For there is always light. Thread #123 is belong to President Biden

[PerkingFaintly]

"For there is always light
If only we're brave enough to see it
If only we're brave enough to be it."

— Amanda Gorman, 20 Jan 2021, inauguration of President Joe R Biden

Moving on from the Trump threads, last one here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4141056-Its-officially-time-to-say-ta-ta-to-Trump-its-inauguration-day-trump-122

That is so great!

Roussette
Hahaha... Yes he would care. He is so egotistical, it was his only measure of success in his head. Do you honestly think Trump's followers weren't a huge proportion of bots? They were. Between 35% and 60% according to many sources.
Every now and then Twitter did a purge and his numbers would drop dramatically..

I really laughed aloud at those senators and congresspeople who were whinging that they had lost a lot of followers after there was a Twitter purge recently; did they really not know that a large proportion of those "followers" were bots?

Ooops, great on the Bernie hoodie I mean

Hope this works...

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Try again, just LOVE THIS. Sound up!

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@Roussette

Hahaha... Yes he would care. He is so egotistical, it was his only measure of success in his head. Do you honestly think Trump's followers weren't a huge proportion of bots? They were. Between 35% and 60% according to many sources. Every now and then Twitter did a purge and his numbers would drop dramatically.. Anyway... who cares... he's not on Twitter now as POTUS. If he comes back as DOOFUS he is just another twitter account and subject to all the Twitter guidelines that should have been applied before.

How refreshing that twitter isn't the driver for this Administration.

So how many did it drop by according to these many sources you cite?

Love how you say who cares he's not on twitter now yet you'll still be blaming trump for weeks and months to come ...I mean who cares Biden is President now right and has undone all of what Trump did so hard to continue to blame him

@ListeningQuietly

Trump is history.

Former presidents are expected (and paid) to engage in Presidential duties for the rest of their lives.

Carter got a bye for this week because

• he 96
• COVID

Nixon did not turn up to events because he was
disgraced

Trump did not turn up to his first required event

• the dignified transfer of power

He has already failed in the role
and to some extent impeachment will simplify things for both parties

The USA is far far greater than Trump, Qanon, the Tea Party or any single issue
it will move on
and with a good manager leading an amazing crew
will thrive

Thank goodness

Good, then you should agree thay in future posts people shouldn't use twitter as a source of news then in any posts going forward. Links to direct pdfs or msm or official federal websites.

lionheart I am howling at that Fox News fail over the Time cover.

It's like kindergarten activity for all the misinformation spewers of the last >4 years.

Now, children, yesterday we learned what facts were.

Today, we're going to see if we can spot some in their natural environment. No, Charlene, that's not a fact – that's called satire but it's for the big boys and girls to play with.

@Cacacoisfarraige

I looked on Donald Jr’s account. He’s blaming Biden for the deaths today. What an absolute tool. I thought Eric was the dumb one.

Donnie is the one who wears far right three percenters logos...

Good, then you should agree thay in future posts people shouldn't use twitter as a source of news then in any posts going forward. Links to direct pdfs or msm or official federal websites.

If you use twitter as a news agency feed this is exactly what you do.

I use it for this reason. To source that type of information.

You clearly you use twitter differently.

@PerkingFaintly

It's like kindergarten activity for all the misinformation spewers of the last >4 years.

Now, children, yesterday we learned what facts were.

Today, we're going to see if we can spot some in their natural environment. No, Charlene, that's not a fact – that's called satire but it's for the big boys and girls to play with.

I love this!

Infact, if you don't mind, I might steal it

The Fox fail is hilarious, yes! Embarrassing! There's some very stupid people out there.
Night all

Like I said, minou123, there seems to be a veritable outbreak of people who suddenly care about facts.

Matched only by the number of people who repeatedly trotted out, "Obviously I don't support Trump but..." who are now unaccountably grouchy at him being deposed.

But they never supported him, right? Not at all. Not bothered either way. Oh nononono noes.

@Justanotherlurker
I presume you supported Trump. Are you really talking to people on here about morals?

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-justice-department-election.html#click=t.co/M3mGoJdbsB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-justice-department-election.html#click=t.co/M3mGoJdbsB
Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney

Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Their informal pact ultimately helped persuade Mr. Trump to keep Mr. Rosen in place, calculating that a furor over mass resignations at the top of the Justice Department would eclipse any attention on his baseless accusations of voter fraud. Mr. Trump’s decision came only after Mr. Rosen and Mr. Clark made their competing cases to him in a bizarre White House meeting that two officials compared with an episode of Mr. Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice,” albeit one that could prompt a constitutional crisis.

The previously unknown chapter was the culmination of the president’s long-running effort to batter the Justice Department into advancing his personal agenda. He also pressed Mr. Rosen to appoint special counsels, including one who would look into Dominion Voting Systems, a maker of election equipment that Mr. Trump’s allies had falsely said was working with Venezuela to flip votes from Mr. Trump to Joseph R. Biden Jr.

This account of the department’s final days under Mr. Trump’s leadership is based on interviews with four former Trump administration officials who asked not to be named because of fear of retaliation.

We paid attention.

We paid close attention to it all because every damn thing was at stake.

The corruption, greed, incompetence and cruelty did not just emanate from Trump but he enabled it.

Unforgivable.

Biden administration weighs turning over Trump tax returns to House Democrats.
www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/trump-taxes-house-lawsuit/2021/01/22/4f4df442-5cf1-11eb-8bcf-3877871c819d_story.html

U.S. District Judge Trevor N. McFadden declined Friday to lift a stay on a pending House lawsuit. Instead, the judge agreed to give Treasury and Justice Department officials two weeks to report back to him, acknowledging that President Biden’s team was just settling in after the inauguration this week.


McFadden also kept in place an order requiring the government to give the former president’s lawyers 72 hours’ notice before releasing his tax return information to allow them to file a request to block the release.
Separation-of-powers issues that have slowed the case “may fall out” now that Trump is no longer in office, the judge noted.
“It would be a former president trying to stop a political branch, rather than one branch suing another. At least that’s my instinct,” said McFadden, a 2017 Trump appointee to the federal bench in Washington.
House General Counsel Douglas N. Letter agreed, saying, “We’re not dealing with a president anymore. We’re dealing with a former president.”

Trump entertained plan to install an attorney general who would help him pursue baseless election fraud claims.
www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-justice-department-overturn-election/2021/01/22/b7f0b9fa-5d1c-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

The plan — if enacted — would have pushed out Jeffrey Rosen as the acting attorney general and installed in his place Jeffrey Clark, whom Trump had appointed to lead the Justice Department’s Environment and Natural Resources Division and who later would come to lead the Civil Division. Clark, then, could have taken steps to wield the Justice Department’s power to help keep Trump in office. But the president was ultimately dissuaded from moving forward after a high-stakes meeting with those involved, the people said.


The people spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter. The move was first reported by the New York Times. Legal analysts said it amounted to a disastrous attack on the Justice Department’s independence, and perhaps something worse.
“Before the insurrectionist assault on the US Capitol, there was an attempted coup at the Justice Dept. — fomented by the President of the United States,” former Justice Department official David Laufman wrote on Twitter.
A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment, as did Rosen.

Wow the 🐿🐿 were out in force yesterday. Must he exhausting being so combative all the time!

@lionheart

That's absolutely horrific!