To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

[Ladytremain]

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

In my opinion. I mean I knew someone would be right on to say otherwise. Again. Not a fan, before I get lynched but yes I do feel he tries to be a bit more positive above having an end in sight etc compared to Nicola with the grim pessimism

@Jollygoodtime

I agree. As much as I don’t like Boris and his political stance I dislike hers just as much and feel that at least he is more uplifting when he speaks. We need less doom and gloom. People are losing hope.

I think I agree - the recent messaging especially has taken a time which should be more hopeful and optimistic given we have vaccines and turned it in to more endless gloom and restrictions.

He's been positive all the way through his government's disastrous handling of the pandemic. It hasn't done much for me I have to say.

We all look for different things I suppose. I’m anxious enough about life in general to feel that the people in charge of getting us through this feel hopeless too.

I realise not all Scots are Anglophobic. I know a good few Scots and they're an absolute delight to be around. They also thoroughly dislike the SNP !

In fact it was a Scottish friend that explained to me once that: Sturgeon and the SNP's entire political platform is based on the tactic: 'why talk about your own performance, when you can just generate hate for outsiders'?

The way Sturgeon mines the grievance out of every political development is embarrassing for decent Scots. And some of the blatant Anti English rhetoric that comes out of the mouths of SNP members, which the SNP leadership encourage, would cause complete outrage if it was from any other source.

@RubysArms

He's been positive all the way through his government's disastrous handling of the pandemic. It hasn't done much for me I have to say.

I disagree. Johnson's 'leadership' during this pandemic has been an absolute disaster. Non existent in fact. He's allowed himself to be pulled every which way by SAGE or anyone else with an authoritative tone of voice.

@thefourgp

I’m Scottish and I like her. Most of the other Scottish people I know like her too. She’s a politician and all politicians, regardless of what party they belong to, enjoy feeling important. That doesn’t mean she enjoys having to keep people in lockdown. If she triggers you because you associate her with the shitshow that is a global pandemic then switch off every time she comes on the tv or radio. I wouldn’t want her job for a billion pounds. She’s been strong, direct, articulate and sympathetic during a crisis and I think she’s doing a great job.

Completely agree

I think Billy Connolly said it best:

"Braveheart is pure Australian shite. William Wallace was a spy, a thief, a blackmailer - a c*t basically. And people are swallowing it. It's part of a new Scottish racism, which I loathe - this thing that everything horrible is English. It's conducted by the great unread and the conceited w*ers at the SNP, those dreary little pr*ks in Parliament who rely on bigotry for support"

Rzcism is abhorrent in all it's forms. And you'll probably find as much of it per head of population in Scotlland as you do in England or Wales.

But that's not what Scottish independence is about. Not for me, and not for the people around me at any rate. It's about Scottish votes being meaningful.

We have almost always always voted differently to England, and yet it really doesn't matter who we vote for in Westminster, we do not have a meaningful voice there. It's not about Westminster or the English being 'hottible'. And the things is, there are plenty in England that feel exactly the same way - they don't feel represented by their government. So I'm not sure why Scotland gets such a hard time and accused of racism for feeling that way. I guess it's an easy way to try to discredit us. Just like Brexit.

And if you want to bring the Big Yin into it, he also said 'a Scottish republic is as good an idea as any II've heard'

@IgiveupallthenamesIwantedareg0

Check Janey Godley's voiceovers - if that doesn't cheer you up nothing will!

Watching that would push sane people over the edge. She's not funny in the slightest & quite frankly an embarrassment to Scotland

@BidensWingWoman

Rzcism is abhorrent in all it's forms. And you'll probably find as much of it per head of population in Scotlland as you do in England or Wales.

But that's not what Scottish independence is about. Not for me, and not for the people around me at any rate. It's about Scottish votes being meaningful.

We have almost always always voted differently to England, and yet it really doesn't matter who we vote for in Westminster, we do not have a meaningful voice there. It's not about Westminster or the English being 'hottible'. And the things is, there are plenty in England that feel exactly the same way - they don't feel represented by their government. So I'm not sure why Scotland gets such a hard time and accused of racism for feeling that way. I guess it's an easy way to try to discredit us. Just like Brexit.

And if you want to bring the Big Yin into it, he also said 'a Scottish republic is as good an idea as any II've heard'

It's not about Westminster or the English being 'hottible' Maybe for you it isn't, but for many Scots it is. Sturgeon and co are doing their best to fan the flames of English hatred. So pronounced is her Anglophobia, she won't even bring herself to use 'Oxford' as part of the name of the second vaccine.

When devotion to a cause becomes that biased, it borders on some form of madness.

So pronounced is her Anglophobia, she won't even bring herself to use 'Oxford' as part of the name of the second vaccine

Aye, right

It looks like wherever you are getting your information from, it's biased and not shying away from 'fake news'.

You might want to think on that as you make claims about racism and english hatred.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1377408/andrew-neil-twitter-scottish-independence-snp-news

ANDREW NEIL has hit out Scottish nationalists in two impressive clashes on Twitter after a former SNP MP appeared to compare Boris Johnson's Government denying a second Scottish referendum to the Apartheid and American civil rights oppression.

Mr Neil skewered independence activist and former SNP MP George Kerevan after he appeared to suggest a link between indyref2 campaign struggles to the Apartheid, American civil rights and British colonial oppression. Mr Kerevan posted pictures on Twitter of Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr and Mahatma Gandhi.

Along with these images, he wrote: "People who did not ask for a referendum from their oppressors before they demanded freedom."

Responding, Mr Neil wrote: “So Scots’ current condition is to be compared to Mandela’s long years in jail under an oppressive apartheid regime?

“Truly the Christmas Sherry has been drained dry.”

The media veteran also mocked Scottish comedian and broadcaster Hardeep Singh Kohli – a Scottish independence supporter – after he launched a separate us and them attack on Twitter.

Commenting on the Brexit deal and the attitude of Boris Johnson’s Tories on Scottish interests, Mr Kohli tweeted: "Look South. Tell me this.

“Do they represent us in any way, shape or form?

“They are not us and we are not them. It’s not about economics. It’s not about sovereignty. It’s not even about politics. It’s about morality, integrity and humanity.

"They are not us and we are not them."

Mr Neil responded: “So Scots have superior morality, integrity and humanity to the English? When did that happen?”

Do you genuinely think people make it up BidensWingWoman?

The express is the most anti-scottish paper out there. They will dig up anything that they can to discredit anything that is pro-independence.

Anyone that wants balanced news needs to give it a wide berth.

But having said that, I don't think many would compare the oppression experienced in South Africa to the situation in Scotland. I certainly wouldn't, and Neil's criticism was entirely fair.

As far as Kohli goes, I am not convinced he was trying to suggest that Scots are superior, merely different. But I'm not in his head so can't say for sure.

Do you genuinely think people make it up BidensWingWoman?

Make it up? No. Not at all. I've already said that racism exists here.

Exaggerate it for their own political purposes? Absolutely.

As is evidenced by the ridiculous claim that Sturgeon can't bring herself to say 'Oxford'. Fwiw, the video I posted was the first one to show up when I'm searched on Google.

What surprises me is where racism bubbles up unexpectedly.

Twenty years ago I worked in a solicitors office and there was a lovely middle-aged woman there, courteous, kind, gentle manner, softly-spoken.

One Monday morning she came in and told us about how she’d been in a shop at the weekend and “there was this English bitch and I kept hearing her voice. I really felt like smacking her in the face.”

I just didn’t expect it. Not coming from her.

My late father was an SNP and I know he wasn’t racist.

I just feel that things have changed lately in Scotland for the worse. Especially since the referendum. I don’t know that I’d continue to live here if we went independent.

These threads,the peurile name calling,all proof sturgeon is getting it right
I observe the misogyny,name calling,derision and I’m glad FM makes such people uncomfortable . When feeling challenged the best some of you come up with is nicknames. It’s very reassuring that all the bams are riled by Ms Sturgeon, means she’s getting it right.

PS
I call her First Minister
Ms Sturgeon
Because that’s her name.

“The Racism Lurking Behind Scottish Nationalism”

unherd.com/2020/05/the-racism-lurking-behind-scottish-nationalism/

Well said!

Having worked down the road,I can also say discrimination/prejudice to Scottish people, is very much active. Both covert and overt

Discrimination and prejudice isn’t about locations it’s about that type of people
And unfortunately such people live all over the place.
Let’s not pretend prejudice is a Scottish thing. It’s simply a UK thing

His experience of Scottish racism is of keyboard warriors on Twitter. That's not really a true representation of people here, in my opinion.

I wonder if he wrote an equivalent article about racism in England around the time of Brexit? Because he would have actual lived experience to draw on there.

And I find it interesting that he is so against another referendum if the people that would no longer be associated with his country are so awful? Not to mention that his organisation, Quilliam, seeks to reduce cultural insularity - and you'd think that Scottish rejoining the EU would help promote that?

Maajid Nawaz has really gone off the deep end recently. Ranting on his radio show and supporting Trumpian conspiracy theories.

Let’s not pretend prejudice is a Scottish thing. It’s simply a UK thing

It's worldwide, let's be honest. But yeah, I know someone who's brother has moved back after being in London for thirty years, because of the huge rise in anti-scottish abuse he was getting down there.

But I'm not so blinkered at to think that means all or even most English are anti-Scottish.