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To ask if you would put child forward for the vaccine trial?

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coulditbeanymorerubbish · 13/02/2021 09:30

So the Oxford vaccine is now to be tested in children as young as six. Would you put your child up for for children?

Everyone calling others stupid for not wanting it can now volunteer their kids! Because, you know... you're so confident that it's perfectly safe and the right thing to do.

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Fembot123 · 13/02/2021 11:01

@GoJetterGirl

* Today 10:18 MaLarkinn

Not a chance!

I can't believe people would volunteer their child to be a guinea pig.

You don't deserve them.
If I’d have taken that attitude to some of the trials my 7 year old son went on for his cancer treatment then no treatment tigress and development would ever have been made that may (hopefully not tho) prevent one of your children dying from cancer the way my child did!

Oh @GoJetterGirl ❤️😨
CavernousScream · 13/02/2021 11:02

covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/childrens-trial

Unfortunately we aren’t in one of the trial areas so can’t sign up.

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coulditbeanymorerubbish · 13/02/2021 11:02

@Cornettoninja you were the one assuming I was going out of my way to offend people by using the phrase guinea pigs.

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Cornettoninja · 13/02/2021 11:04

But you did offend people. I didn’t have to assume anything, it’s there in black and white.

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coulditbeanymorerubbish · 13/02/2021 11:05

@TheCatThatGotTheCream those at risk yes, I said routine. If the benefits outweigh the risks then of course, however I'm not an at risk person.

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coulditbeanymorerubbish · 13/02/2021 11:07

@Cornettoninja please point me to a post from another poster that suggests I've offended them? Or are you mixing me up with the poster who said people don't deserve their children? Because I certainly didn't say that.

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ginnybag · 13/02/2021 11:07

Yes, I would if she agreed

We were part of Novavax, but that was adults only.

Given they're querying heart damage even for people who are asymptomatic, that's a (potential) big game changer for the kids don't suffer mandate.

Even without that, though, the impact on kids has been huge. Get them vaccinated and they get their lives back.

Camomila · 13/02/2021 11:08

I wouldn't volunteer DS1 who always has quite bad/strong reactions to vaccines (and is 4 anyway)

But I'd happily volunteer myself to get a vaccine while bf DS2 has he barely reacted to any of his baby jabs.

Phphion · 13/02/2021 11:10

Yes, I would.

DD has been taking part in a long running vaccine trial since she was a baby. She has a slightly increased risk of an adverse reaction but not such an increased risk that it outweighs the benefits of being vaccinated. As well as it being a good thing for society, it benefits her because she has her vaccines in the very best conditions possible with proper monitoring by professionals.

Oysterbabe · 13/02/2021 11:13

[quote coulditbeanymorerubbish]@Cornettoninja please point me to a post from another poster that suggests I've offended them? Or are you mixing me up with the poster who said people don't deserve their children? Because I certainly didn't say that.[/quote]
Well saying we're allowing our children to be Guinea pigs is very rude. You're suggesting that I was careless and happy to let people experiment on her. When I agreed for my child to take part in research it was because I read all the information available on it, decided it was safe and that it could help other children in the future.

Ethelfromnumber73 · 13/02/2021 11:15

[quote coulditbeanymorerubbish]@unmarkedbythat my point is I want more children and I'm not going to have anything injected that doesn't have any evidence for or against.

Couldn't give a shit about a third ear, my priority is fertility.[/quote]
The fertility thing came about because 'the internet' claimed that the Covid spike protein is a bit similar to a placental protein, therefore having antibodies to the spike protein through vaccination might affect the ability to maintain a pregnancy. This has now been debunked by immunologists as the proteins are not actually that similar in immunological terms meaning that antibodies to the spike protein are specific. Further evidence for this is that Covid infection (which also causes the body to raise antibodies to the spike protein) has no known effects on fertility . It has been very effective antivaxx propaganda though because it is widely being quoted as fact

PhilCornwall1 · 13/02/2021 11:17

Theres nothing to say it won't make you spontaneously grow a third ear in 11 years time, either. Nothing to suggest it will, but no way to rule it out.

The AZ one has and I quote (well, just waiting for the "Source?" posters) "replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus", so I'm just waiting to develop an unhealthy interest in bananas.

TheCatThatGotTheCream · 13/02/2021 11:20

@coulditbeanymorerubbish yes, I know you said routine. Regardless, I'm simply saying that the worry wasn't in regards to fertilty in the first place, it was more the risk to the unborn child...

Hetilia · 13/02/2021 11:21

I'm not offended by your comments op, but really waiting until other children have participated in the trials so you can assess the damage to them, before deciding if your own super precious bundle gets a vaccine is a pretty unpleasant thing to put here. I want my children to be vaccinated so that life can get back to some kind of normal for us all. And there is fear involved, obviously, but we can't all be locked away and isolated in our homes for ever. And participating in the trials benefits everyone, even people like you. Be a little more respectful about that fact.

PatButchersRightEarring · 13/02/2021 11:23

Yes I would. The vaccine is SAFE for children just like it is for adults. We just don’t know how effective it is in that age group and whether we should be developing a slightly different vaccine for them, just like we do for flu, to increase its effectiveness.

I am absolutely not trying to make a point about the vaccine as a whole.

Of course you are Biscuit

HazeyJaneII · 13/02/2021 11:23

@CavernousScream

covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/childrens-trial

Unfortunately we aren’t in one of the trial areas so can’t sign up.

Thankyou for posting the link @CavernousScream I just checked to see if dds could be entered, but we are in the wrong area, and obviously ds can't be anyway.
alpenguin · 13/02/2021 11:25

If I was aware of the risks and felt they were worth taking and my child agreed then yes I would allow them to take part in the trial.

I despair at people willing to sacrifice other people’s kids to test something is safe for their own or relying on everyone else being vaccinated to protect their most precious things. It sums up the UK for me right now. Let the poor kids try it first because their lives are less important than mine... rule Britannia etc 🙄

OverTheRainbow88 · 13/02/2021 11:26

I would give it a lot of thought and probably would.

I assume those saying no would then not want their children to be vaccinated a year down the line then?

Thislittlefinger123 · 13/02/2021 11:28

No, probably not. But only because I won't be getting my children vaccinated for covid. As the risks to them are (imo) non existent so wouldn't take up the offer of a vaccine. DH and I will get vaccinated when/if it's offered to our age group.
I'm not anti vaccinations at all, but I would only get my DC vaccinated against things that are a risk to them personally.

Cornettoninja · 13/02/2021 11:28

[quote coulditbeanymorerubbish]@Cornettoninja please point me to a post from another poster that suggests I've offended them? Or are you mixing me up with the poster who said people don't deserve their children? Because I certainly didn't say that.[/quote]
Every poster whose taken the time to defend their stance (often using personal experience) without using the phrase guinea pig should tell you something.

I’m offended, or don’t I count? (I suspect I don’t since you’ve already attempted to put me down with a made-up fact about me). I’m offended that people who take a risk for other peoples benefit are reduced to a rodent. You owe these people respect and gratitude, not belittling name calling.

You’ve even admitted you want other people to take risks so you can make a decision on how it will affect you personally. Apparently your happy for people to be ‘guinea pigs’ just not in a controlled clincical environment.

gallbladderpain · 13/02/2021 11:28

Yes I would but my child is already on medication off licence that is not approved for children so essentially being a guinea pig already.

lockeddownandcrazy · 13/02/2021 11:28

I'd have it and my kids would asap. Any hypothetical effects are outweighed by the main aim of getting normality back into everyones lives once most people are vaccinated.

Thislittlefinger123 · 13/02/2021 11:29

I assume those saying no would then not want their children to be vaccinated a year down the line then?

No I won't, no. They're primary age so at no risk (imo).

atThecrossroad · 13/02/2021 11:32

@Thislittlefinger123

I assume those saying no would then not want their children to be vaccinated a year down the line then?

No I won't, no. They're primary age so at no risk (imo).

If there were trials and it all went well then yes I would then have my child vaccinated

Just because you don’t want to participate in a trial you shouldn’t then be excluded from receiving whatever the trial was for !

Ismellphantoms · 13/02/2021 11:33

Yes. I was on the polio vaccine trial as a child.