Drugs. Be honest..

[Trivialpursuitofhappiness]

Inspired by the white bag thread, it just got me curious. I’m not a journo! Although, I suppose that’s what a journalist would say..

Have you / do you take drugs? What did you take and why did you?

I’ll be honest and go first, I occassinally use MDMA and I do use coke on nights. But I don’t have kids and I’d stop as soon as I was having them

@MacDuffsMuff I completely agree.

As for the this would be solved if we legalised it brigade, putting all the other pitfalls and the fact that they are far too simplistic views aside, you could say that about almost anything. The Worlds overpopulation problems would be solved if we colonised other planets, but that isnt happening currently either so they are equally irrelevant .

Depends on which drugs obviously. Not all drugs are equal. There are good arguments for legalizing certain drugs but as the situation is now if you use certain drugs you are clearly extremely cold hearted

The drug trade is pretty horrific for all drugs, though. Even Cannibis dealers use human trafficking/slavery and county lines.
I'm not perfect. I've smoked weed in the past. I even enjoyed it. But knowing now the human misery that comes behind it... wouldn't touch it again with a bargepole unless it was legalised.

Alcohol might cause untold damage in society, but at least the production doesn't rely on all kinds of underworld misery as well.

You get ethical drug shoppers in the same way you get ethical supermarket shoppers

It heavily limits your options though obviously cos most of the industry is horrific

@GeidiPrimes

Interesting fact - before drugs legislation happened in the 70s, there were about 500 registered addicts in the UK. 50 years after the 'war on drugs began we now have 10,000+.

There were probably a lot more who weren't registered though.

It's never been easier to buy weed outside of major distribution ime

@Chanjer

You get ethical drug shoppers in the same way you get ethical supermarket shoppers

It heavily limits your options though obviously cos most of the industry is horrific

I don't know any of it can be ethical unless you grow or make your own though?

Since children, no. Before- occasionally but not regularly

Not for donkeys years. Used to take speed mainly and the odd bit of coke or weed.

Had mdma for the first time at university and it was horrendous. Messed with my brain, never been quite right since (caused panic and mood changes) never touched them again.

Tbh I was more out off by the impact of drugs on others once I grew up. The teenagers on risky streets, communities in other countries. I couldn’t enjoy them anymore.

No.

If we colonized other planets
the difficulties involved with legalising drugs are comparable to those involved with colonizing other planets 😲
That's quite a leap isn't it 🤣🤭

I took them when I was younger and still would now but I wouldn’t even know how to get any these days. I could take a pill and dance the night away, happy and still very functional... I don’t get that feeling with alcohol.

You get ethical drug shoppers in the same way you get ethical supermarket shoppers

There is no way of ethically shopping for illegal drugs, sure, they might tell you there are, but people cannot honestly believe that rubbish, its just another way of absolving their guilty consciences when they put their own pleasure and self interest first.

As HibernatingTill2030 says, unless you make, grow your own or harvest from the wild it cannot be ethical, and if you are doing it that way you are not a "shopper".

I'm a recovering alcoholic. If I took drugs too I'd be dead by now.

The difficulties involved with legalising drugs are comparable to those involved with colonizing other planets 😲
That's quite a leap isn't it

Yes, thats why it would pay you not to misquote me. I said that neither were happening currently, and so bleating that the oppression and abuse would stop if drugs were legalised is as irrelevant, because they arent legal.

Nope, never tried anything, I've got better things to spend my money on. Don't drink either, don't like the taste. Now ex DP was a heavy cannabis user, turned him into a zombie which is why he's now an ex

@allsqueekums When you say no regrets, do you really mean that? That sounds such an inflammatory question and I'm trying to find a way of writing this so that it doesn't (genuinely). What I'm asking is that given that you know the journey that drugs go through and the people (many young and vulnerable) hurt and damaged along the way, do you really honestly not feel regretful? I feel like I should put a smiley face or something to show that I'm not digging at you or being a cow, I just genuinely want to know.

Weed, hash, ketamine, mushrooms and cocaine. All extremely occasionally (think once or twice each). It was fun, but I'm not fussed about them. Would rather enjoy a nice bottle of wine!

Im a surgeon, I frequently treat victims of the drug trade, trying to patch them up, trying to heal them, seeing first hand the horrific damage, injuries, abuse and deaths. Those are the ones who come into us with at least a chance, they are the few. Most dont make it that far. If people saw that with their own eyes, day after day I highly doubt the vast majority would still be as flippant about taking illegal drugs for their fun and damn the consequences.

misquote me. I said that neither were happening currently, and so bleating
Pray forgive me pretty please 🙏 my bleating🐑 and misquoting

@PoleToPole

I`m a surgeon, I frequently treat victims of the drug trade, trying to patch them up, trying to heal them, seeing first hand the horrific damage, injuries, abuse and deaths. Those are the ones who come into us with at least a chance, they are the few. Most don`t make it that far. If people saw that with their own eyes, day after day I highly doubt the vast majority would still be as flippant about taking illegal drugs for their fun and damn the consequences.

TBF there are a great many injustices in the world that would likely cause people to change if they actually saw the consequences of their behaviour on a daily basis. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing

I like my brain chemistry just the way it is, thanks. So, no.

Yes indeed HippoOnMyRoofEatingCake, and we should all be questioning our own behaviour and adjusting it when necessary.

No. Never have never seen the attraction.

Why the fuck for?

No. Never taken drugs. Ever.

Why? Because I was never curious and also because I could never take something that I didn't know exactly what it contained - these drugs are unregulated, often manufactured in questionable places with questionable hygiene and by people who really couldn't give a toss what added ingredient they sling into the mix - ground glass etc.

The Daniel Spargo case is desperately sad.