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Whilst Biden and Harris are busy doing their jobs, there's an Impeachment Hearing going on... (#125)

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Roussette · 10/02/2021 23:44

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DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 21:39

Trump's team just said he was not aware that VP Pence was in danger and had been evacuated from the Senate chamber when he tweeted at 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6 attacking Pence.

But, Sen Tuberville has said on the record that he told Trump on the phone that Pence was being evacuated.

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 21:43

James Hohmann @JamesHohmann

It’s inconvenience that the Secret Service wouldn’t alert Trump that his Vice President had been evacuated. For his own security. The first, second and third in the line of presidential succession were all in grave danger on the afternoon of Jan. 6. It was playing out live on TV.

Roussette · 12/02/2021 21:44

Exactly.

Little ole me in UK knew Pence was in danger, I was watching it live. How they can pretend he would not have known, god alone knows

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ludothedog · 12/02/2021 21:52

Van derby Veen is an angry man isn't he. He's really playing to the camera

Roussette · 12/02/2021 21:53

This bloke is a right twat.

It's all the Dems fault. 'If the election was stolen from the Democrats, all hell would break loose. The American people don't deserve this, acquit'

Pathetic

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DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 21:56

Josh Hawley, along with Kevin Cramer, asks both sides about the Senate’s power and whether it can disqualify a sitting president yet not remove him/her. “No,” van der Veen says before pivoting into an attack against Rep. Castro’s arguments

“That was profoundly inaccurate and irrelevant to what the question is,” Raskin says to van der Veen

NotaRealLawyer · 12/02/2021 21:58

Leahy the "Judge", isn't making Trumps lawyers stick to the question, just letting them bullshit.

Roussette · 12/02/2021 22:01

Van der Veen is a nasty piece of work. Accusatory. No back up to what he is saying

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ludothedog · 12/02/2021 22:02

Have I missed something? What exactly is van derby something going on about? Edited videos? They both did that.

minou123 · 12/02/2021 22:02

Well that answers my question about if the house managers and defence dint gave to answer the question Grin

What you do is, say "yes" or "no" and then spend the rest of your time talking about something irrelevant.
The defence lawyers are more like politicians, than the politicians are!

NotaRealLawyer · 12/02/2021 22:03

Van der Veen is a nasty piece of work, ( and a crap attorney)

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 22:05

“This is about the most miserable experience I’ve had down here in Washington DC” says Trump’s lawyer Michael van der Veen, during response to a Republican question (?) abt whether Trump there has ever been a more pro-Israel president in history than Trump.

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 22:09

Did Trump actually win the election? Bernie Sanders asks

"In my judgment, who asked that? My judgment is irrelevant," van der Veen says.

Audible groans from Democratic side of the aisle.

Roussette · 12/02/2021 22:09

Van der Veen
Hahaha A huge chunk of whataboutery.

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QuestionableDanceMoves · 12/02/2021 22:10

van der Veen is clearly determined not to answer a single question. He doesn’t have to, he knows he has the votes. Not sure why he’s getting so angry when he gets the win without actually having to do anything

Roussette · 12/02/2021 22:16

Wowser
Stacey Plaskett nailing it with the accusation about lack of security forces.

'The POTUS did not defend the capitol of this country'

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QuestionableDanceMoves · 12/02/2021 22:18

Such a shame Merkleys question isn’t to both sides

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 22:21

Critical point by House manager Stacey Plaskett:

If they had any exculpatory evidence, Trump and his defense team could offer it.

But they are not sharing any evidence that would make Trump look less negligent or derelict in his response to the marauders seizing the Capitol.

NotaRealLawyer · 12/02/2021 22:21

Joaquin Castro is going to be a big asset to the Democrats in future years.

BruceAndNosh · 12/02/2021 22:26

I'm glad I'm not married to Van der Veen.
He's an angry sarky man

Roussette · 12/02/2021 22:28

Patronising arse Van der Veen.

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BruceAndNosh · 12/02/2021 22:29

This is the first decent argument VdV has made. Its bollocks but it IS an argument

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 22:32

Ted Cruz was seen coming and going during the break before Q&A into the room where Trump’s defense team was holding. The senator’s question about the legal standard for incitement and the rehearsed answer that followed were clearly coordinated in advance.

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2021 22:33

Trump's defense continues to mispronounce the Vice President's name.

Roussette · 12/02/2021 22:39

This is the ONE question that Defence Van der Veen just cannot answer.

Tuberville took a call from POTUS and told him Pence was being evacuated. 10 mins later Trump still tweeted against Pence.

End of.

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