Actresses - Feel so cross - ruined by plastic surgery

[Thisisnotreallymyname]

Feel so sad - been watching TV and why is it that women ( in the main ) feel the need to absolutely ruin their faces with fillers, Botox, face lifts, to the point where they look deformed, or like they are wearing shiny masks.
Felicity Kendal last night on Graham Norton, Fern Britton on Mastermind, Sally Thomsett on Pointless Celeb........
Do they not see what we see when they look in the mirror ?
I’ve nothing against PSurgery, but my God, please know when to stop !

IABU - they look fine
IANBU -they look awful .

These days aesthetic 'enhancements' are just as common among women in their 30s, so it's not just the preserve of 'older women'. And my mention of Glossier was in reference to someone else saying they're tired of the draggy Instagram aesthetic.

I agree op. It's so sad. I hope Joanna Lumley doesn't do anything else as she is beautiful as she is. I suspect all these fillers have something in to do with the fact that female actresses who work on screen "have" to be so skeletally thin to get work, that their face suffers as a result. (Hence the awful lollipop look.)

Nothing. Nothing at all. It's all PC 'woke' bullshit. As I say, I will ALWAYS call a female an actress, and a male an actor.

Okay, Braveheart.

I have had the opinion for many years that plastic surgery should be for those who have accidents or certain diseases, and nothing I have seen since has changed my opinion one bit. Very sad.

Name one. Some may look more natural than others, but they've all had work done if they're over 45.

Annette Benning possibly?

Mange tout, Rodders, mange tout.

😂🤣

[quote VinylDetective]@tentimesaday. I’m not sure that surgery over 30 years ago counts. This isn’t the face of a woman who’s visited a cosmetic surgeon recently.[/quote]
Wow, that's harsh.

All I'm saying is they've (almost) all had work done. Their face is their livelihood. Simple as that. Some have had it done with more success, or gone for it more cautiously so you cannot really tell.

I totally understand why they do it - the pressure must be immense.

I think it looks ‘realistic’, for want of a better word - for a while.

But you can always end up telling when women have had it done. They get ‘the look’.

For example - Jennifer Anniston always looked incredible for her age. So clearly she was having work done, but you couldn’t obviously tell.

But then once women hit late 40s / 50s, you absolutely can start to tell, because -

• they don’t look like 50 year olds
• they get the distinctive stretched face, almost muppet-like mouth, look. N.B. I don’t mean ‘muppet’ as in ‘you muppet’. I mean that stretched mouth that opens and shuts and doesn’t move and shape words in quite the same way as a regular mouth.

Jennifer Anniston still looks incredible - she’s a beautiful woman. But she looks like a 50-something year old women who’s had plastic surgery.

It’s a tough industry. Women are considered old very early. Consequently, they are under a lot of pressure. Also, I don’t think Felicity Kendal has had much work. If she had, she wouldn’t have so many wrinkles. That is what many older women look like!

"But let me tell you, it's not like most people - men or women - look so fantastic in their sixties and think 'Hm, I'm just going to go screw up my face for no reason'."

But they do look lovely before.

@AnnieSnap

It’s a tough industry. Women are considered old very early. Consequently, they are under a lot of pressure. Also, I don’t think Felicity Kendal has had much work. If she had, she wouldn’t have so many wrinkles. That is what many older women look like!

^This!

I think a bit of Botox in your 50’s if you need it looks fine. However none of my friends who are 50 look it frankly and they’ve not had work.
Unfortunately very few get to 60 without looking middle aged.
And the change when you look in the mirror is horrific. It’s more about what time has done than wanting to be wrinkle or sag free.

I don’t think the rich and famous mind looking bizarre from plastic surgery precisely because it means they don’t look like they used to in their youth.

Yes it’s depressing to think all the money in the world can’t insure against unfortunate results... But nowadays it’s ‘normal’ for 20 year olds to disfigure themselves with filler and Botox. Imagine what that generation is going to look like.
We need better anti ageing solutions.

What we have is shit.

When people stop starting threads on the internet, posting on social media, and writing click bait tabloid articles about women’s looks, describing them as ‘ruined’ then women in the public eye may feel under less scrutiny and less pressure about their looks.

The sort of scrutiny and pressure that probably makes people feel they want or need some sort of treatment/surgery.

I think this reaction is a bit extreme. They haven't made themselves look like monsters they've just had some work done, I hope it makes them happy. People are so brutal about women as we age, cosmetic intervention or not.

They can't win really. They get slated for getting work done. If they try to grow old gracefully, they get slated as well.

Exactly

So if actress is not the right term, what do they now call the sections when Oscar winners are announced?

Can we not use the word waitress? Lioness? Mistress?

I've never understood this either. If 'actress' is by default inferior to 'actor', then does that also mean that 'female/woman/she/mum' are inferior to - or a subset of the 'default/superior' 'male/man/he/dad' ?

I started a thread a while ago which was mainly about acting as a profession and then, as my mind wandered a bit, extended it as a side-question to asking why 'actress' is such an offensive word. I was seized on for having used the main question as a shoe-in for my misogynistic ulterior motive in the side question. I was 'clearly' a MRA, I discovered - not quite sure how many actual MRAs there are out there fighting for women to lose their own female identities and be merged with those of men, but MN can be a very strange place sometimes.

Incidentally, to those who insist that 'actress' is taboo/offensive/sexist - are you honestly saying that you wouldn't be remotely surprised if an acquaintance mentioned that their teenager had got a Saturday job as a waiter, and you then discovered that their teen was a DD?

I'm aware that many people strongly disagree but, to me, it's the same principle as at schools and workplaces where the rules are changed to 'neutral/unisex' uniforms for all - and, oddly enough, it only ever ends up being the females who are expected to adapt; the males are never expected to make any changes, compromise or have options taken away from them, as it's discovered that the males have been wearing the 'neutral/unisex/default' clothing all along....

@LaMarschallin

I understand that "actress" is no longer a de rigueur term.

Mange tout, Rodders, mange tout.

So clever, aren't you? It's actually a legitimate, recognised term in English parlance, (parlance means the manner of speaking and use of words). You can look it up in something called......a dictionary. Derived from French. Look it up - you may learn something.

You only think it’s harsh because you’ve just been proved wrong @tentimesaday. Dench is 87 this year. She looks it. And has my utmost respect for it. Her face isn’t her fortune, her talent is.

@DailyCandy

Yes it’s depressing to think all the money in the world can’t insure against unfortunate results... But nowadays it’s ‘normal’ for 20 year olds to disfigure themselves with filler and Botox. Imagine what that generation is going to look like. We need better anti ageing solutions. What we have is shit.

Or we could just age. Why does ageing need solutions?

I've just seen your a picture of Felicity Kendell. Jeez! Horrifying!!

If you’re happy to ‘just age’, that’s your prerogative, more power to you.

It's actually a legitimate, recognised term in English parlance

I know.

You just used it incorrectly, my little creme de menthe.

@Persephoned

When people stop starting threads on the internet, posting on social media, and writing click bait tabloid articles about women’s looks, describing them as ‘ruined’ then women in the public eye may feel under less scrutiny and less pressure about their looks.

The sort of scrutiny and pressure that probably makes people feel they want or need some sort of treatment/surgery.

I agree. The irony is this thread is very mean spirited and unkind and is solely focused on their worth according to their “ruined looks”.

This thread is no “better” than the pressure in acting to have work done 🙄

ALL of these women look beautiful. Not sure if none of them have had anything -but they look natural and genuinely more attractive for it in my opinion.

www.shape.com/celebrities/celebrity-photos/15-female-celebrities-who-say-no-plastic-surgery