To think a "breathing" sex robot should be illegal

[CrotchBurn]

Apparently there is an AI sex robot that now has the feature of breathing (there's a video in the article in the link).

I don't really care how these ultra realistic sex dolls might help people for various reasons. I think in a world where men overwhelming treat women as unfeeling objects (yeah okay NAMALT), further blurring the lines between womens bodies and inanimate objects you can do what you want to is dangerous.

I think they should be illegal.

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/sex-robot-breathes-incredible-ai-23275331

@NoOneOwnsTheRainbow

I would have thought it breathed so men could switch on the breathing mode then go to sleep next to it and imagine there's someone beside them. DH has a doll. I thought it was a bit weird at first. But anyone who has spent 5 minutes on the online doll community forums would learn the men who shell out that much for the realistic ones treat them like princesses. Men who fuck over women and objectify them don't generally spend thousands on ordering a custom made doll with a realistic breathing mechanism and neither do people with a breath play fetish. A lot of people could learn something from the doll community.

I am honestly worried for you. Please run away from him.

I think it's a strange uncanny valley effect. To me the fact that sex dolls exist is already a little uncomfortable, but okay. Then over the past 10 years they have become more and more realistic creating an uncomfortably human look. This feels very borderline to me, but okay again, you can't police it. But the breathing is just a step too far. To me it crosses a line. It's interesting because in a way, by making them breathe, they're almost making these dolls human in a moral sense.

@Ostryga
I just read through the stories on that link you posted. It's terrible.

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@PicsInRed

Is it cynical of me to presume it needs to breathe so it can be suffocated?

They should be so illegal prison time is involved.

Oh God. Didn't even think of that. Horrible

@weaselwords unfortunately dolls like that exist. Stacey Dooley did a documentary in Japan and met with a man who had one and a few years ago a man in the UK was arrested for importing one! Those dolls should be and are illegal here, but adult dolls don't concern me, because I think they are used by people who may not be capable of forming a relationship with a women or meeting their physical needs for various reasons and I think owning a doll is less problematic that using sex work services because of the risk of trafficking etc...

@FrankButchersDickieBow

DH has a doll. I thought it was a bit weird at first. But anyone who has spent 5 minutes on the online doll community forums would learn the men who shell out that much for the realistic ones treat them like princesses

Fucking hell!!!

I know. Glad it’s not just me.

@cherrypie111

Well thankfully laws are decided by those with common sense, not MN hysteria

Mumsnet hysteria? Get thee gone to 4Chan or Redditt.

I do think they're creepy and grim but to me the breathing thing is to make it life like I wouldn't of jumped to violence and suffercation .

Weird, creepy and just not necessary.

True of fetish gear, whips and chains. If you can ban these robots, let’s ban fetish wear and BDSM stuff as well please.

Gosh, if my DH had a doll he treated like a princess I'd be:
A) jealous
B) freaked out
C) leaving

Many who just want to strangle someone won't spend god knows how much on a specialist doll. They will stick to good old fashioned torture porn.

You're being INCREDIBLY naive cherrypie. It's an escalation of behaviour: observing porn, enacting with dolls, enacting with real women. Like flashing. It escalates to groping, rubbing, sexual assault, rape.

I've no experience but maybe it breathes to make the person using it feel more like a real person.

Maybe having sex or whatever with the artificial toy saves it happening to a person - I don't know just wondering?
Although I am probably naive reading some of the comments immediately above! Shocked.

[quote ChocolateSantaisthebestkind]@weaselwords unfortunately dolls like that exist. Stacey Dooley did a documentary in Japan and met with a man who had one and a few years ago a man in the UK was arrested for importing one! Those dolls should be and are illegal here, but adult dolls don't concern me, because I think they are used by people who may not be capable of forming a relationship with a women or meeting their physical needs for various reasons and I think owning a doll is less problematic that using sex work services because of the risk of trafficking etc...[/quote]
I think in your scenario I would agree with you. If they are a step towards violence to real women then I wouldn't. I wonder if there is research about that?

@Hawkins001

If the robot is a life size replica of a lady, and I'd ask is the breathing been added to give the enhanced feeling of realism ? But to my original question, can mumsnetters explain how some of the toys that are available for women, eg the Siberian, various swings, various dildos and vibrators, various sex machines, eg the drildo ect how are they different from mens sex toys or robots ?

Maybe women don't routinely want to strangle dildos, sex swings etc?

You're being INCREDIBLY naive cherrypie. It's an escalation of behaviour: observing porn, enacting with dolls, enacting with real women. Like flashing. It escalates to groping, rubbing, sexual assault, rape.

You’re being incredibly Pearl clutchy. Teenagers play video games where they kill other people.. yes, this escalates to watching documentaries about murder, then murdering animals, then finally humans. Yes, in about 1 in a million cases! We don’t ban games or murder documentaries do we.

very disturbing:(

Its not my cup of tea by a long stretch, but if it gives a lonely man something to relieve themselves with, then its not doing anyone any harm.

To me its preferable to hours of violence porn which is the only other thing on offer.

I'm sorry. Did someone just compare having a sex doll to having a playstation?!

@NoOneOwnsTheRainbow

I would have thought it breathed so men could switch on the breathing mode then go to sleep next to it and imagine there's someone beside them. DH has a doll. I thought it was a bit weird at first. But anyone who has spent 5 minutes on the online doll community forums would learn the men who shell out that much for the realistic ones treat them like princesses. Men who fuck over women and objectify them don't generally spend thousands on ordering a custom made doll with a realistic breathing mechanism and neither do people with a breath play fetish. A lot of people could learn something from the doll community.

''Breath play''......don't you mean ''Death play''? Because that's really what it is, for men anyway.

The reason why they treat them like princesses is because they've spent thousands on them....of course they're going to treat them well!! It's like precious equipment.

I'm sure some of them are motivated by loneliness, low self-esteem or fear of abandonment and I feel bad for those men, but come on. You must see that a lot of it is driven by darker issues. A need to control, an unwillingness to accept that women are autonomous human beings with their own thoughts & feelings that can't be programmed like a computer (unless they are truly brainwashed), a need to fulfill sick fantasies that most women aren't going to like (and with good reason) and a desire to be with the underaged.

@weaselwords

To those who don’t think they are a big deal, How do you feel about them if they are made to look like a breathing 7 year old child? Is it hysteria to find that utterly repulsive?

Weird? Yes

Should be made illegal? No

There is a big gap between shit people find odd and stuff that should be made illegal

True of fetish gear, whips and chains. If you can ban these robots, let’s ban fetish wear and BDSM stuff as well please.

If there was any evidence that consensual BDSM was part of an escalating behaviour pattern that led to sexual assault and rape, you'd have a point. But there isn't so you don't.

Non-consensual activity however, and activity that mimics non-consent often is part of an escalating pattern though so the call to ban, or at least limit in lifelike-ness, is a reasonable one to hold.

@TheBuffster

I'm sorry. Did someone just compare having a sex doll to having a playstation?!

I know right!

Did someone just compare having a sex doll to having a playstation?!

Ok let’s compare it to having a punch bag then. According to MN everyone who enjoys a good session on a punchbag will become a domestic abuser if you carry the metaphor across.

And I think it says more about the disturbed psyche of some of the posters here that they believe the breathing is so that the doll can be strangled during 'sex'!

There is no hint of that, and anyone who thinks this is what they are for, are as sick minded as someone who would actualy like to do it.