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Who is being unreasonable here, him or me?

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Naunet · 01/03/2021 12:36

This is going to be a long one, so fair warning!

I’m so fed up with my life right now, and I do think I might be a little depressed, probably from lockdown like a lot of people. So I need to know if I’m being fair or not towards my partner right now.

We’ve been together 10 years, he’s a wonderful man, kind, empathetic, funny and we get on fantastically. When we first started living together, he moved into my flat. He was earning around 80k-100k per year, I was earning about 32k, however because the bills were already set up to come out of my account, I kept being the one to pay them, whilst he paid for food, meals out, a couple of holidays, and most of our expenses for our dog. Thinking back now, I don’t think it was the best way to split finances, but he insisted he was spending just as much as I was each month on “us”, and it didn’t feel that uneven, so I didn’t worry too much.

A couple of years ago he got really depressed over his job and wanted to quit and retrain to do something else. I had a promotion at work and my pay was increased to 40k, so I agreed that he should quit if it would make him happy, and we also planned to move a little further out of London.

So we found a new place, and because he wasn’t working at this point, all the new bills again went in my name, it also transpired that he had no savings at this point, which I just can’t understand when he was such a high earner, and to be honest, it pissed me off a bit. It also meant I paid for all of our moving costs, as well as purchasing new furniture that we needed, out of my savings. Around this time we also discussed marriage. We’d talked about it a few times over the years, but now it became apparent he had no plans to marry me, and whilst that wasn’t a deal breaker for me, it did mean I wanted to start planning for my own future independent of him. He already has a property that he owns, I don’t, so I wanted to start saving to buy somewhere.

Time went on and he was making minimum effort to find a job, and also did very little around the house. His mum gave him 13k, he sold his motorbike and I lent him 3k to tide him over, he did also still buy the food shopping, but the vast majority of this money was spent on his assets. Then COVID hit, and with the increased stress, I lost it with him. I told him that whilst he was home he couldn’t just sit on the sofa playing games all day, he needed to do a proper food shop so that we had stuff in should we both get sick, he needed to do the house work and step up and contribute (not financially, just something towards our relationship). Things did improve, but obviously him finding a job became even harder.

Just before Christmas last year, he finally got a new job after almost 2 years of being out of work, and it came with the opportunity to retrain, its exactly what he wanted to do so I’m happy for him, however, he is only being paid 25k, this is not what he told me he’d be earning. So this means I’m still paying for all of our bills except food, whilst he uses his money to pay his mortgage and the credit card debt he’s built up whilst being out of work. I really resent this, I need to buy my own house, yet instead I’m financing his. I wouldn’t mind if we were married, but we’re not, and we’re not going to be.

He’s not mentioned relooking at the bills since he’s started earning, or even mentioned paying back my 3k. I know he will start earning more once he’s been in the job longer, but he seems to just assume it’s ok to keep leaving me with all the bills without even discussing it with me.

A week ago he told me he’d won £200 on the lottery. I waited to see if he would do something for us with the money, but nope, he seems to have just kept it to himself. I’m starting to feel so resentful, I’ve raised it with him, he claims he subsided me whilst we lived in our own place, but fuck knows how he comes to that conclusion when I paid all our bills there too. I think if he showed some gratitude or acknowledge the sacrifices I’m making to support him, I wouldn’t be so angry, but he doesn’t, it’s like he thinks I owe him this.

I’m turning 40 this year, I’m desperate to buy, but I just can’t see how I can afford it when I’m having to support this man.

What do we do? How do I stop this resentment building? I want to be clear that he’s not tight, even though he sounds it from the above, I think it’s more that he has the mentality that we’re going to spend our lives together, so all money is our money and we’re a team. I’m not so sure anymore.

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Pillowcase123 · 01/03/2021 12:40

Protect yourself OP. I'm not saying he's going to walk away or anything but if he did, what would you have?

SeasonFinale · 01/03/2021 12:44

If he owns a property and is paying the mortgage on it I also assume he is renting it out and receiving an income from it.

I don't understand though, if you are renting, why everything is not being split 50/50 and why you would give him £3k after his mother had given him £13k.

Time to make him pay a proper share of ship him out.

Aquamarine1029 · 01/03/2021 12:44

He is taking you for a mug, and I would be sending him back to his home. You would be so much better off without him.

yearinyearout · 01/03/2021 12:45

What's going on with the property he owns? Assuming he rents it out doesn't that cover his mortgage?

Bluntness100 · 01/03/2021 12:47

He has a mentality all money is “our money” and are a team ,,how can you think that when he’s been sponging off you for years?

CuriousSeal · 01/03/2021 12:50

You're crazy to have supported him financially for so long without being married. Get him to start contributing towards the bills 50/50 or kick him out. If he needs to sell his house to pay his way then so be it. You're not his cash cow!

Naunet · 01/03/2021 12:58

Thanks all, I absolutely do want to protect myself, which is why I’m really starting to resent this situation.

He does rent the flat out, however he’s had issues with a leak in the bathroom, and then the boiler needed replacing, plus it was empty for some time last year. To be honest though, the more I think about this, I have no idea where his money goes, I still can’t get my head around having no savings when he was such a high earner.

I gave him the 3k because after around a year he had spent most of the money his mum gave him, and rather than me picking up the food bill too, I thought it would be better to lend him some money so that I’d actually get it back (although I know that’s not guaranteed).

How do I move forward from this? He really is a good man, he’s my best friend, but I feel like he’s starting to take me for granted, and I don’t know how to resolve this.

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Aquamarine1029 · 01/03/2021 13:01

He really is a good man, he’s my best friend, but I feel like he’s starting to take me for granted, and I don’t know how to resolve this.

It's not that he's started taking you for granted, you've allowed him to right from the beginning.

Fairydustrust · 01/03/2021 13:04

Oh dear. So many threads on here like this. You do know that you have no claim whatsoever on his property? The one you have subsidized for so long. You need to start putting yourself first, op. Issue some ultimatums, and stick to them.

DavidsSchitt · 01/03/2021 13:06

Christ, you've allowed him to sponge off you from the very beginning.

He's earning 25k and he has income from a rental property. He can split the bills down the middle.

Why are you waiting for him to mention paying you back the money he owes? Are you mute?

Naunet · 01/03/2021 13:07

@Bluntness100 I’d say he’s been “sponging” off me for 2 years, but I did agree he should quit his job and I’d help, I just didn’t expect it to be for this long! Before that he was generous with his money, it didn’t feel unfair I guess. At one point he even surprised me with a credit card on his account because he wanted me to have access to his money as I was paying the bills. I never really used it, but he was happy for me to.

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anunexaminedlife · 01/03/2021 13:08

Wow, I feel so angry on your behalf. So during all these years he's built up lots of equity in his own property (and minimal outgoings as the mortgage is covered by the rent) whilst benefitting from living rent and Bill free as that's all covered by you. AND on top of that he's lent money from you. AND he's now decided he doesn't want to get married, so he has hung on your coat tails for years and whatever happens in the future he has all of his assets to himself without ever really having had to contribute anything.

Bluntness100 · 01/03/2021 13:08

Are you sure he has no savings? Because this man is just got his hand out and taking from you, from the start.

So either he has a hidden issue Ie gambling, drugs, or he’s got a savings account and he doesn’t want you to know.

anunexaminedlife · 01/03/2021 13:09

@Bluntness100

Are you sure he has no savings? Because this man is just got his hand out and taking from you, from the start.

So either he has a hidden issue Ie gambling, drugs, or he’s got a savings account and he doesn’t want you to know.

Yes to this.
Butchyrestingface · 01/03/2021 13:10

I read OPs like this and hope they can’t be real. ☹️

GET RID OF HIM.

Naunet · 01/03/2021 13:11

Why are you waiting for him to mention paying you back the money he owes? Are you mute?

Of course not, I’ve raised the bills with him a couple of times. Last time we spoke, we agreed that he would keep all the receipts from the food shopping for a month as he’s convinced he’s spending a grand a month (for 2 of us!!!), and I think that’s unlikely, but if it’s true, we could look at ways to cut back. This weekend I found out he’s not been doing that, so we had another argument about it and he promised he would start.

For the 3k, I guess for now I’m ok waiting until he’s earning a little more, it’s more the fact that he hasn’t raised the issue with me and asked if that’s ok that pisses me off.

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Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 01/03/2021 13:12

So a man is sponging off you, dragging you down and destroying your financial future.

And your question is how to deal with the resentment over this?!?! Like seriously just read that back. You SHOULD fee resentment, that’s about the only rational thing about this situation.

HollowTalk · 01/03/2021 13:12

@Aquamarine1029

He is taking you for a mug, and I would be sending him back to his home. You would be so much better off without him.
Exactly this.

Your first mistake was fatal, really, when you continued to pay for everything while this high earner bought the food and said it was quits.

Don't fall for the sunk costs fallacy. You have invested time and money into this man and if you continue to do so things won't improve, they will get worse.

Walk away.

AryaStarkWolf · 01/03/2021 13:14

He's not your best friend OP, Best friends look out for each other and help each other

Annasgirl · 01/03/2021 13:16

Oh, OP, with the kindest heart I want to say to you - he is not the most wonderful man. I do not know what you learned about men growing up, but he has been screaming "wrong 'un" since you met, and you have ignored the sirens. Now, as your 40th approaches, perhaps you can see that you need to get out of this relationship and not waste another 10 years of your life on him.

You say in your OP that you are depressed - this is your body and mind telling you something is really wrong, and it is - you are with someone who is using you, using your goodness and wearing you down. You have so much to give and you have so many opportunities to live a wonderful life, just not with this man. Please consider the unanimous advice on here, move on from this relationship.

I didn't vote OP, I do not think you are being unreasonable to be upset, but I think you are unreasonable to expect him to change after 10 years of him selfishly taking you for granted.

RhymesWithOrange · 01/03/2021 13:18

What you have OP is a cocklodger. Time to move on. Stop subsidising him. Get your money back. Buy your own place. Date him by all means but this is not someone you can build a life with.

Underpaidsnackbitch · 01/03/2021 13:18

It sounds to me like he is getting the best of both worlds. Its 'household' income for your home, but his extra property is 'his'
once his mortgage is paid off he will have a lovely nest egg and you'll be left with nothing. That unfair. I think you need to put your foot down. He either starts paying 50/50 towards the household, or the property becomes a joint property and become part of your household income and expenditure. I also wouldn't be surprised if he has savings that you don't know about.

Crockof · 01/03/2021 13:23

1k a month on food for the two of you? I am always shocked at how little people spend on food on MN but this is the first time I have been shocked by the amount spent.

Naunet · 01/03/2021 13:23

Thanks everyone for your advice, I don’t think I was expecting these answers, and I feel like I need to defend him, because I promise you, in so many ways, he really is a good person. He’s kind, would do anything for anyone, has been there for me through difficult times, has been my rock and doesn’t have a sexist bone in his body which was a big deal to me after previous relationships.

But I can’t ignore what you’ve all said, I think I’ve given him too much blind credit when looking at finances, I’ve been an idiot.

I’ve always been so determined to never rely on a man financially, but I should have had just as much determination to never let a man rely on me financially either!

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Naunet · 01/03/2021 13:25

1k a month on food for the two of you? I am always shocked at how little people spend on food on MN but this is the first time I have been shocked by the amount spent

Ha! Yeah, I’d be pretty shocked if he’s really spending that much, it’s not like we live off lobster and champagne. He smokes so I imagine he includes his cigarette costs in the shopping, but even so, it’s a ridiculous amount.

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