Dog pissing on a wall - yay or nay?

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My friend is isolating at the moment due to her colleague contracting COVID so I've been walking her Collie everyday. I'm really not a dog person, at all (though I've grown a huge soft spot for this particular pooch) so don't know the etiquette around public dog behaviour. He's been a little star, he doesn't approach other dogs or people, so maybe I've got complacent with him. Because today he pissed on somebody's brick wall - even if I wanted to stop him, what was I supposed to do, kick him in the nuts? Anyway, a woman stormed out the house and had a real go at me, saying it's disgusting people let's their dogs do that and she's sick of it. I was and said I couldn't exactly stop him. She said he needs to be trained to not do it and if she catches me again she's taking a picture. I told my friend when I dropped the dog off, who just thought it was funny and has never heard of a dog being trained to not piss on a residential wall. I wondered what the MN consensus was - yay or nay to having your wall pissed on?

@Babyroobs

My boy pisses up everything, car tyres, wheelie bins, walls, posts. I try to pull him away from things but sometimes it happens. He peed up the Papa John delivery guys motorbike a while ago and we had to make a quick getaway.

[quote Racoonworld]@FrangipaniBlue anywhere that isn’t someone else’s property?[/quote]
So all over himself then? When the alternative is the OUTSIDE of a wall?

Okay.

@FrangipaniBlue if that was the alternative to pissing on someone else’s property then yes. Then bath when home. What would the dog do if it was in the middle of a field with no wall?

I'm pretty sure daily baths are bad for dogs (according to my dog groomer sister)

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Why would I jerk my dog off a peemail? That would strike me as punishment. He sniffs, he pees.

I see far too many dogs walked so politely on their leads. Noses never twitching, never sniffing, no meandering. Just trotting at heel in a perfectly human idea of a walk. That's cruel.

This is such crap.

My dog has been trained to walk to heel. He walks to heel along the pavement, if he tries to wee on a gate post I give him a tug and he walks on 3 steps to a lampost or bush that isn't someone's gate.

After 5 minutes we reach the nature reserve. Then he is off lead and sniffing and diving left and right and following smells, diving into bushes etc.,

Time and place.

and training.

Of course it’s unacceptable.

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Why would I jerk my dog off a peemail? That would strike me as punishment. He sniffs, he pees.

I see far too many dogs walked so politely on their leads. Noses never twitching, never sniffing, no meandering. Just trotting at heel in a perfectly human idea of a walk. That's cruel.

I thought I was the only one that finds this odd.

My dog wanders along sniffing, stopping to look at things, standing and staring into the distance and then she heads for the muddiest field to have a good sniff, play with her ball a bit and collect rabbit droppings.

I see so many dogs walking along beside their owners, never stopping to sniff a lamp post or look at something on the ground and I'm never sure if that means I'm doing it wrong.

She doesn't however, pee on other people's property.

When they do it against my house, I pour bleach on it. As for cats and foxes shitting the garden, we have trained all the locals with a water pistol. They don’t dig up the flower beds anymore...

I would hate that both as the dog owner and the wall owner. When I've walked a male dog I steer clear of walls and cars etc until getting to an acceptable spot.

My current dog is female, but if she tries to wee somewhere unsuitable, like the middle of a path, I find a brisk 'come on', whilst walking quickly soon deters her so I can get her to somewhere else nearby like the hedgeside verges.

Yup, as other posters have said, a squeezy water bottle to wash it away. There’s not a lot you can do when a dog decides to wee. If it’s an outside wall, the man is being unreasonable. We lived near a pub, and I can’t tell you how often drunken men did a wee on out outside wall. I hated it, but there wasn’t a lot we could do.

Well I have him again for the next 5 days so will give him a bit of a yank if he goes near any walls.

I suppose I assumed he was trained really well as he's so good otherwise. Never even looks at another dog or human!

Although what is it with yappy wee dogs starting on him?! Things the size of my foot going crazy while he's just looking like this

[quote Racoonworld]@FrangipaniBlue if that was the alternative to pissing on someone else’s property then yes. Then bath when home. What would the dog do if it was in the middle of a field with no wall?[/quote]
How is he going to get to the middle of a field - fly there? He will wee on the various trees, bushes, lamp posts, walls etc the way there (and it's a mile from my house so no chance of him waiting that long to go!)

Peeing on the outside of a wall quite literally harms nobody.

Bathing my dog 2/3 times a day? Pretty sure that would be harmful to my dog.

When my dog cocks his leg to pee on a fence / wall I do shout 'no' and tug his lead. He takes that as his cue to shuffle a few feet further along and pee there instead. It is kind of rude to let them pee on someone's fence / gate

It gets a bit grim in summer when there isn’t rain to wash it away. Avoid when possible though regardless of time of year.

It's a small amount of wee on an exterior wall that during the day and night is probably contaminated by lots of animals,cats spraying,foxes,bird's,the dogs generally squirt a small amount just to mark their territory.those people insisting a dog doesn't do it as it's filthy,well are ott and if the dog walkers do see it and stop the dog it will already have done it.
You can be walking along looking ahead and not realise for a step that dog has paused,cocked,shot,carried on.
If my dogs pause near a car,bush,drive or garden I'll pull them on,not allow them to wee just anywhere but it's ridiculous to vent at anyone for a wall.
And yes I always carry dog water,bowls,poop bags,hand wash,wipes,treats and a dog first aid kit.I'm not going to waste the water on a brick wall.

@CaffeineAndCrochet

You can train a dog to ask permission before they go for a pee. Mine will sit down and stare at me until I tell him it's ok to go sniff. I generally only let him pee on grass or trees and will pull him away if he tries to mark a spot on a wall.

THAT is a prime example of not letting a dog be a dog!

"Go Sniff" is supposed to be encouragement to play, ignore the lead/human for a while. The absence of the command isn't supposed to mean the absence of the dog's perfectly natural curiosity! You run the risk of being a total killjoy!

Mine is trained. Took a few trainers to get him polite, to get my head in the right place to set realistic goals. The one consistent thing I was taught was that a dog has to be given the opportunity to simply be a dog. Overtraining and over 'humanising' a dog's manners can wreck a dog's mental health!

And pulling a dog away from a wee once started? That's UTI territory, and dog's can suffer for ages before they show signs of discomfort.

Pull a dog away from a peemail? Cruel. Isolating them from their doggy environment and not letting them communicate. And you risk behavioral issues because they become chronically bored or unstimulated.

And often they aren't about to pee, they are just smelling the roses!

@pigsDOfly You wouldn't happen to be owned by an EBT would you?

Your username makes me think you might be! A trained one at that! As am I

This thread is hilarious.

Humans really do think they are the only species on this planet don't they! Also loving the work of the poster who seems to think that using the word "mutt" repeatedly is somehow driving home their ridiculous point!

I would add, if "dog piss" is seeping through your bricks then you have a major problem with your house.

@CuriousaboutSamphire No, my dog's a small fluffy thing. The type of dog that you often see walking along nicely beside its owner, staying clean and not getting into a mess.

She doesn't know that however, and thinks she's made to roll in mud.

And she looks nothing like a EBT

My user name relates to something completely different.

@pigsDOfly Ah! There's a quite famous EBT training book called When Pigs Fly. Your username made me think of it

@CuriousaboutSamphire. Ah okay, yes, I can see why you might think I had an EBT then.

I do think its a bit grim but I had to laugh at "if she catches me again she's taking a picture". What is she going to do with a picture 😂