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To feel absolutely devasted.. So much pain!

155 replies

RubiconGuava · 27/02/2021 07:03

3 trips to A&E with serve stomach pain possible endometriosis bladder retention (from separate on going issue) swabs taken from GP to send off then maybe consider gynaecologist referral.

To be told deal with it at home won't be doing nothing for me at hospital..
Go and see my GP.

Just spent 6 hours in A&E throwing up.

I cannot cope at home with pain and throwing up taking care of kids.

This is really effecting my mental health and I honestly can't do it anymore.Sad

Please any advice and experience!

OP posts:
Multicover · 27/02/2021 13:59

@LemonCrab

I'm very sorry you're in so much pain.

But if you acted in A&E the way you're talking in your posts then I can understand why they were glad to see you leave.

You're not helping yourself.

Acute, severe pain can cause people to behave in ways that they normally wouldn’t. What an absolutely vile thing to post.

OP I really hope you’ve gone back to A&E.

I reported this thread earlier on hoping that MNHQ would step in to warn the armchair medics but as usual it’s been left to run.

CharlotteRose90 · 27/02/2021 14:05

I have endo and adeno so believe me I know the pain. I’m still waiting on a scan from December. Nothing to do with covid it’s just more urgent cases get priority. I would ask the doctor to prescribe an anti sickness tablet and oramorph for at home. They can do it. Or pay privately if you can afford it.

Kinneddar · 27/02/2021 14:22

You poor soul. Men would never be allowed to suffer like this

What rubbish. She's been seen, had tests done, given pain relief & offered treatment which she's refused.

A&E aren't going to sort the longer term problem. They're going to help with what's happening now & then refer to the appropriate dept. If the OP has walked out against their advice & without proper treatment there's nothing they can do, regardless if she was male or female

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 15:16

@Kinneddar it's documented in research that men in pain have far preferential treatment to women in pain.

The fact the OP has been in three times and is still in pain pretty much demonstrates that she hasn't received the best care from a pain point of view.

Beaniecats · 27/02/2021 15:34

@fightingSmiths

It's the COVID only NHS at the moment

In some areas it is. Nothing is happening., I even had an urgent cancer referral (gyne) rejected in lieu of a 5 months wait for a phone appointment. Simple ultrasounds have waiting lists of at least three months. You cannot see consultants face to face. It's absolutely dreadful round here (NW).

Glad to see that others can access treatment but it is absolutely not the case across the board.

I'm north west too. Been really bad hasn't it
Kinneddar · 27/02/2021 15:37

@BearEastie. Thats as maybe but the OP HAS been given pain relief but left without treatment.

Longer term pain management would be from other than A&E. Some conditions don't have an easy fix when it comes to pain relief. I know that from experience - the length of time it took me to get the correct thing for me wasn't down to an inefficient doctor or the fact I'm female it was about finding the right thing.

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 15:45

@Kinneddar well if she was given adequate pain relief the first time around then she wouldn't be back for the third time, in pain, in three days.

And I've already written comments on why she may have left without treatment, from the posts, it looks like there may have been poor communication about catheterisation.

Maybe you and I have a different view on how patients should be treated, but multiple trips to A and E are rarely needed if doctors took women in pain seriously on trip 1.

Orangeblossom1977 · 27/02/2021 16:13

I feel for the OP, it is a crap situation being stuck in this system, A&E not helping, GP either, I once self discharged too in severe pain - that was in gynae as well (sent there wrongly with adhesions) they laughed at me when I was very unwell Hmm

It is not the case that all docs / nurses are 'angels' some can be dismissive and insensitive, endo is a very painful and difficult condition.

I hope OP you get some help soon, at very least please contact your GP or urgent care centre to sort something out temporarily while they sort out an ongoing plan for you Flowers

AnnieGetYourPun · 27/02/2021 16:18

@fightingSmiths... I’m North West too.

Husband reported testicular lump second week December. Scan was last Friday.

Niece who’s in hospital with rupturing uterine abscesses (sent home from A&E twice) now on IV therapy and morphine in a ward. Unable to operate as would need total hysterectomy at 32 had been in agony for days. Told to take paracetamol 🤦‍♀️ There are apparently just the two of them in her gynae ward. The elderly lady who has cancer and needs help to get out to the commode, was told to “use your pad”. ie. wet yourself; we’re too busy to help you use the commode.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 17:58

[quote BearEastie]@Kinneddar it's documented in research that men in pain have far preferential treatment to women in pain.

The fact the OP has been in three times and is still in pain pretty much demonstrates that she hasn't received the best care from a pain point of view.[/quote]
@BearEastie

Oh don’t be daft

* I am sitting on a bed in A&E now just seen the gynecologist who told me she won't be doing nothing for me now.*

Female gynaecologist
And yet you think that she’s part of a conspiracy to better treat men rather than women?

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 18:12

I haven't said anything about conspiracies - I have said it is factually correct that when it comes to pain men are treated more efficiently in accident and emergency departments - and that this has been researched.

I had fabulous treatment from a male gynaecologist the other week, but it doesn't remove the fact that overall men are treated more efficiently when presenting with pain in emergency services.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:17

Please could you link to the extensive research that means it is “factually correct”

makingitupaswegoon · 27/02/2021 18:22

@BearEastie
I think it is actually in most medical scenarios men's concerns are treated more seriously than women but especially re pain and / or gynae problems. Can't remember where I read this.
There is a whole chapter in 'invisible women' book about male bias in medicine
www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/4/17/18308466/invisible-women-pain-gender-data-gap-caroline-criado-perez

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 18:24

Chewingle

www.bbc.com/future/article/20180518-the-inequality-in-how-women-are-treated-for-pain

That's an article that brings a lot of info together on the subject - it is oddly the first hit on google so I am unsure how you cannot find it yourself.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5845507/

That's the second hit on google.

www.health.harvard.edu/blog/women-and-pain-disparities-in-experience-and-treatment-2017100912562

Third hit...

Not going to paste all 67 million links - it's an interesting read though, and something I was totally unaware of until I was researching something else for work. Men and Women also feel pain differently too.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:32

That's an article that brings a lot of info together on the subject - it is oddly the first hit on google so I am unsure how you cannot find it yourself.

Didn’t bother looking. You lost me at “factually correct” tbh.

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 18:34

Chewingle

Such a shame when someone goes to the trouble to share knowledge that has been requested and they are met with rudeness. Never mind, your loss, not mine.

Have a lovely evening.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:45

You made this about gender

I will indeed respond in a somewhat, shall we say, dismissive, manner.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:45

But doesn’t mean that I don’t also wish you a lovely evening!

youvegottenminuteslynn · 27/02/2021 18:46

@Chewingle

*That's an article that brings a lot of info together on the subject - it is oddly the first hit on google so I am unsure how you cannot find it yourself. *

Didn’t bother looking. You lost me at “factually correct” tbh.

You literally asked that poster for evidence after they had said it was factually correct... then they provided it and you said you can't be arsed to read it? What a weird way to behave.
Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:48

Factually correct means that there is no cause for doubt. It was been proven categorically.

A US study indicating something does not make it “factually correct”

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 18:49

@Chewingle I actually I made it about shitty treatments with regards to pain relief and lack of explanations on catherterisation in A and E departments, which is sadly related to sex.

I am however, not the reason that happens. So no, I did not make this about sex - that happened many, many years before I was even born.

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 18:50

Chewingle

There's a lot more to it than just one US study.

Chewingle · 27/02/2021 18:50

I’m having my lovely evening now! Hope you too

MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 27/02/2021 18:58

Who would be looking after the kids if you were in hospital? Can they not care for them if you're at home so you can stay in bed/bathroom?

I understand you need stronger pain meds but being left on a ward won't be pleasant at the moment if you can avoid it

Multicover · 27/02/2021 19:07

@Chewingle

Factually correct means that there is no cause for doubt. It was been proven categorically.

A US study indicating something does not make it “factually correct”

There is a worldwide body of academic evidence that examines the very real gender disparities around pain management in acute and chronic pain. All accessible in any academic library. I assume you have access to an academic library?
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