To think that there's something more to these famous women's dramatic weight losses?

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Over the last year or so, I've seen Adele, Rebel Wilson and Kelly Osbourne dramatically lose weight. They look amazing, and completely different. It's in their faces too. Is there some new kind of weight loss surgery going around, or is it really just diet and exercise? I love all these women no matter what their size, and I struggle with weight loss myself and admire them for being healthy and looking incredibly fit. But is something going on that's not available to the masses? (no pun intended)

@Sapho47 my point is that with money, you just need to have the will power to set the plan in motion, appoint the staff and give them their instructions. It is easy to do that once, especially if you aren't particularly hungry at at time

The will power to say no to the snacks in the larder every single day when you are sorting out food for the family yourself, feeling ravenous, and have no way of cutting yourself off from easy access to extra calories is a totally different order of magnitude of will power, much harder to achieve.

Adele hasn't lost weight quickly though, compare her to when 19 came out - 21 - 25 - now and you'll see she's been dropping weight for as long as she's been famous. Her final reveal was quite dramatic because she isn't seen or photographed that often these days. She also didn't claim healthy food and exercise, she specified the sirtfood diet, which is quite restrictive, and tons of working out. I think she's perfectly believable.

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I thought I wouldn’t completely shock my body by going straight into, dry january, walking every day, eating well and no crisps, biscuits, cake and chocolate 😀

Poor thing would just lie down and refuse to get up...I obviously don’t eat all those things every day!

I’d be a lot thinner if I could afford private exercise facilities, if I had the time to exercise because I had no chores to do, if I didn’t have to cook for others, if I wasn’t stressed from having to do drudgery every day, if I was wealthy and happy and not self-medicating with comfort food because I’m poor and unhappy. Money factors into health and weight in a lot of ways.

Wow I thought when my Mum used to joke about 'needing her jaw wired shut' after a diet it was just a joke, not a real medical option. How did I not know this was a thing? Fuck that I would much rather be fat!

I lost 5 stone in 9 months a couple of years ago, purely through diet. Low carb, low sugar, 1200 calories a day. That was it, no surgery, no team of minions, no gyms. I've kept it of pretty easily by eating healthily and staying active.

It is entirely possible, you just have to actually want it and be prepared to do what it takes.

A lot of proper Hollywood stars- exercising and dieting IS their job, I think J-Lo spends 3/4 hours exercising a day and will have a nutritionist/chef as well.

If you have to fit dieting/exercising around a busy job and children of course it's harder, I've only been able to find the time now my children are a bit older and I can leave them in the house by themselves, and now I've got a bit more of the emotional and physical energy needed to resist overeating.

I think I read Adele had hypnotherapy. And Kelly Osborne has had surgery, that’s been widely reported.

Many posters on here who don’t seem to realise that weight is intricately tied up with mental health, and there can be strong emotional and psychological barriers to losing weight.

It’s not easy for anyone to lose weight, but some can do it by willpower and eating healthily, exercising etc. These people are able to maintain the consistency of approach required. For others, the eating is tangled with deep psychological issues, and these people don’t have a hope of losing large amounts of weight and keeping it off until those issues are addressed and resolved. It can take a fair while in therapy to get to that place.

It’s not as simple as saying if X people can lose weight, then everyone can by doing the same thing, unfortunately. Some people need to do quite a bit more for success.

you just have to actually want it and be prepared to do what it takes.

See, there are people who really really desperately want it, and yet aren’t able to, because at a subconscious level there are barriers. Those barriers need to be removed first, but that isn’t going to happen just through knowing what they need to do. Or trying/willpower.

Many posters on here who don’t seem to realise that weight is intricately tied up with mental health, and there can be strong emotional and psychological barriers to losing weight.

Oh, most people get it. They may not agree that the solution is cutting away most of the stomach, though.

@Totallydefeated

you just have to actually want it and be prepared to do what it takes.

See, there are people who really really desperately want it, and yet aren’t able to, because at a subconscious level there are barriers. Those barriers need to be removed first, but that isn’t going to happen just through knowing what they need to do. Or trying/willpower.

That removing of the barriers (which most of us has at some level) IS a part of doing what it takes. Doing what it takes doesn't simply mean just eat less or something like that. It means to deal with how, why, when.

I've lost 2stone on 1800 calories a day, it has taken a while, longer than my usual starve myself then gradually put it all back on routine.

I am now in the healthy bmi range (just! am 5ft 7 and a size 12 now) and weight loss really slowed so upped exercise and now eating 1900 cals per day and it is coming off again but I do expect to have to drop to 1700 at some point to get the final stone off.

These specific women? No idea.

But in general, being able to lose weight and maintain a fit and toned body is the ease of having lots of disposable income and iron will. They will be able to afford dieticians, personal trainers, home staff to shop for them, chefs etc.

However even in the real world to lose such a large amount of weight in a small amount of time and achieve that body again would need a lot of disposable income/strong will. Healthy food is expensive, gym memberships/exercise equipment etc.

It’s easier to lose weight in a far less drastic way on a far lower income.

It is entirely possible, you just have to actually want it and be prepared to do what it takes.

I disagree with this - and also lost 60lbs last year (as above).

Weight loss is a complicated mix of calories, hormones and mental state of mind. It's also very personal and so to say I lost 60lbs with some ease is not to say someone else would find it as easy - for all sorts of health, pyschological and environmental reasons.

I find the idea that someone who struggles to do this just doesn't want it enough to be totally alien to my own experience. There are times in my life where I wanted nothing more, but failed. This time, I genuinely started without daring to hope at all and kind of fell into it.

Success or failure at weight loss, in my experience, bears absolutely no relation to how motivated I was or how much willpower I had - unless it's to say that the MORE willpower I had to use, the more likely I was to fail.

If I had the money for a personal chef and personal trainer I'd be fit as anything.

Most of my poor eating choices come from being time poor and stressed. I can tell when I've been through a hectic period at work because it shows in my waistline!

Maybe they have had surgery, but frankly having the facilities to eat healthily (whether that's time, money, or literal kitchen facilities) and having the facilities to exercise (again, whether that's time, money to pay for gyms, or access to areas to exercise) will get you a hell of a long way.

People can do what they need to to lose weight. I don't think they should wang on about diet and exercise if that's not how they did it though.

Doing what it takes doesn't simply mean just eat less or something like that. It means to deal with how, why, when.

This resonates with me. I think it is massively underestimated how much these foundations are part of the process. And how complicated and difficult they can be to lay them right.

Plenty of good quality sleep, low stress levels and a healthy sense of self worth are, in my experience, really important starting points - and for lots of people these feel way out of reach to the point where they are lost as to how to start.

Medication, surgery, personal chef, personal trainer, access to top quality mental health as disordered eating often has a deeper reason.

I'm currently on a weight loss journey, and recognise I'm lucky to be able to afford monthly medication $100, training $240, therapy gap $50. It's basically $400 a month on what I need to lose the weight (everyone is different). First time this is working and working well. I can only imagine what it is like for someone with serious money behind them.

Fair play to people here who have managed to do it just through tracking cals.

@Sapho47

Well there's that new weight loss pill that suppresses appetite and is having lots of success.

Which must be very awkward for the "its muh genetics" crowd.

Why would medication being successful contradict the idea that genetics is involved in tendency to gain weight? This doesn't make sense, there are lots of genetically driven illnesses that respond to medication.

I think you need to have a long hard look at your prejudices there.

Doing what it takes doesn't simply mean just eat less or something like that. It means to deal with how, why, when.

Agree Schrodinger, my point is a lot of people are unaware that the psychological aspect is key - they simply view it as a matter of willpower v laziness/greediness/being thick, and speak as such. And judge others - and sometimes themselves- as such. Case in point - many of the posts on this thread.

Also, if the issues are really deep in the subconscious it can be really hard to deal with them effectively yourself without professional help, no matter how desperately you may want to. And not everybody has the funds for that, or the awareness of how it could help.

@Totallydefeated 100% agree. Intellectually I understand how losing weight works and the importance of being at a healthy weight, but through therapy I've started to discover what is subconsciously driving my disordered eating. And learning through CBT new healthy behaviours.

Plenty of good quality sleep, low stress levels and a healthy sense of self worth are, in my experience, really important starting points - and for lots of people these feel way out of reach to the point where they are lost as to how to start

Agree Wobbly , these are all foundational. But not always as easy to achieve as they sound. At the moment, in lockdown trying to homeschool for 6 hours a day plus do a full time 8-10 hour a day job, I have no way of achieving enough sleep or carving out enough time to properly de stress, for example. I’m not actually overweight or trying to lose, but my lifestyle isn’t healthy at the moment, through no fault of my own, all the factors making it so are currently external.

That’s great Neon, sounds like you’re well on your way to making this a change for life.

I have the opposite with money issue around because I recognised that I can workout in my living room just fine (many people mention gym costs) and... Ashamed to say but my shopping bill is lower now because I am not eating like 2 people I am actually saving by it all.

@Totallydefeated I have never seen anyone here say anything like that fat people would be thick. Except fat people.