

Hesma · 06/03/2021 12:45

She is a paedophile abusing a position of trust be it is rape... deserves all she gets and more

RedGoldAndGreene · 06/03/2021 12:52

I thought rape was 7 years?

RedGoldAndGreene · 06/03/2021 12:54

I have no sympathy for guilty offenders who plead not guilty and put their victim through the trauma of a trial.

Songsofexperience · 06/03/2021 13:12

It's not excessive, not if you consider that she's left that boy with baggage that will stay with him for the rest of his life. He'll look back on his teenage years and it'll always be there. He had to lie, deal with the perception of his peers and teachers, change schools, and the whole thing being dragged through court and the papers... how awful. He would have had to give evidence and that would have been the most mortifying experience of his life.
So no. 6 years is not too harsh. I don't care about her being a woman. That's beside the point. Justice needs to be done. She didn't show an ounce of decency so in my view it's fully deserved.

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Fembot123 · 07/03/2021 13:11

I’d say 15 year old boys are just a susceptible to thinking they have fallen in love with the person who has groomed and abused them as girls and that could lead to all kinds of issues for them.

RedGoldAndGreene · 07/03/2021 14:04

And controversially, I do think it's worse if it's a male teacher.

Shockplaying Devil's advocate but does it matter if the child is straight or gay?

RedGoldAndGreene · 07/03/2021 14:07

@Fembot123

I’d say 15 year old boys are just a susceptible to thinking they have fallen in love with the person who has groomed and abused them as girls and that could lead to all kinds of issues for them.
I agree. I'd say it was possibly worse because of the attitude that boys are sex mad and a teacher might have been a fantasy for some at that age.
ancientgran · 07/03/2021 14:30

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Sn0tnose · 07/03/2021 16:34

She’s a child sex offender. They could have locked her up and thrown away the key and I’d have been quite happy with that. Six years is certainly not excessive for what she did and she is not the victim here simply because other child sex offenders (of both sexes) have received much lighter sentences.

There is a serious problem when six years (so out in three) is regarded as an excessive sentence for ruining a child’s life.

IHateCoronavirus · 07/03/2021 17:22

The poor boy, it will take a lot longer than six years to unpick what happened to him. It must be very confusing.
I am also filled with sorrow for her poor children and the damage this will be going to them.
The sex of the offender should not matter in terms of sentencing. The sex of the victim does not make them any less of a victim.
6 years is not enough.

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