To ask if you would put child forward for the vaccine trial?

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So the Oxford vaccine is now to be tested in children as young as six. Would you put your child up for for children?

Everyone calling others stupid for not wanting it can now volunteer their kids! Because, you know... you're so confident that it's perfectly safe and the right thing to do.

My sons are 16 now. So it would be their decision. But if they were younger - yes, absolutely. A good friend's daughter was part of a trial for an ebola vaccine, as was she, and I still think it's one of the finest things a human can do.

Yes - assuming they wanted to (they’re 15 and 16 and entitled to an opinion on such things).

@Tryingtryingandtrying look into Pfizer and other big pharmaceutical companies history of testing on children. They went to Nigeria and tested a new antibiotic on children without consent and out of 200 children 50 died and many more suffered lasting side effects. Plus they were found guilty of throwing the trail to favour the new antibiotic they had developed. Bottom line is they are ruthless and don't care as long as they are making money.

I mean, we have no idea about the long-term effects of covid on children either. Diabetes UK discuss the possibility that it triggers Type 1 Diabetes in children (‘mixed evidence’, but by the time we do know it’ll be too late to do anything about it).

They also raise the possibility that coronavirus could perhaps lead to a new type of diabetes by directly damaging the pancreas, based on research establishing that covid invades and attacks the pancreas cells. Again, research is at an early stage here, but ‘not knowing’ the effects doesn’t signify that there are none.

So there are unknowns either way. The decision not to put your children forward is understandable and a private matter, but I applaud anyone who does.

I would, although I would discuss it with her and see her views, obviously I’m not going to do it if she’s dead against it.

But I am fortunate in that one of the lead researchers in the Oxford vaccine is a childhood friend, we have known each other since we were six and I know she would would never do anything she felt was potentially harmful. She understands the science and the risks far far better than I do, so I trust her and if she is happy for the trials with kids to go ahead then I will happily volunteer my daughter.

In reality I know enough about science and vaccines to know that the risk to my daughter would be very very small.

I don’t live in the uk though, so we can’t take part. But I would if we were at home right now.

Got to love all the anti-vax Karen's on here who will find any little tiny media speculation and ignore any science or research paper to justify their position. They are probably the same people who are "suffocating" from wearing masks in shops, tearing/ ripping the mask off their faces once they are near a door and practically needing smelling salts to recover from the horror of a flimsy bit of fabric over their faces, whilst falsely claiming to be exempt and having hysterical screaming/ shouting sessions with retail staff.

Some CEV children have been shut away in their homes for the best part of a year. Unable to attend school or medical treatment. Their families terrified of them getting it and ending up in hospital. A vaccine is their way out of this restricted life, or at least a chance to have a bit more freedom.

Teenagers are generally rather intelligent human beings who are able to articulate their choices and give reasons for this. If teenagers want to be vaccinated or take part in trials they should be allowed to.

Yes absolutely!

@Snazzles2020

Got to love all the anti-vax Karen's on here who will find any little tiny media speculation and ignore any science or research paper to justify their position. They are probably the same people who are "suffocating" from wearing masks in shops, tearing/ ripping the mask off their faces once they are near a door and practically needing smelling salts to recover from the horror of a flimsy bit of fabric over their faces, whilst falsely claiming to be exempt and having hysterical screaming/ shouting sessions with retail staff.

Some CEV children have been shut away in their homes for the best part of a year. Unable to attend school or medical treatment. Their families terrified of them getting it and ending up in hospital. A vaccine is their way out of this restricted life, or at least a chance to have a bit more freedom.

Teenagers are generally rather intelligent human beings who are able to articulate their choices and give reasons for this. If teenagers want to be vaccinated or take part in trials they should be allowed to.

Rather an anti-vaxxer than an ageist misogynist .

Do you realise that most pharmaceuticals are not licensed for use in children but doctors still prescribe them if the child needs them.

The vaccine trials are to see the efficacy of a safe vaccine to see if it’s worth immunising children. It’s not like testing it with a risk of death

@Invisiblewoman1 that’s not entirely true - most everyday meds prescribed by a GP are licensed for children. It’s only when you get to more specialised consultant prescribed / shared-care meds that you start to see more unlicensed use. In our case getting a triptan prescribed for our teenager was difficult.

I agree with your vaccine statement though.

I totally don't get the routine use of the name Karen as an insult. Especially on this site.

@Tryingtryingandtrying

I totally don't get the routine use of the name Karen as an insult. Especially on this site.

Must admit I skip posts as soon as I see it. My 14 yr old knows better than to use it as an insult. Seeing it from adults is weird.

I ignore any of the content if I see ‘Karen’ ‘Snowflake’ or ‘Covidiot’ all of the same ilk IMO.

HikeForward

“The vaccine side effects were very unpleasant, I wouldn’t put a child through that unless it had been proven to be safe and effective in children“

Proven how, exactly?

But the same could be said for letting them catch Covid. Is still take a chance on a vaccine rolled out to millions of people with no deaths than a virus that has proved to kill and disable people

Hey if your cool with your kid doing it, knock yourself out
Im not and not just corona vax trials but any medical trial.
Id not even take part in any trial myself unless i was terminal and its all just last hope stuff