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Biden our time until Inauguration Day! (Trump #121) 🙂🕊

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Roussette · 15/01/2021 16:01

Previous thread...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4134370-Impeachment-of-Trump-and-Inauguration-of-Biden-120?watched=1&msgid=103674623#103674623

With thanks to @FridayNightAtTheBronzer for thread title Smile

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pointythings · 15/01/2021 22:07

Literally nobody has said that storming the Capitol is an OK thing to do for anyone of any persuasion, though. You're still doing it. It makes you look uninformed.

BruceAndNosh · 15/01/2021 22:08

I've just been reading about WaPo snapping a photo of My pillow guys notes. So clearly Trump is still trying to weasel his way into staying.
Yes I know, they are NOT Trump's notes, but why is he even entertaining this BLOKE? (who is seriously into QANON)

NotaRealLawyer · 15/01/2021 22:08

Perhaps "Martial Law" is the name of a new pillow?
Hard pillow type, none of yer goosefeather down wussy stuff.

BruceAndNosh · 15/01/2021 22:09

Listen, I know we're meant to be nice and welcoming and everyone has a right to post...

But do sod off Cycling...

cyclingmad · 15/01/2021 22:10

[quote ZZTopGuitarSolo]I'd also like to see your response to ZZTop's response about vaccinations, which clearly blows your Daily Mail article out of the water.

I also never got a response to my detailed explanation in an earlier thread from a friend (former head of Maine CDC, currently head of Maine Health) talking about the actual challenges of distributing the vaccines.

Still, if the Daily Mail says GOVERNORS ARE TRYING TO UNDERMINE TRUMP then who are we to argue with mere facts?

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html[/quote]
Because my friends in DC who are doctors have been saying as I said earlier its down to states to determine priorities and they know that there are vaccines sitting around not being used because of their state making a pigs ear out of it...whereas other states like Texas have managed to vaccine alot more because they set their priorities 🙄

And you should know availability of vaccine is pretty low around the world, even we are struggling to get enough doses, availability isn't a problem just one country is facing

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/01/2021 22:12

Melassa
Some mattress guy going to see Trump with a plan for martial law and who to install as head of CIA etc.

Isn't that a younger John Cleese?

cyclingmad · 15/01/2021 22:14

@BruceAndNosh

Listen, I know we're meant to be nice and welcoming and everyone has a right to post...

But do sod off Cycling...

Well just says that your not then, considering I have said nothing rude to you..🤷‍♂️
Melassa · 15/01/2021 22:15

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Melassa Some mattress guy going to see Trump with a plan for martial law and who to install as head of CIA etc.

Isn't that a younger John Cleese?

Certainly a chubbier, less dingly-dangly version
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/01/2021 22:15

even we are struggling to get enough doses, availability isn't a problem just one country is facing

Um, let me guess: Brazil? No, no, um.... Hungary? No, I've got it: Russia.

Gingaaarghpussy · 15/01/2021 22:15

@boatyardblues

Now that's just meanSad

lionheart · 15/01/2021 22:16

@TheNorthWestPawsage

Meanwhile the National Rifle Association says it has filed a petition for bankruptcy.

(Thoughts and prayers.)

Excellent.
minou123 · 15/01/2021 22:20

I should have better things to do on a Friday night, but I don't

As BruceAndNosh said, the claim Trump and co were laughing while people stormed the Capitol, was debunked on thread 118.

I have found BruceAndNosh original post:

09/01/2021 10:42
BruceAndNosh

Again, that video of Trump and family watching TV screens in a tent or marquee was filmed during the PRE riot rally. While it's entirely possibly they did watch subsequent events unfold also, that it not what the Trump Jr video shows.
This "watching with glee as Capitol is stormed" story of the video has been widely shared, but is not accurate.
Trump and his hideous family have done plenty of terrible things, there is no need to invent more

cyclingmad · 15/01/2021 22:20

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

even we are struggling to get enough doses, availability isn't a problem just one country is facing

Um, let me guess: Brazil? No, no, um.... Hungary? No, I've got it: Russia.

The EU for one which has been in papers alot about hownthey have failed to secure enough and that production needs to ramp up
lionheart · 15/01/2021 22:20

Not all Trumps. Smile

Mary L Trump
@MaryLTrump
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'66% of Republicans say Donald acted responsibly last week
56% of Republican say Donald bears NO responsibility for the assault on the Capitol
65% of Republicans think there is evidence of voter fraud

So, Republicans, if you want unity, BeBest™ if you clean your own house first.'

CaveMum · 15/01/2021 22:21

Reuters on the NRA news. Seems it’s more to do with the fact they are being sued in New York State and are seeking to reincorporate in Texas.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns/national-rifle-association-says-it-has-filed-bankruptcy-petitions-in-u-s-court-idUSKBN29K2LV

Roussette · 15/01/2021 22:27

I mean I only call out the BS and obvious hypocrisy of some posters thats all, like the fake news about Trump laughing whilst people stormed the capital, some of you happily commenting about it but it was fake news lollll where are you now to admit it wasn't true

I was one who posted the vid originally. I wrongly thought it was as the Capitol was being stormed. Within minutes I retracted that statement (look back if you can be arsed).
However to call a rally inciting violence whilst the President Elect was being certificated and urging the thousands to 'be strong, go to the Capitol, fight it' was abominable. It was a fair election that had been judged so by many outside bodies.

I will link again to this which I doubt you have read. The incitement to insurrection.

Drop the federal exection thing, you are losing on that one by the way.

twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1347908845281095680

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OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 15/01/2021 22:28

PMK

boatyardblues · 15/01/2021 22:30

[quote Gingaaarghpussy]@boatyardblues

Now that's just meanSad[/quote]
My bad gingaaar. I realised after I posted it sounded like I was having a dig at you when it was the thread 221 complainer I was aiming at. With Trump banned from all the mainstream platforms who knows where he might pop up next.

boatyardblues · 15/01/2021 22:32

#121, not 221. ^ The last 4 years have felt like 221 threads-worth of material.

BruceAndNosh · 15/01/2021 22:33

I am quite concerned about what Trump might be cooking up with My pillow guy (real name Mike Lindell).

RedToothBrush · 15/01/2021 22:35

I like this being under AIBU for many reasons.

Not least because i wish more people were aware of whats happening in the world and care about political things not just nerds.

RedToothBrush · 16/01/2021 03:15

Omg. The MyPillow Guy Story is INSANE!

This relates to the photo taken by a Washington Post photographer of a man holding a document which could partially be read.

So basically a Pillow Salesman who has been putting stuff on Facebook about how Trump will remain President went to meet Trump today with a document (apparently from a mysterious unnamed lawyer) detailing a 5th Column Attack involving invoking the Insurrection Act and Martial Law if necessary whilst blaming Iran and China for inferring in the election on behalf of Biden.

The NYT has since spoken to the MyPillow guy who says it definitely didn't say martial law (a white house insider says it definitely did and my eyesight isnt that bad) and that trump definitely wasn't interested.

Which still begs the question

Why the fuck was trump meeting with the pillow sales guy? Does he normally personally meet door to door sales? Or just ones carrying notes from mystery lawyers with coup d'etat plans?

Its 3am uk time and im left wondering what the actual fuck ive been reading in the Washington post and on twitter.

borntobequiet · 16/01/2021 03:33

Here are some early AIBU Trump threads. It’s nice to see current posters, old friends and of course visitors. (Apologies to anyone with the initial C who I may have inadvertently offended.)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2524484--to-think-surely-nobody-will-vote-Donald-Trump-now

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2557900-Could-Donald-Trump-be-the-next-Hitler

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2583785-To-worry-about-a-world-where-Donald-Trump-is-Americas-president

Furries · 16/01/2021 06:06

I’m going to derail slightly here. And I know I could “look at google”, but sometimes the search results are too much to plough through! I’m more interested in views from “over the pond” and those in the UK.

Im not well versed in politics (and it’s something I know I need to be more clued up on). I’m in the UK and I struggle each time I have to vote because I don’t believe in either of the 2 main parties, but I also don’t think the other parties will gain power.

I’m going to use some very general terms now, they may cause offence, I don’t mean them to, which is why I want to learn.

Trump is a republican. The republicans are the equivalent of our consecrate party. From a totally “clueless” point of view, his demographic of supporters seems unusual. What follows is really simplified, sorry!

In the US, it seems like the “ordinary man” supports Trump, yet the “rich’ support democrats. But in the UK it would typically be the ordinary man would support Labour and the rich gits support conservative,

Am not explaining this well!

To me, who you have representing your party is crucial.

If the UK version of democrats had an Obama then I think things could have been different here - the raft of labour leaders have not energised me to vote .