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For there is always light. Thread #123 is belong to President Biden

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PerkingFaintly · 20/01/2021 19:14

"For there is always light
If only we're brave enough to see it
If only we're brave enough to be it."

— Amanda Gorman, 20 Jan 2021, inauguration of President Joe R Biden

Moving on from the Trump threads, last one here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4141056-Its-officially-time-to-say-ta-ta-to-Trump-its-inauguration-day-trump-122

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lionheart · 21/01/2021 19:43

Something here on the ERA:

www.womensliberationfront.org/news/president-biden-executive-orders-day-1?

I think this will play out in many different arenas, including the courts.

lionheart · 21/01/2021 19:46

www.rawstory.com/social-security-administration/

'After President Joe Biden kicked off his White House tenure Wednesday by sacking several corrupt and incompetent holdovers from the Trump administration—including labor board attorney Peter Robb and CFPB Director Kathy Kraninger—progressives are urging the newly inaugurated president to keep the firing spree going by terminating his predecessor's right-wing appointees at the Social Security Administration.'

CaveMum · 21/01/2021 19:47

@Roussette

Do you like West Wing CaveMum? I never knew! Grin

Great post @ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia. Smile

Oh I don’t like to mention it Wink
FrankieStein402 · 21/01/2021 19:53

I read the EO that has been alleged to say goodbye to women's rights:
supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/590/17-1618/

Then went back to refferenced title VII
www.eeoc.gov/statutes/title-vii-civil-rights-act-1964

and the Bostock/Clayton appeal that applies this to trans/gay
supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/590/17-1618/

I cannot actually see anything wrong with any of this, it all seems quite laudable.

Could any of those claiming this "...is removing womens rights" please point me at an analysis or equivalent that explains why?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/01/2021 19:54

Bit more about those filibusters. McConnell doesn't call the shots any more.

Democrats rebuff McConnell's filibuster demands.
www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/democrats-mcconnell-filibuster-460967

Lweji · 21/01/2021 19:55

Nancy Pelosi also conducted a famous fillibuster during Trump's term. She holds the record.

www.rollcall.com/2018/02/07/nancy-pelosi-claims-record-for-longest-house-floor-speech/

Probably a good idea to get rid of it, but both sides have used it.

Lweji · 21/01/2021 19:57

About keeping it, or not:
www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/democrats-mcconnell-filibuster-460967

merrymouse · 21/01/2021 20:07

frankiestein the issue is whether the new EO makes it impossible to distinguish between sex and gender identity.

SenecaFallsRedux · 21/01/2021 20:29

Speaking of women's rights, and speaking of filibusters, here is a famous one in the US from several years ago.

www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/26/texas-senator-wendy-davis-abortion-bill-speech

minou123 · 21/01/2021 20:38

@CaveMum

I refer you to The West Wing episode “The Stackhouse Filibuster” to learn more Wink
I am going to have to watch the West Wing. I've clearly missed out. Grin

Is it similar to The Thick of It, where
it accurately reflects the government, through comedy?

ListeningQuietly · 21/01/2021 20:40

@merrymouse

frankiestein the issue is whether the new EO makes it impossible to distinguish between sex and gender identity.
See the reference within it to existing discrimination legislation

I do get the feeling that certain Feminists have been manipulated by those with a right wing agenda

that EO does NOT eliminate women
it just says that discrimination is not acceptable
and in the long run things will settle down
so long as people do not over react

minou123 · 21/01/2021 20:42

According to the article, the rules are:

The rules are strict: no digressions, no food or water, no leaning on a desk, no bathroom breaks. And no sitting - Davis's chair was removed when she started speaking, hence the need for comfortable footwear.

Would McConnell be able to physically do it?

chomalungma · 21/01/2021 20:44

it accurately reflects the government, through comedy

It's basically a drama about US Government, with a fantastic President and his team.

Some very powerful episodes.

viques · 21/01/2021 20:47

[quote DuncinToffee]Video from yesterday,

The first Black woman VP swears in first Black & Jewish senators from Georgia & first Latino senator from California. This is what democracy looks like

twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1352017296580087810?s=09[/quote]
I love her laugh.

Lweji · 21/01/2021 20:47

The West Wing is not a comedy.
It has some funny scenes, and its not dark like House of Cards, but a comedy it is not.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/01/2021 20:49

Just keeping tabs on you know who...

Another one of former president Donald Trump’s banks said Thursday that it is closing his accounts, as Trump returns to a business hammered by covid-19 and the backlash to Trump’s role in the deadly attack on the Capitol.




“We no longer have any depository relationship with him," Bank United said Thursday. The bank declined to give a reason for its decision.
The Florida-based bank had held some of Trump’s money since at least 2015, according to the former president’s financial disclosures. At the end of 2020, Trump said he had two money market accounts at Bank United, containing between $5.1 million and $25.2 million combined. The financial disclosure forms allowed Trump to list his assets in ranges, rather than exact dollar amounts.

And his erstwhile buddy.

Former vice president Mike Pence told supporters Wednesday that he and his wife, Karen Pence, plan to move back to Indiana this summer, according to the Indianapolis Star.
Pence, 61, made the remark in a speech in his hometown of Columbus, Ind., hours after leaving the White House.


“I’ve already promised Karen we’ll be moving back to Indiana come this summer,” Pence said, according to the Indianapolis Star. “There’s no place like home.” He did not provide details about their plans.


Before entering the White House in 2017, Pence was governor of Indiana. He previously served six terms as a House member representing Indiana’s 2nd, and later 6th, Congressional District.

merrymouse · 21/01/2021 21:01

it just says that discrimination is not acceptable

The problem is that discrimination isn't always bad - e.g. special prices for senior citizens, and with regard to this EO, separate categories for competition in Sport. It's not clear how this EO interacts with legislation that allows discrimination.

I suppose we will find out.

CaveMum · 21/01/2021 21:07

@minou123 you absolutely should watch West Wing, all other things aside it is truly one of the greatest TV shows of all time. The writing is close to perfect and the casting is bang on.

There are parallels to real life, many of the characters are said to be based on actual White House staffers, plus it is, to my understanding, pretty darn accurate in as far as the political behind-the-scenes shenanigans go on.

It never talks down to the viewer, you are just expected to follow whatever the heck they’re talking about and you’ll find yourself picking up a lot of nuggets of info here and there.

It’s on All4 to stream in the UK.

chomalungma · 21/01/2021 21:09

t never talks down to the viewer, you are just expected to follow whatever the heck they’re talking about and you’ll find yourself picking up a lot of nuggets of info here and there

West Wing knowledge has helped on these threads.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 21/01/2021 21:20

@chomalungma

t never talks down to the viewer, you are just expected to follow whatever the heck they’re talking about and you’ll find yourself picking up a lot of nuggets of info here and there

West Wing knowledge has helped on these threads.

Grin Which reminds me of being in a UN meeting some years ago...

In a room, a UK SofS asks a question, member of staff confidently says

"Procedure is this."

"God, sorry, no, that was the West Wing, I'll need to check actually."

It wasn't always entirely accurate.

minou123 · 21/01/2021 21:21

Thank you CaveMum, chomalungma and Lweji.

I shall watch it tomorrow, as I have a day off.
I love tv shows that are parallel to real life. So I suspect I'm going to enjoy this.
This is why I enjoy The Thick Of It. Whilst it is a comedy, a lot of the stuff does happen in government.

lionheart · 21/01/2021 21:31

@Lweji

The West Wing is not a comedy. It has some funny scenes, and its not dark like House of Cards, but a comedy it is not.
Two Cathedrals. Sad
Roussette · 21/01/2021 21:41

twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1352368808430886914

Fauci: “One of things that we're going to do is to be completely transparent, open & honest. If things go wrong, not point fingers, but to correct them. And to make everything we do be based on #science & evidence."

Footage of him saying this if you click on link, he says Biden has stressed this continually

AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2021 21:42

@ Roussette

So far so good. My problem is I tend to be very 'skittish' with new medicines/procedures so I have to be careful not to turn a bit of wind into a side effect. Grin

lionheart · 21/01/2021 21:48

Meanwhile Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has just filed Articles of Impeachment against President Biden.

She looks pleased with herself.