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281 replies

Sbowiegirl · 28/01/2021 16:38

Loved the last one!

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Guylan · 29/01/2021 02:59

[quote TravellingTilbury]Pages from Ashley Biden's 2019 diary released: nationalfile.com/full-release-ashley-biden-diary-reveals-child-sex-trauma-drug-abuse-resentment-for-joe-whistleblower/[/quote]
I looked up nationalfile website, sounds a really reliable source! Not!

To start a new conspiracy theory thread
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/01/2021 06:28

@Sheleg - the poster is referring to a nutcase theory on the previous conspiracy theory thread.

It is ridiculously laughable (tautology there) and I and others who do actually know something about the Rh blood group system hopefully laid it to rest.

@Watermama - sorry you have been upset by the utter tripe.

itsgettingweird · 29/01/2021 07:41

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

If @WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll is on here - nothing to add to the thread but you have the best username

Why thank you, EmmanuelleMakro! Blush Smile

Agree. However it's become an ear worm I keep singing in between reading this thread 🤣🤣
notafanoftheman · 29/01/2021 07:52

Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro’s illegitimate son. medium.com/@leibowitt/of-course-fidel-castro-is-justin-trudeaus-dad-nobody-has-debunked-anything-4db6fc8a9042

Flippyferloppy · 29/01/2021 08:23

Wondering if any of you have heard about the Lancastria disaster during WW2? It is the United Kingdom's greatest maritime disaster, yet few have heard of it.

I am the descendent of a survivor and I am sure the government is covering something up. Basically they refused to reveal any information for years stating official secrets act, then when that had lapsed said that all available information had already been released.

Flippyferloppy · 29/01/2021 08:25

@Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails

I’m not sure if this counts as conspiracy but the Harry/James Hewitt posts have reminded me about doppelgangers - people that are the very double of total strangers. Some of the rioters in the FBI pics from the Capitol could double for some of my friends - I wonder if anyone’s ever been arrested for this!
This poor guy, for one: www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50020903
GwendolineMarysLaces · 29/01/2021 08:46

@rosetylersbiggun

Q-Anon blogs are not "great resources."

And honestly how do you go from "my son became autistic after a vaccine so I read one book about how vaccines cause autism, concluded from reading it that the writer was a man of integrity, and that's why there's vast New World Order global conspiracy, every single terror attack (plus the sinking of the Titanic for some reason) was a false flag event and also the scientists at Bletchley Park were actually secretly working for Hitler."

Ignoring the "vaccines cause neurodevelopment conditions" part, how do you go from reading one book from an anti-vaxxer to ranting about the New World Order and gangs of "homosexual politicians" secretly running the world?

This!!! I'm afraid this thread is no longer 'harmless fun'. The irony is that some of the 'sources' being shared likely derive from movements spreading misinformation for nefarious purposes. Wake up sheeple!
cbt944 · 29/01/2021 09:13

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll
Great user name, but this is pernicious nonsense:

The fact that people are being fined and threatened with prosecution/imprisonment for something like meeting with friends for a drink or driving three miles to exercise on a local beach?

Something has to break through the ignorance and denial, the minimising, the special exemptions for people like memememee!, etc. If a fine - as with speeding and other traffic offences - is a deterrent, then good.

That innocent people are being put into solitary confinement (at their own expense) for two weeks for the crime of travelling internationally on an aeroplane?

Quarantine is not a punishment. It is a public health measure.

People who might possibly have a virus that is harmless to something like 99.5%+ of people who actually contract it.

www.covidfaq.co/Claim-99-5-survive-Covid-we-re-overreacting-351b62d66ecf479092d938680799a23e

And the fact that anybody who does test positive and dies within four weeks of any cause is recorded as a COVID death. Even the already very elderly and very ill people who were, sadly, not long for this world anyway. You could have been young and healthy, tested positive, fallen off a cliff or been run over by a lorry 25 days later, and you would be a COVID death. I don't know the stats, but a number of people have cited the normal rates of deaths from other causes falling dramatically. Yes, the deaths are terrible - but it's not like a huge number of people in a population of 65m don't already die naturally every day anyway.

www.covidfaq.co/Claim-People-are-dying-with-Covid-but-not-of-Covid-e9d5af56419a438bb626bb08271b3b69

www.covidfaq.co/Claim-There-are-no-excess-deaths-28f490df41304094a803de376bb14797

lyralalala · 29/01/2021 09:14

@MollyButton

Porphyria is in the Royal Family though. I can't remember which of the Queen's uncles/cousins had it according to an interview give by Princess Margaret.
Prince William, elder brother of the current Duke of Gloucester, is believed to have been diagnosed with it.
covetingthepreciousthings · 29/01/2021 09:47

www.historyanswers.co.uk/kings-queens/the-virgin-king-was-queen-elizabeth-i-really-a-man/

Has anyone mentioned the Queen Elizabeth I conspiracy ?

Luddite26 · 29/01/2021 10:17

@covetingthepreciousthings

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/kings-queens/the-virgin-king-was-queen-elizabeth-i-really-a-man/

Has anyone mentioned the Queen Elizabeth I conspiracy ?

Obviously such a successful monarch couldn't possibly have been a woman. That she was a man is the only explanation.
KennethBakeOff · 29/01/2021 10:19

@notafanoftheman if anyone has read Keith Richards autobiography it wouldn't be a huge stretch to imagine that Papa Trudeau isn't the only candidate.

popgoestyeweasel · 29/01/2021 11:27

@notafanoftheman wow that article! And the resemblance is actually uncanny!

queenofarles · 29/01/2021 11:48

Wasn’t this rumor about Queen Elizabeth the duke d’anjou doing ?

As for being completely bald and wore tons of makeup , that’s due to the high level of Mercury and lead in cosmetics at that time.

GrandTheftWalrus · 29/01/2021 11:56

Just a shameless placemark after reading both threads

NicolaC17 · 29/01/2021 11:57

My MiL was up when the news came in about princess Diana and is adamant she was waking around by the car. A few years back a radio presenter also said he had footage of this and he died a few weeks later. So many inconsistencies with this whole thing this from her dying in the car, to dying on the way to hospital and at the hospital. I believe she’s alive and William & Harry found out later that she hadn’t died. I find it odd they don’t really reference her much now.

glasgow357 · 29/01/2021 12:09

Love all these!

NewspaperTaxis · 29/01/2021 12:22

Lockerbie - it's sort of common knowledge that there's been a cover-up on that. In a 20th anniversary programme a year ago on I think the BBC a couple of the locals on the ground - perfectly decent, respectable folk - referenced how they'd seen activities in the aftermath of the plane crash that had never been reported by the mainstream media.
Now, you'd think even in a programme dealing with the emotional fallout of the time, the reporter might ask, 'What things haven't been reported?' but nah, it's just accepted that there's a line you don't cross, as if like a gossip lowing their voice and saying 'I can't say any more...'

I guess it's stuff about the CIA combing the terrain for evidence of illegal freight such as drugs or something.

A fellow called Jim Swire had a daughter who died on the ground due to the crash and he's been given the runaround. Two journalists took him for a ride - literally - a car drive where he told them what he suspected. Acc to him, they looked relieved he hadn't found out the real story. The whole 'tell us what you've found out' conspiracy thriller trope is used by everyone from your local MP to any regulator, I've found. All you're doing is showing your hand, it's a form of surveillance.

Swire doesn't believe the right man was banged up for the Lockerbie bomb and this is not a wild view - Private Eye's Paul Foot was making the case long ago. But if the West was cosying up to Iran at the time maybe it helped to frame someone else - a Libyan. Likewise you could argue it helped to go after Iraq for 9/11 than look too closely into Saudi involvement.

The press made a big thing about releasing Al-Magarhi (sp?) early but would have had more than a hunch that 'compassionate grounds' was really 'he didn't do it'.... An appeal was due to come up that would have lifted the lid on how flimsy the case was, and incriminated others. Still it was all about stirring up our moral outrage.
Meantime, much of the press is running reports in the last year on the whereabouts of the 'real' suspect for the bombing, as if there's no contradiction.

peaceanddove · 29/01/2021 12:36

The 'Elizabeth I was a man' is sillier than most.

She was completely flat chested firstly, we only have historical portraits to go on which were highly stylised at the time and bore little relation to reality. Secondly, it was very fashionable during her reign for the bodice to flatten out the breasts.

She was bold and wore tonnes of make up it's true that she wore various wigs, but again it was the fashion at the time. As was the heavily painted white face, and to actually shave back your hairline to give you a much bigger forehead.

She never had children very true, but this was purely because she refused to relinquish her total authority as Queen Regnant. If she'd married, then her status and power would have been diminished by her having a husband. She just didn't want to share power, ever.

Hammonds · 29/01/2021 12:44

@covetingthepreciousthings

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/kings-queens/the-virgin-king-was-queen-elizabeth-i-really-a-man/

Has anyone mentioned the Queen Elizabeth I conspiracy ?

I’ve never heard that. I’ve watched so many queen liz films and documentaries I feel affronted on her behalf! Grin
Christinaismyperson · 29/01/2021 13:01

I believe that the Algarve is a hot spot for child abuse and trafficking.

I also believe that Elon Musk is quite possibly an evil supervillain. Based on nothing but my vivid imagination Grin

covetingthepreciousthings · 29/01/2021 13:15

I believe she’s alive and William & Harry found out later that she hadn’t died. I find it odd they don’t really reference her much now.

You think she's still alive now?
I don't think someone so well recognised would be able to disappear like that and live a different life.

NewspaperTaxis · 29/01/2021 13:20

I don't really see why she would want to. She seemed to be having a high old time and, to be fair, a moral direction in life with her causes and so on. She'd give up all that and a relationship with her kids... for what exactly?
If Wills and Harry don't reference her, it may be because it wasn't the Firm's finest hour so it damages the brand.
They did a whole programme on her in the anniversary of her death and it was Charles they didn't mention.
Not all conspiracy theories are equal, are they? Some are there to discredit all the others, it seems - the turd in the punch bowl theory.

Pimlicojo · 29/01/2021 13:25

NicolaC17 it's always been known that Diana didn't die in the car, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks differently? The initial reporting was that she'd been injured and she died later.

I can't believe that you think she's still alive. That's ridiculous. I'm sure William and Harry think of her often and talk about her privately.

Beketaten · 29/01/2021 13:40

I was working at a bar in Seattle the night Diana died - west coast USA so 8 hours time difference. The news was reporting that the driver and Dodi were dead, just that Diana was injured, along with the bodyguard. I was watching when the breaking news came in later that she had died.

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