To think this will largely be over in two months?!

[ChristmasIvy]

I’m home schooling at the moment and surprised by how many other parents seem to think that this lockdown could continue for the rest of the academic year. I’m expecting the worst of the lockdown to be over by Feb half term - I.e. when millions of the most vulnerable will have received the vaccine, winter is almost over, and the seasonal drain on the NHS is alleviated. What am I missing?! I also believe we will be able to go on “normal” holidays again by Easter...

I would go in the middle of the night or drive a distance as in Somerset no bid mass screening and wake husband just to get the vaccine Desperate to get it

I was agreeing with you until I mentioned this thread to teacher friends, who both insisted they wanted their vaccinations before they were happy to teach face to face again.
Made me stop & think again....

@ilovemygirls

I was agreeing with you until I mentioned this thread to teacher friends, who both insisted they wanted their vaccinations before they were happy to teach face to face again. Made me stop & think again....

I believe that some teachers will say it, but you got that sort of reaction from people last time, and guess what, schools reopened. In spite of it all, teachers generally want to teach more than not, so will buckle down and do it even if they are nervous.

Plus I have noticed that a lot of people talk like this when things are at the worst, but once the deaths number starts to fall and once other people have dipped a toe in the waters, others follow relatively quickly once they develop confidence and see other people doing things without danger.

(I don't blame them for feeling this way, but if society was only made up of people who waited for others to take the risk first, then nobody would do it and we'd all still be living in caves.)

@tobee

Anyway Princess, looking forward to your quote from credible peer reviewed scientist, saying as you said, that most people who need hospitalisation now will still need to be hospitalised after vaccination. As to what some random blokes are speculating on Twitter.

@tobee and @Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Let's circle back to this in a year.

You can tag me when they announce that nobody goes to hospital with covid any more.

To be fair, there’s a big difference between no one needing to be hospitalised and people being hospitalised at the same rate as they are now so your challenge is rather disingenuous @PrincessNutNuts

@TheChineseChicken

To be fair, there’s a big difference between no one needing to be hospitalised and people being hospitalised at the same rate as they are now so your challenge is rather disingenuous *@PrincessNutNuts*

Indeed.

But they will be from the same groups who we would expect to need hospitalising now.

As I said.

I mean, that’s really not what you said at all

Princess are you actually saying that everyone that needs hospital has underlying health conditions or because they do we should not be vaccinating them?

Which ever one it is the first is nonsense and the second is rather vile!

Anyway you sound very insightful. Sorry to be rude but your kind of thinking is dangerous and unhelpful.

@TheChineseChicken

I mean, that’s really not what you said at all

Princess is trying to dig out of a hole dug last night.

Not sure the truth will help with that.

I read it as her trying to suggest that there won’t be a decrease in the rate of hospitalisations, just that they might be shorter. Which is completely at odds with trial data. And let’s not forget that in a trial participants are watched very closely and are more likely to be hospitalised in the first place.

Anyway, I’m leaving this now.

@TheChineseChicken

I read it as her trying to suggest that there won’t be a decrease in the rate of hospitalisations, just that they might be shorter. Which is completely at odds with trial data. And let’s not forget that in a trial participants are watched very closely and are more likely to be hospitalised in the first place.

Anyway, I’m leaving this now.

I expect that most of the people who would have needed to go to hospital with covid before vaccination will still need to go to hospital.

They might need less intervention, and have a better survival rate. They may be ill for longer. And that in itself will kill some people.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

Princess are you actually saying that everyone that needs hospital has underlying health conditions or because they do we should not be vaccinating them?

Which ever one it is the first is nonsense and the second is rather vile!

Anyway you sound very insightful. Sorry to be rude but your kind of thinking is dangerous and unhelpful.

No.

OP Nothing wrong with hoping and I'm also hoping after half term, then March...I can't even allow myself to think it could be longer as I am getting through hour by hour day by day. Its so so so hard. I wont give up hope and dare think beyond that right now.

There were SO many doom & gloomers on here were smugly stating schools wouldn't return at all last year/definitely not before the summer... Schools DID go back for the summer term despite the gloomy predictions on here. They were wrong.

So I'm holding onto that hope.
People are already on the edge, loosing it, many will tart taking it out on their kids firstly by giving up home-schooling all together and then...doesn't even bear thinking about. The toll on the economy, on adults & kids mental health and physical health- as well as children's education is as important as bringing Covid rates down. Its a balancing act. You cant just completely sacrifice one to help the other- as the long-term results of longer-term school closures will be such a massive hit. Here's hoping...

This 100%!! Best thing I’ve read all week

Fuck no. No way

@marthastew

No 10 are planning for end of April. I have a friend who works there. I know everyone says this but I really do.

I wish you could tell us more @marthastew!