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To ask what impacts of brexit you have seen in your day to day life?

422 replies

Bregxit · 16/02/2021 11:48

Any whether good or bad
Yabu-yes I have
Yanbu-no I haven’t

OP posts:
snowydaysandholidays · 16/02/2021 18:54

I would say for sure that I would not have agreed with the EU ordering the vaccines for the UK as an act of unity and for political purposes. I feel very sorry for normal Europeans that have been basically told their life is secondary to that of the EU Comission.
No way could I bear to see deaths piling up and the destruction of our economy just so the EU commission could prove their point. So I now think I would have hesitated and reconsidered voting remain if the referendum was for instance next year, I am not sure I could sign up for anything that lacked such integrity.

So in some ways this has been a very much an eye opener and not a good one. I say this as someone that has lived in Europe for over a decade, and I very much feel part of the European fabric.

I don't think you can put politics before lives ever, and get away with it. So I am not massively sad to have left now.

Thimbleberries · 16/02/2021 18:56

Lots of the stuff isn't available here. German and Dutch bike parts, for example, so much better quality and choice than English. And also they fit with what we already have. And many other similar, less trivial examples. there was much better choice and quality from companies in Germany in particular. Music as well, several very specialist instrument makers and music sellers that I can't buy anymore without huge taxes.

Actually the bigger things are sometimes easy to get as it's worth the companies' while to bother to export. But it's all the little things that made our lives easier and more interesting that are harder to get when we're just restricted to poor quality and limited choice locally.

Massive impact on the people I know who are musicians whose careers involved them touring to Europe. the permits are beyond ridiculous in terms of cost and bureaucracy. Many of these people are having to give up and find other jobs, as they just can't sustain being a musician any longer. That makes our own cultural environment poorer, and doesn't bode well for the future, and there is little point in children looking towards music as a career any longer. This damages our homegrown orchestras and ensembles just as much.

ZenNudist · 16/02/2021 18:59

It's amazing how many people believe we have vaccine because Brexit. There is no way we would not have secured access to UK developed vaccine even if in the EU. We are far too fond if British exceptionalism.

What is surprising is that Germany and France haven't done the same. Especially Germany must have better access to the Pfizer jab than say, Slovenia.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 16/02/2021 19:03

Extra funding for a project at work. That will create 5 jobs in my team alone and hundreds across the organisation.

Iflyaway · 16/02/2021 19:04

"It is surely the philosophy behind having an EU in the first place."

I thought the philosophy behind the EU came out of WWII.

Insertfunnyname · 16/02/2021 19:06

@jasjas1973 actually before Covid-19, the EU left health policy to national governments. However, Brussels took charge of vaccine procurement in the summer of 2020, as part of what Von der Leyen called a “European Health Union” in her September “State of the Union” address.

Member states were free to opt out of this supranational scheme, but none did so so the chances are very high the U.K. would have been involved.

If we’d had a labour govt would have been even more likely. it was Labour policy in 2018 to remain part of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) and “adhere to the EU regulatory framework”

In July Labour Front bencher Catherine West described the UK’s decision to opt-out of the eu procurement scheme as “dumber and dumber”.

Labour’s Paul Blomfield from May 2020: “Backing the EU initiative for a coronavirus vaccine is a positive step”

I can easily believe that it’s likely we’d have been part of it.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/02/2021 19:07

@snowydaysandholidays

I would say for sure that I would not have agreed with the EU ordering the vaccines for the UK as an act of unity and for political purposes. I feel very sorry for normal Europeans that have been basically told their life is secondary to that of the EU Comission. No way could I bear to see deaths piling up and the destruction of our economy just so the EU commission could prove their point. So I now think I would have hesitated and reconsidered voting remain if the referendum was for instance next year, I am not sure I could sign up for anything that lacked such integrity.

So in some ways this has been a very much an eye opener and not a good one. I say this as someone that has lived in Europe for over a decade, and I very much feel part of the European fabric.

I don't think you can put politics before lives ever, and get away with it. So I am not massively sad to have left now.

Every EU country had the choice to join the EU procurement process or not.

It wasn’t mandatory.

derxa · 16/02/2021 19:08

I can easily believe that it’s likely we’d have been part of it. I agree.

strawberriesatmypicnic · 16/02/2021 19:09

I had an order from France that still hasn't been dispatched 17 working days later. They won't refund so will likely have to go through my bank next week for a refund.

purplecorkheart · 16/02/2021 19:11

Other than my online shopping not much, in fact probably making less impulse buys as I am scrolling past advertisement on facebook etc that I would have clicked on. I haven't noticed any changes in the Supermarket bar a pack of jaffa cakes bars going up €0.10. The only thing that stood out to me was how much paperwork a member of staff in the post office had to fill in when I sent a €2 item to the UK. I do think a lot of issues will become more apparent when COVID restrictions will be lifted.

SinkGirl · 16/02/2021 19:12

@Tootsey11

I live in Ni.

Ordinary parcels taking longer to arrive.
Cannot get seeds, plants etc delivered from the rest of the UK.
Amazon won't sell us vitamins, pet products etc
Lots of busineses including a family member cannot not get products sent from UK, his business relies on these.
Places like Dunelm The Range etc won't deliver larger products, they just cancel your order.

Brexit was remain or leave.
Brexit was not remain or half leave. I don't remember the option of staying half in and half out.
This is a load of shit that no one agreed to.

Nobody agreed to anything specific because nobody know what arrangements would be made and agreed.

You’d rather a no deal scenario?

jasjas1973 · 16/02/2021 19:17

@Insertfunnyname

Possibly but had remain won, Cameron would have still been PM leading up to the GE in May 2020 (last GE in 2015 & FTPA)

Due to the pandemic, the May GE would have had to have been postponed.

The UK has stayed out of many EU programs or withdrawn when they wanted too.

I suspect because the Oxf vaccine was a UK concern, we'd have wanted to keep it to ourselves but its an unknown.

yearinyearout · 16/02/2021 19:22

Various things run out at the supermarket (but not covid related stuff like loo roll)

Have two parcels are stuck, one was a return on its way back to Germany and it's been at the sorting hub over there for several weeks, it's replacement is stuck at the hub in the UK (and I've paid for both!)

Tootsey11 · 16/02/2021 19:28

@SinkGirl living in Northern Ireland we are still part of the UK, yet we cannot buy things from the rest of the UK.

Boris bloody Johnson agreed to this. Why would anyone agree to rules laid out by the EU, that don't even affect them. I cannot purchase a packet of seeds and have them delivered in an envelope because the EU says I'm not allowed. They may be not be safe or contaminated or dangerous. The same bloody seeds came to me a few months earlier with no problems.

It was out or in. Why on earth leave any of us half in and half out, it was all of us out or all of us in. The people were not told some of us would be left dangling and leaving a lot of businesses struggling unable to source alternative suppliers.

DioneTheDiabolist · 16/02/2021 19:30

At this rate I can see people in the UK being forced to buy from other people in the UK. That will be awful won't it.

@LastTrainEast people in the UK can't buy from other people in the UK at the minute.Hmm

BaileysforBreakfast · 16/02/2021 19:32

Yes lord forbid we should become more self sufficient as a country. We might actually have to start making and growing more things.
We have not been self-sufficient for many decades (centuries by some measures). We do not have sufficient land to grow enough food to feed the entire population and we are not self-sufficient in raw materials to 'start making' things. Toilet paper is an excellent example of this. So, shall we plant more forests and have enough wood pulp to have toilet paper, or shall we cut down the forests and plant more foodstuffs?

isitfridayyet1 · 16/02/2021 19:39

To all those thinking we got the vaccine quicker because we are out of Europe are totally WRONG the Uk had the power to negotiate those contacts whether or not we were in the Eu. It's just that other Eu countries chose to band together when it came to procurement of vaccines and that's where the downfall came.

Please get your facts right before praising Brexit for vaccines. I think the organisation skills of the nhs and local health authorities have more to do with the fast roll out than brexit and Boris Johnson.

baffledcoconut · 16/02/2021 19:41

Cannot get supplies for my business as they all come from Europe. The import levies will be too high if and when they can sort it out. It’s shit.

DynamoKev · 16/02/2021 19:45

@TiggerBounci

Xenophobia everywhere.

@DynamoKev why on earth would you question someone's experience of something similar to racism? Weird motive.

Because I am genuinely interested to hear of experiences outside my own, and curious to know how this has manifested itself in the poster's everyday life. I understand you probably aren't interested in hearing about anything outside your own bubble which makes you question my question - but I'm just asking for more information, that's all.
TheCatThatGotTheCream · 16/02/2021 19:54

None really. Wracking my brains here, the only thing I've noticed different is that I had to put a label with my address on the back of a package that I was sending UK - Ireland; the post office staff member advised that this is now because of Brexit. I don't really send many packages so not sure if this is correct.

Justa47 · 16/02/2021 19:54

@Bregxit

To many and to deep to name. As the stupidity is done.

TheCatThatGotTheCream · 16/02/2021 19:55

@BaileysforBreakfast

Yes lord forbid we should become more self sufficient as a country. We might actually have to start making and growing more things. We have not been self-sufficient for many decades (centuries by some measures). We do not have sufficient land to grow enough food to feed the entire population and we are not self-sufficient in raw materials to 'start making' things. Toilet paper is an excellent example of this. So, shall we plant more forests and have enough wood pulp to have toilet paper, or shall we cut down the forests and plant more foodstuffs?
Perhaps Brexit will be an incentive to become more productive and inventive? More self sufficient?
HunterHearstHelmsley · 16/02/2021 19:56

The only difference I've noticed in the supermarket is that I can't find floss sticks anywhere.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/02/2021 20:00

Got EU passport for dd. Dh and I now dual having spent a few thousand for docs, passing exams, jumping through hoops and travelling to London, hotel costs etc.

GintyMcGinty · 16/02/2021 20:07

None that I've noticed.

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