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Moving on.... it's Biden/Harris Administration time (#124)

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Roussette · 24/01/2021 14:17

Previous thread...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4141906-For-there-is-always-light-Thread-123-is-belong-to-President-Biden?watched=1&msgid=103967923#103967923

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Roussette · 29/01/2021 08:20

@HillsBesideTheSea
@minou123
@eatlovemerry

Thank you all so much. I have read article after article to try and get my head round it all... it was the 'driving the price down' bit I had such trouble with.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/01/2021 08:25

Thank you all for the explanations about the share shenanigans! I had to read all the analogies twice (out loud) but now I think I understand! Grin

chomalungma · 29/01/2021 08:28

Most of my knowledge in this comes from The Big Short and The wolf of Wall Street.

There are some very complicated financial instruments out there.

Roussette · 29/01/2021 08:48

This is hilarious!

Robin Hood
@robinhood
Lovely to have all these new followers .. can we just check that you know that you’re following The World Wide Robin Hood Society in Nottingham and not the Robin Hood App .. if so .. a big welcome from Sherwood

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DGRossetti · 29/01/2021 09:30

It's possible that the distribution of information via channels like reddit has made dodgy futures trading impossible.

If so, that is a lot of fat being taken out of the system.

Remember, most of Wall Street makes money from money. They don't really add much value. If that is exposed the entire basis of western style capitalism loses value.

Be interesting to see if this has any effect on that other sucker scam of cryptocurrencies.

Lweji · 29/01/2021 10:28

One point to take about the share thing is that Trump has, as far as I know, removed many checks and regulations that should and could have prevented this - and the 2008 crisis.

It has been mentioned for some time that a similar crisis to 2008 was looming. The current economic problems are mostly due to covid, but it can get worse. And let's hope this reddit share mini crisis will remind the new administration of the need to replace those regulations. And the public that they are needed.

www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/063015/what-are-major-laws-acts-regulating-financial-institutions-were-created-response-2008-financial.asp

prospect.org/economy/trump-s-assault-financial-reform/

From the link above:

Since taking office, the Trump administration has set about dismantling the core pillars of financial reform by:

· lowering capital requirements;
· weakening stress testing and living wills;
· allowing more proprietary trading;
· enabling more unregulated derivatives dealing;
· rolling back consumer and investor protections;
· reducing prudential regulation of systemically significant banks;
· neutering the regulation of systemically significant nonbanks and the shadow banking system;
· defunding research and monitoring of the financial industry; and
· stopping enforcing the laws, if not actually siding with the predators.

While all are important, the deregulation of systemically significant nonbanks is worth singling out, because it illustrates the Trump administration's sheer recklessness. This will recreate the two-tier regulatory system that incentivizes and rewards regulatory arbitrage and a bailout culture. The implications for financial stability are immense.

DGRossetti · 29/01/2021 10:31

One point to take about the share thing is that Trump has, as far as I know, removed many checks and regulations that should and could have prevented this - and the 2008 crisis.

Meanwhile the EU went the other way and required financial institutions to reinforce their reserves - SOLVENCY II.

No idea what the UKs position is now, since Brexit.

Lweji · 29/01/2021 10:32

[quote lionheart]Smile

www.vice.com/en/article/z3v8m4/proud-boys-reel-at-report-leader-was-a-rat[/quote]
These far right extremists are not particularly clever, are they?

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/02/race-whisperer-seizes-control-american-neo-nazi-group

Thymeout · 29/01/2021 11:01

'Far right extremists are not particularly clever, are they?'

Bound to happen. That's what comes of limiting your gene pool. As with Royal Families.

Disclaimer: I am not a geneticist.

chomalungma · 29/01/2021 11:40

An interesting read on Shorting shares

www.ig.com/uk/trading-strategies/how-to-short-sell-stocks-181115

merrymouse · 29/01/2021 11:52

I don't understand why the Republicans are promoting Greene

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55845756

What is their long term plan? Do they think they can quietly drop her at some point?

I can't believe that any Americans apart from a very small minority aren't sickened by what she has said about Sandyhook. (And obviously that is just one thing on a long list).

merrymouse · 29/01/2021 11:56

From the BBC article

"Over the years, I've had teams of people manage my pages"

'Teams'? She is a recently elected member of congress, not the president.

Roussette · 29/01/2021 11:57

Gosh.

POTUS Biden's schedule today.

Bit different to DOOFUS.
'The President has lots of meetings and lots of telephone calls'

Moving on.... it's Biden/Harris Administration time (#124)
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Mittens030869 · 29/01/2021 12:54

@Roussette I agree, it's totally different from his predecessor's schedule. That would have been
golf all day every day except when he showed off at press conferences, demanding respect because he was President and suggesting whacky cures for Covid, like bleach, whilst deliberately ignoring the actual scientific advice.

merrymouse · 29/01/2021 12:58

I suspect it would have been almost impossible to get Trump to attend any event or meeting that didn't revolve around his ego.

cyclingmad · 29/01/2021 13:06

The Gamestop situation is not political in any respect. Nothing to do with anything Trump did.

Hedge funds have been shorting stock for decades its not new. Now they have lost billions cos Gomersal then many more people on reddit got together to prevent them basically almost bankrupting the company.

The hedge funds dont like and doing everything they can to stop them, manipulating stock, preventing them buying stock....where were the politicians all these decades stopping hedge funds decimating companies? You really think they will do anything of course not. What they will do is make it harder for people to do this again. Screwing down people so they can't make money like the big boys do.

Disgusting.

Lweji · 29/01/2021 13:23

The Gamestop situation is not political in any respect.

Why do you mention it here, then?
If not political, what does it have to do with Biden?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/01/2021 13:36

Back to Trump.

‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Lweji · 29/01/2021 13:40

That might explain why Melania stays with Trump. Wink

Yohoheaveho · 29/01/2021 14:03

I'm looking forward to the publication of the American kompromat book 🥳

minou123 · 29/01/2021 14:10

My apologies, I have derailed the thread with my analogy of "Shorting".
I'm pleased you have found it helpful to understand what is going on. And thank you to everyone who added to the analogy and corrected it.

I will derail no further.Grin

minou123 · 29/01/2021 14:13

[quote lionheart]Also not clever:

nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html[/quote]
I was wondering why "Jewish Space Laser" was trending on UK twitter this morning

PerkingFaintly · 29/01/2021 15:10

Goodness, minou, don't apologise! I found it fascinating!

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