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Who is being unreasonable here, him or me?

116 replies

Naunet · 01/03/2021 12:36

This is going to be a long one, so fair warning!

I’m so fed up with my life right now, and I do think I might be a little depressed, probably from lockdown like a lot of people. So I need to know if I’m being fair or not towards my partner right now.

We’ve been together 10 years, he’s a wonderful man, kind, empathetic, funny and we get on fantastically. When we first started living together, he moved into my flat. He was earning around 80k-100k per year, I was earning about 32k, however because the bills were already set up to come out of my account, I kept being the one to pay them, whilst he paid for food, meals out, a couple of holidays, and most of our expenses for our dog. Thinking back now, I don’t think it was the best way to split finances, but he insisted he was spending just as much as I was each month on “us”, and it didn’t feel that uneven, so I didn’t worry too much.

A couple of years ago he got really depressed over his job and wanted to quit and retrain to do something else. I had a promotion at work and my pay was increased to 40k, so I agreed that he should quit if it would make him happy, and we also planned to move a little further out of London.

So we found a new place, and because he wasn’t working at this point, all the new bills again went in my name, it also transpired that he had no savings at this point, which I just can’t understand when he was such a high earner, and to be honest, it pissed me off a bit. It also meant I paid for all of our moving costs, as well as purchasing new furniture that we needed, out of my savings. Around this time we also discussed marriage. We’d talked about it a few times over the years, but now it became apparent he had no plans to marry me, and whilst that wasn’t a deal breaker for me, it did mean I wanted to start planning for my own future independent of him. He already has a property that he owns, I don’t, so I wanted to start saving to buy somewhere.

Time went on and he was making minimum effort to find a job, and also did very little around the house. His mum gave him 13k, he sold his motorbike and I lent him 3k to tide him over, he did also still buy the food shopping, but the vast majority of this money was spent on his assets. Then COVID hit, and with the increased stress, I lost it with him. I told him that whilst he was home he couldn’t just sit on the sofa playing games all day, he needed to do a proper food shop so that we had stuff in should we both get sick, he needed to do the house work and step up and contribute (not financially, just something towards our relationship). Things did improve, but obviously him finding a job became even harder.

Just before Christmas last year, he finally got a new job after almost 2 years of being out of work, and it came with the opportunity to retrain, its exactly what he wanted to do so I’m happy for him, however, he is only being paid 25k, this is not what he told me he’d be earning. So this means I’m still paying for all of our bills except food, whilst he uses his money to pay his mortgage and the credit card debt he’s built up whilst being out of work. I really resent this, I need to buy my own house, yet instead I’m financing his. I wouldn’t mind if we were married, but we’re not, and we’re not going to be.

He’s not mentioned relooking at the bills since he’s started earning, or even mentioned paying back my 3k. I know he will start earning more once he’s been in the job longer, but he seems to just assume it’s ok to keep leaving me with all the bills without even discussing it with me.

A week ago he told me he’d won £200 on the lottery. I waited to see if he would do something for us with the money, but nope, he seems to have just kept it to himself. I’m starting to feel so resentful, I’ve raised it with him, he claims he subsided me whilst we lived in our own place, but fuck knows how he comes to that conclusion when I paid all our bills there too. I think if he showed some gratitude or acknowledge the sacrifices I’m making to support him, I wouldn’t be so angry, but he doesn’t, it’s like he thinks I owe him this.

I’m turning 40 this year, I’m desperate to buy, but I just can’t see how I can afford it when I’m having to support this man.

What do we do? How do I stop this resentment building? I want to be clear that he’s not tight, even though he sounds it from the above, I think it’s more that he has the mentality that we’re going to spend our lives together, so all money is our money and we’re a team. I’m not so sure anymore.

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Dontjumptoconclusions · 01/03/2021 18:30

OP, if he pays for shopping via card, he should have bank statements saying how much the spend is, no need for receipts he "forgets" to save. Ask to see this asap.

junebirthdaygirl · 01/03/2021 19:04

He should be able to pop it up on his banking app on his phone.
Just to compare..most young workers start off on 25000 and manage to pay high rent , buy a car
( with a loan) buy food, pay ALL bills and often save plus have holidays. It's not a miserable amount and he should be totally responsible for his half.

OurChristmasMiracle · 01/03/2021 19:14

@Naunet look at it this way if he is genuinely spending roughly the same amount as you are, there’s no reason not to split the bills 50/50 is there?

I earn roughly the same and I am single and pay all my own bills and do manage to treat myself to, I also live in London- granted it’s a studio flat but in my own rented place. I however don’t have a pet or a mortgage and of course only feed myself

VodselForDinner · 01/03/2021 20:27

Of course he’s kind to you. I’d be kind to some sucker who was bank-rolling me too.

Honestly, OP, if you were my friend I’d pity you. You’re being used by a man who has no intention of marrying you.

Be prepared to find out he has a very healthy savings account somewhere.

Shineonyoucrazy · 02/03/2021 08:27

Tell him what you've said on this thread. After your 10 years together he has acquired wealth (he's 10 years closer to a paid mortgage) and has been able to step down at work while you have gained nothing financially but have stepped up. If he sees money and assets as shared would he consider a Civil Partnership? It doesn't have the baggage that marriage does but would mean that your position as financially co-dependent is legally recognised. I was in a similar situation and my partner said he just hadn't thought we needed legal regulation of our finances as he anticipated we would be together for life. He initially felt that my insistence was a vote of no confidence in our relationship and said it even occurred to him that I might be paving the way to leave.

Shineonyoucrazy · 02/03/2021 08:28

Sorry that sent itself!
So have the discussion and good luck because I can see that you want to find a way to make it work with this man

LannieDuck · 02/03/2021 08:42

You obviously want to continue in a relationship with him, and weren't expecting the LTB responses. That's ok - you've got 10 years of emotions wound up with him and you see all the good things that you haven't put into this post that we don't know about.

But he's bad with money, and that's affecting your future.

I suggest you go back to dating. Live separately (he can move into his house) and disentangle your finances. Have a year where you're two people who care for each other but live apart. You can get your finances sorted, and he needs to learn to stand on his own feet where money is concerned. He has a job now, so you've subsidised him through the really tough part. Now he needs to learn to live within his means.

I don't think he can do it. I suspect he'll spend a lot on credit card and ask for more loans from his Mum and you. But at least he won't be able to pretend what the problem is anymore.

thethoughtfox · 02/03/2021 09:14

@MinnieMountain

Here’s some perspective on his previous salary OP- In 5 years DH and I have managed to save £150,000 on a household salary of £80,000-£120,000. This is with having a child, a mortgage, taking decent holidays and spending a fair amount on food.

So where exactly did his £700,000 go?

Totally off topic, but how did you do it?
Saz12 · 02/03/2021 09:44

OP, he’s a freeloader and is ruining your financial future (and the present).

Even if he’s NOT just using you to bankroll him, he’s still ruining your financial future...! If you really won’t get rid of him, get him to work out exactly how much he can afford to pay in rent, bills, and food. Then move somewhere he can pay half. No les than his half, no “same share of income” but half. You pay your half. Anything left over of your salary goes into a savings account, and you DO NOT give (or “lend”) him any more of that money. Tell him you need to save to buy a property together, tell him your savings are not enough for you to feel secure (after paying for the move, the furniture, lending him £3k, etc), and you’re not prepared to go through life like this any more. If he argues about all assets being shared, tell him straight: no, you are unhappy living by constantly dipping into your savings and are going to be replacing them. Point out the deeds to his property and his investments are not in shared names.

But preferably... just get rid of him, he’s a lazy freeloader.

billy1966 · 02/03/2021 09:57

OP,

You sound like a nice woman but you have been played like a fiddle.

Just because he isn't nasty doesn't mean he isn't absolutely capable of taking advantage of you.

I'm amazed on here the amount of times I read about men being "accidentally bad with money, and don't pay for stuff because they don't realise, but they actually have a rental property, as they live rent free off some poor MUG of a woman"🙄.

Accidentally, my arse.

Funny how these 'accidents' always benefit them hugely.🙄

You have been used and made an eejit of and you are doing yourself a huge disservice by pretending otherwise.

You are a nice woman, but a mug.
He very comfortably lives off women.

Protect yourself.Flowers

Stratfordplace · 02/03/2021 10:03

Despite leaks in his bathroom (covered under insurance) and needing a new boiler, he would have paid his mortgage on the flat and maybe made a profit.
You, however, are no nearer your own goals and aspirations and continue to support his lifestyle.
I’m sorry to be blunt but what are his/and your long term plans.
You need to protect yourself financially.

Therealjudgejudy · 02/03/2021 11:36

Wow, hes a total user.

You need to protect yourself from this leech

MinnieMountain · 02/03/2021 11:46

@thethoughtfox our mortgage is £850 a month and we don’t have a car or childcare costs. Otherwise I suppose being relatively sensible.

CuntyMcBollocks · 02/03/2021 11:53

Earning 25K is more than enough to contribute to bills. Thats way more than a lot of people earn. He's taking you for a mug.

thethoughtfox · 02/03/2021 21:24

[quote MinnieMountain]@thethoughtfox our mortgage is £850 a month and we don’t have a car or childcare costs. Otherwise I suppose being relatively sensible.[/quote]
You have inspired me.

Takeitonthechin · 02/03/2021 21:35

Judge Rinder him

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