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Whilst Biden and Harris are busy doing their jobs, there's an Impeachment Hearing going on... (#125)

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Roussette · 10/02/2021 23:44

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minou123 · 13/02/2021 19:09

House managers are being a little naughty here showing new videos.

I understand why they are doing it, but it has been ruled that no new evidence can be shown.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/02/2021 19:12

I'm just catching up on the latest from the impeachment trial on here and from what I've read, I believe the Democrats would not want to risk blocking the work of the House by spinning this out with arguments over witnesses, and subpoenas, given that the result is a foregone conclusion. As a couple of people have mentioned earlier in the thread, I think, this impeachment has not had the intention of getting the GOP to vote agains their own interests by finding Trump guilty, but the House Impeachment Managers clearly wanted to show the world exactly what Trump and his minions had done. Even if I were a die-hard Republican, having seen those videos, there is no way I would re-elect a GOP representative who had voted that Trump was not guilty, as that person would be clearly demonstrating they had no respect for their electorate, nor for democracy, but just for themselves.

Roussette · 13/02/2021 19:14

Jai Totally agree

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QuestionableDanceMoves · 13/02/2021 19:17

How can there be such uncertainty over what’s in the record and what isn’t?
Surely they should know?

QuestionableDanceMoves · 13/02/2021 19:21

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom I agree. I suspect there was great concern, and maybe confirmation from senior Republicans, that if witnesses were called the Senate would be stalled on all issues.

I would hope that the compelling evidence against Trump has made some of his base question his guilt and not support anyone who voted to acquit him.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 13/02/2021 19:28

I hope also Trump's abandonment of those charged also puts some off. But who are they going to rally around next?

minou123 · 13/02/2021 19:36

OK, another very shallow moment from me.

I love Joe Neguse. I may be having day dreams about marrying him.

Roussette · 13/02/2021 19:49

Neguse is wonderful! mine is Castro

Isn't it amazing that the defence can come across as the aggrieved party, picked on, nothing to do with us, how dare they, we did nothing

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minou123 · 13/02/2021 19:53

According to the defence their closing statement will be short, hopefully less than 30 mins.

Roussette · 13/02/2021 19:59

They are saying the Democrats attacked everything about American democracy since the Election. Why haven't I seen this?

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minou123 · 13/02/2021 20:00

We must have been in an alternative universe, with alternative facts.

QuestionableDanceMoves · 13/02/2021 20:03

Hate all this false equivalence

Roussette · 13/02/2021 20:03

Weird.

This Van der Veen is attacking Biden, Pelosi and every Democrat and it's hypocrisy that what happened is being investigated and what Trump is being impeached for

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minou123 · 13/02/2021 20:07

Here we go - now its the fake media's fault that rioting happend.

Roussette · 13/02/2021 20:11

'There is no evidence that Trump's words incited this'

hahahaha

It's 'intellectually dishonest' if anyone says different.

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DuncinToffee · 13/02/2021 20:11

John King @JohnKingCNN

from @mkraju:
_Schumer from @mkraju:
_Schumer told managers DEMs would support whatever call re witnesses
_DEM source says post vote managers did not have clear plan
_became clear in talks would have to be equal # witnesses each side
_House Dems cut deal re Lee phone log & Herrera Beutler statementtold managers DEMs would support whatever call re witnesses
_DEM source says post vote managers did not have clear plan
_became clear in talks would have to be equal # witnesses each side
_House Dems cut deal re Lee phone log & Herrera Beutler statement

DuncinToffee · 13/02/2021 20:13

Sorry for the weird and double formatting of that tweet

DuncinToffee · 13/02/2021 20:15

Michael van der Veen is arguing Trump did not incite the riot — again repeating the falsehood that the rioters represented both left and right fringe groups.

Evidence conclusively shows the riot was perpetrated by Trump supporters.

Roussette · 13/02/2021 20:17

All he's doing is attack attack attack. Horrible stuff

I thought he was a defence lawyer?

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DuncinToffee · 13/02/2021 20:18

Kyle Griffin @Kylegriffin1

The personal injury lawyer lies again: He says the Senate could have tried Trump before he left office. McConnell expressly refused to allow the trial to begin while Trump was still in office.

minou123 · 13/02/2021 20:19

This is genuinely awful.

Can he flat out accuse them of fraud? Without any evidence?
What are the repercussions of this?

lionheart · 13/02/2021 20:24

Some suggestions on social media that this is because charges will be filed elsewhere.

minou123 · 13/02/2021 20:27

Has Schoen left????

DuncinToffee · 13/02/2021 20:28

Eli stokols @EliStokols

The lawyer who just blamed BLM for the Jan. 6 insurrection just urged senators to acquit so they can focus on racial equality. Actually.