Dog pissing on a wall - yay or nay?

[JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]

My friend is isolating at the moment due to her colleague contracting COVID so I've been walking her Collie everyday. I'm really not a dog person, at all (though I've grown a huge soft spot for this particular pooch) so don't know the etiquette around public dog behaviour. He's been a little star, he doesn't approach other dogs or people, so maybe I've got complacent with him. Because today he pissed on somebody's brick wall - even if I wanted to stop him, what was I supposed to do, kick him in the nuts? Anyway, a woman stormed out the house and had a real go at me, saying it's disgusting people let's their dogs do that and she's sick of it. I was and said I couldn't exactly stop him. She said he needs to be trained to not do it and if she catches me again she's taking a picture. I told my friend when I dropped the dog off, who just thought it was funny and has never heard of a dog being trained to not piss on a residential wall. I wondered what the MN consensus was - yay or nay to having your wall pissed on?

When a dog starts peeing, you really can’t make him stop. The only you can do is know their tell take sign that they’re about to pee (same with a poo). Usually they start to sniff the spot because surely another dog has peed there before (that’ll also be why the home owner said that).

So now you know to not let him stop at that brick wall.

The lady will, though, continue to have the same problem. Only way to stop it is to wash down the wall with bleachy water fairly often to stop the dogs each smelling the previous dog’s pee so then not all and sundry dog stopping to leave their scent one after another.

THAT is a prime example of not letting a dog be a dog!

"Go Sniff" is supposed to be encouragement to play, ignore the lead/human for a while. The absence of the command isn't supposed to mean the absence of the dog's perfectly natural curiosity! You run the risk of being a total killjoy!

Mine is trained. Took a few trainers to get him polite, to get my head in the right place to set realistic goals. The one consistent thing I was taught was that a dog has to be given the opportunity to simply be a dog. Overtraining and over 'humanising' a dog's manners can wreck a dog's mental health!

And pulling a dog away from a wee once started? That's UTI territory, and dog's can suffer for ages before they show signs of discomfort.

Pull a dog away from a peemail? Cruel. Isolating them from their doggy environment and not letting them communicate. And you risk behavioral issues because they become chronically bored or unstimulated.

And often they aren't about to pee, they are just smelling the roses!

He can be a dog. But before he was trained to go sniff on cue, which usually involves a pee, he would nearly take the arm off me pulling to go investigate some grass.

I'm honestly curious here. We're walking along, he catches a whiff of something interesting in the grass which is more than an arm's length away. He sits, I cue him to go sniff, he has a good sniff and usually a pee, and then we walk on.

How is that not letting him be a dog?

If he tries to pee on a wall, I give a gentle reminder on the lead and as soon as there's a suitable grassy space, I cue him to go sniff. Most of our walks are on a path between a wall and a grass verge, unless we're at a park, so he's never far from somewhere he can go.

The only reason I posted in the first place was to rebut the claim that you can't train a dog not to pee somewhere. I wasn't expecting to be accused of damaging my mutt's mental health or cause him UTIs...

If it crapped on the pavement in front of our gates and you left it there I’d shout at you.
Peeing on my wall? Couldn’t care less.

For anyone who doesn't understand about (male) dogs, they don't always pee to relieve themselves, they do it to 'scent mark'. It's the canine equivalent of tag grafetti.
Say my dog was to walk along and smell a urine scent saying 'Buster was here' he would be duty bound to cover it with his own urine saying 'Bonzo was here'. They seem to be able to do this with a few drops.
I have known my dog have 21 'squirts' in a walk, by which time he is empty.
My friend's dogs are castrated and pee sitting down like a bitch. So they need to be controlled when peeing as they let the lot go at once.
Simple answer, take the dog in the car to the park then let him go and widdle at will.

THAT is a prime example of not letting a dog be a dog!

and there are a fair few examples on here of not letting a house owner have a say in what is done to their own property.

Your dog, your dog piss - keep it to yourself.

Crazy lady. There is absolutely no law against it, let her take photos! what’s she planning on doing with them?

Good luck stopping a dog weeing on a wall when there’s no grass verge and the road goes on forever! I don’t know where some of you live, but it’s clearly not in a town. Blimey with all the litter, human pee, human phlegm, vomit, gum, general dirt, bird poo etc I’d take a dog wee any day! Main reason we don’t wear shoes in the house.

“ what was I supposed to do, kick him in the nuts?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@StoneofDestiny

THAT is a prime example of not letting a dog be a dog!

and there are a fair few examples on here of not letting a house owner have a say in what is done to their own property.

Your dog, your dog piss - keep it to yourself.

The front of our house is straight onto the pavement, I reckon half the dogs in the village have pissed up it. I really couldn’t care less.

The front of our house is straight onto the pavement, I reckon half the dogs in the village have pissed up it. I really couldn’t care less*

That's great - but many would, and do care. So unless you've a sign up saying dog piss welcome here, it's probably best for dog owners to assume total responsibility for their dog and it's piss.

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My friend had this against her wall 💩 on pavement so all over her wheels. She got a bucket of water with jeyes fluid mixed in cleaning the area up the wall too with a broom, dogs never stop now, she tops up when necessary.

Trained my dog to go on one designated tree in our yard. Just hosed the tree when watering the lawn. On walks we would pull him away from other peoples trees, fences etc. Trained as a puppy by trying rag (first used to clean up indoor "puddle" to a tree on our property. And rewarded each time for a while. When we moved house he did fine on our new tree, by praise and treats. He would do anything for a treat.

My old boy loves the washing line prop, he even once lifted his leg against the laundry basket as I was taking clean dry washing off the line little beast

Maybe dog owners could practise walking safely with their dogs on the street side of the pavement, if you see what I mean? Then when on the way to the park etc. the male dogs would be more likely to mark against lamposts and trees on their way to being off lead. They would need to be on a shortish lead, for safety, but that would also have the added benefit of stopping them running up other people's drives/into front gardens etc. A win win situation, if the dog owners could be bothered.

I’m going to actively encourage my dog to do this now 🤣the comments are insane!

Get a tissue and rub it in your brickwork and let me know how that goes for you! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Haha, there are so many sad little people on here. OP, I wouldn't give two hoots if the dog did a wee on my wall. It happens all the time. I've got bigger things to worry about!

I despise people who insult others with a different view point to themselves by name calling - says a lot about a person.

I would imagine the 'sad little people ' on this thread actually make good neighbours by and large, by virtue of the fact they are considerate.

There is no need to 'give him a yank'...

Engage with him, talk to him, reward him for walking close to you (treats, toys whatever he likes) whilst you pass peoples gates/walls etc...

Let him range a bit further when he's going past stuff he can pee on.

If you have him beside you, head slightly ahead of your knee/shoulder by your knee, you can SEE him go to sniff and ASK him to stay close, tell him not to pee, no need to let him sniff then yank him away. Unless he is on a nicely fitted harness, yanking him on a collar is going to hurt his neck (yes, even if he doesn't yelp or look hurt, dogs necks are pretty sensitive and we now know just walking them on collars is doing them harm!)

@WiddlinDiddlin

There is no need to 'give him a yank'...

Engage with him, talk to him, reward him for walking close to you (treats, toys whatever he likes) whilst you pass peoples gates/walls etc...

Let him range a bit further when he's going past stuff he can pee on.

If you have him beside you, head slightly ahead of your knee/shoulder by your knee, you can SEE him go to sniff and ASK him to stay close, tell him not to pee, no need to let him sniff then yank him away. Unless he is on a nicely fitted harness, yanking him on a collar is going to hurt his neck (yes, even if he doesn't yelp or look hurt, dogs necks are pretty sensitive and we now know just walking them on collars is doing them harm!)

Agree completely, I am feeling thoroughly depressed having just seen a young boy (obviously told to by his parents) continually yank at the neck of a young sprocker who was just trying to behave like a normal dog.

It was so violent to watch, I didn’t realise that people still did this.

What the hell op, I have never heard of this before, the woman sounds deranged!

Dogs do what dogs do. Honestly some people expect the whole world to revolve around them these days.

Can't believe some of the comments on here. I couldn't care less if a dog did a wee on the garden wall. Different if it was allowed to walk up the path and wee on the front door.

Our old male dog would wee up every tree and lamp post (just marking really as it was a tiny sprinkle).

Our female dog unfortunately after having an accident now doesn't know when she is weeing half the time and it goes over the path. No amount of training will stop that, just have to hope she regains bladder control. Before the accident she wouldn't go in public, quite funny really.

@Coulddowithanap

Can't believe some of the comments on here. I couldn't care less if a dog did a wee on the garden wall. Different if it was allowed to walk up the path and wee on the front door.

Our old male dog would wee up every tree and lamp post (just marking really as it was a tiny sprinkle).

Our female dog unfortunately after having an accident now doesn't know when she is weeing half the time and it goes over the path. No amount of training will stop that, just have to hope she regains bladder control. Before the accident she wouldn't go in public, quite funny really.

This thread is timely as my old boy did a wee against the outside of a wall today. I got screamed at and a women was banging on the window. Frightening behaviour.

@Puppywithattitude

I would imagine the 'sad little people ' on this thread actually make good neighbours by and large, by virtue of the fact they are considerate.

Quite so!

For the record, I wouldn't give a toss if a dog peed up my external wall or gate, but I realise it is different strokes for different folks and that it bothers some people - so I discourage mine from doing this. Its called consideration for others

That's horrible Botanicals

I meant the young boy yanking on the dog lead - although the encounter with the shouty person doesn't sound great either