Moving on.... it's Biden/Harris Administration time (#124)

[Roussette]

Previous thread...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4141906-For-there-is-always-light-Thread-123-is-belong-to-President-Biden?watched=1&msgid=103967923#103967923

so Doofus would definitely want one too.

He did. Unfortunately for him, and IIRC, he wanted a Noble Prize.

www.thewrap.com/trump-video-nobel-prize/

www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-misspells-nobel-peace-prize-in-fundraising-ad-2020-9

(Also, I've just realised I might be eligible to nominate a candidate! Alas, I've missed this year's deadline.)

Who is on your shortlist Lweji?

www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-twitter-2650231115/

'"Due to Twitter's banning of the @realDonaldTrump account following the Capitol riot that Trump instigated, he has not been able to personally trash Cheney via his once widely read tweets," the website reported. "He has written out insults and observations, several of them about Cheney, but with no ability to tweet them himself, he has resorted to suggesting put-downs for others to use or post to their own Twitter, according to a person with direct knowledge of this new habit."'

thehill.com/homenews/news/536714-former-bush-officials-leave-gop-over-failure-to-disown-trump-report

Trumpy is destroying the GOP piece by piece.

@Roussette

thehill.com/homenews/news/536714-former-bush-officials-leave-gop-over-failure-to-disown-trump-report

Trumpy is destroying the GOP piece by piece.

The irony is by leaving they are doing Trump (and his cabal) a favour. Further purifying (a word I chose to use) the party.

Considering how well some of them have done out of the GOP, it's interesting the lack of interest in saving it. Which sort of started the mess they are now leaving behind them.

Yes DGR, agree. And as you know, the same happened to our Conservative party - moderates left or were kicked out, and the electorate didn't notice and ticked their blue box anyway even though the party has changed beyond recognition.

@lionheart

Who is on your shortlist Lweji?

Not sure if I should nominate Fauci for Medicine or Peace. Maybe he could be the first to win both in the same year.

And a certain subreddit for Economics.

Trump is a good candidate for the IgNobels in several areas, though.

Will Biden accept previously deported back?

www.businessinsider.com/veterans-deported-to-mexico-recruited-by-cartels-want-biden-help-2021-1

Warren on stock market and hedge fund regulations.
Could it be a political issue?

www.businessinsider.com/warren-sec-regulation-gamestop-wall-street-securities-exchange-commission-2021-2

Lweji

Can you nominate someone? Very impressive. I always thought it was the Nobel commitee who decided nominees and the overall winner, I obviously haven't paid much attention to how it actually works though.

@HoneysuckIejasmine

Yes DGR, agree. And as you know, the same happened to our Conservative party - moderates left or were kicked out, and the electorate didn't notice and ticked their blue box anyway even though the party has changed beyond recognition.

In the immortal words of Boris, 'alas' that was my family. Tory voting to the bitter end including in Dec 2019 even though doing so would directly harm them and their children (by Brexit). Yet it would never ever occur to them to vote otherwise and they would not have hesitated for a whisper of a second in doing so.

www.nationalmemo.com/miller-disarmed-national-guard

In testimony before the House this week, Capitol Police and D.C. National Guard officials acknowledged that by Jan. 4 they understood that "… the January 6th event would not be like any of the previous protests held in 2020. We knew that militia groups and white supremacist organizations would be attending. We also knew that some of these participants were intending to bring firearms and other weapons to the event. We knew that there was a strong potential for violence and that Congress was the target."

On that same day, former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller issued a memo to the secretary of the Army placing some extremely unusual limits on National Guard forces for that event. It's not a to-do list. It's a list of thou shalt nots. A long list. A list that says guard forces can't arrest any of the pro-Trump protesters, or search them, or even touch them. And that's just for starters.

www.reuters.com/article/us-nobel-prize-peace-usa-idUSKBN2A12HY?taid=60183e1e43724700012ac53c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Stacy Abrams nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize

Bloody hell, that memo from C Miller.

I started off thinking, "Benefit of the doubt, is there room for this to be about lowering the temperature and deconflicting the policing of this event?"

Ban on helmets and body armour had me .

Ban on sharing equipment with law enforcement agencies had me .

Ban on the National Guard using intelligence or doing surveillance or reconnaisance?

This is... I'm just... .

It's what Melissa Ryan said in this week's Control-Alt-Right-Delete newsletter: the Trumpies thought they would win. They didn't think they needed to cover their arses. They thought they would be in charge after 6 Jan.

The ex Defense Secretary has death on his hands....

BTW, I haven't had the chance to read/watch all the links yet, so can't vouch for their quality, but Melissa Ryan included this material in the newsletter (which is usually worth reading):

What You Need To Know
medium.com/@melissaryan/what-you-need-to-know-8af30861d3e7

This week, three major narrative stories gave us an incredible amount of insight into the violent attempted coup via archived video from the 6th and the days and weeks leading up to it.

Just Security’s Ryan Goodman and Tech Policy Press’ Justin Hendrix used video compiled from the Parler hack
projects.propublica.org/parler-capitol-videos/

to show how Trump’s speech incited the crowd to storm the Capitol Building.
www.justsecurity.org/74335/fight-for-trump-video-evidence-of-incitement-at-the-capitol/

The 10-minute video is remarkable and has caught the attention of House Democrats planning for the upcoming Trump impeachment trial as they prepare the argument that Trump incited the crowd to riot.

The Wall Street Journal has a video investigation showing how the Proud Boys’ were key instigators of the coup.
www.wsj.com/video/video-investigation-proud-boys-were-key-instigators-in-capitol-riot/37B883B6-9B19-400F-8036-15DE4EA8A015.html

The video names names, pays attention to detail, and gives viewers a front-row seat to watch the Proud Boys before and during the riot. The group skipped Trump’s speech entirely and was among the first to arrive at the Capitol and break down the barriers to get inside.

Buzzfeed’s Craig Silverman, Jane Lytvynenko, and Pranav Dixit reviewed more than 20 hours of video footage
www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/maga-bus-tour-coup

from a bus tour organized by the pro-Trump group that created Stop the Steal and helped organize the January 6 rally “The Women for America First.” On the cross country, tour speakers spread lies about election fraud and, in some cases, called for violence outright.

George Washington University is providing a central database and tracker board of court cases emerging from the attack on Capitol Hill:
extremism.gwu.edu/Capitol-Hill-Cases

For keeping track of cases, Ryan also recommends USA Today : eu.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/

And Emily Gorcenski, who I think has been mentioned on these threads before: twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski

Roussette

I really hope Stacey Abrams wins. She has done so much for the black community and voting rights in America.

Blimey, that list.

Thank you for your list, too Perking.

Thanks for the links Perking

That buzzfeed coup tour one is quite shocking.

That Miller memo is shocking

Summarised
The wonder isn't that someone died. It's that it wasn't more.

Considering the limits that Miller set on National Guard forces—including no helmet and no body armor—it's a good thing that none of them were present at the Capitol. They would not have survived.

And the woman being trampled to death by fellow rioters, her cause of death was never really mentioned before,

Stacey Abrams

www.reuters.com/article/us-nobel-prize-peace-usa-idUSKBN2A12HY?taid=60183e1e43724700012ac53c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter