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To be outraged 2008 supersize vs skinny ?

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schlugt · 09/01/2021 20:07

Ok so I just randomly came across this on prime video. I used to watch this show when I was at uni and had lots of free time .

It is vile and fat shaming , Gillian McKeith just went round a town centre feeling women's bottoms , staring at them , judging them telling one woman it was like dough! Looking horrified . Then got a load of women into a building and got them to take their knickers off so she could judge them! Calling them the flabby bottom parade !

What really stood out for me was she did not stop any men in the town centre and no men in the take your knickers off stage !

Did anyone watch this and AIBU to think this was all in very bad taste ?

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EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 10/01/2021 08:13

Never seen it, from the description and comments it sounds unlikely that it would be commissioned now.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
There's tons of other recycled crap you can watch.

nininani · 10/01/2021 09:32

" if a woman is overweight and smelly that would be my fists nightmare " proceeds to play terrifying music whilst zooming in on Julie's layers of fat. Meanwhile Gillian is walking around a town centre approaches a lady ) who looks a size 10) with a young baby asks what her bottom is like and if it needs toning up?

Awful

StElsewhere · 10/01/2021 09:43

@Yoshinori @EggyPegg

@StElsewhere
I go from thread to thread fat shaming people?

Clearly me saying that no average woman should be eating as much as her average husband hit a nerve for you to remember so much.

Being fat is not healthy. Fat shaming is not a thing. Being a spiteful person and doing mean things intending to make someone feel down and insecure IS a thing. Nothing to do with being fat.

Now jog on! ( if u can wink )

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Yes, well your last sentence here tells us all exactly what sort of person you are. "a spiteful person and doing mean things intending to make someone feel down and insecure IS a thing." Which you do from thread to thread, as I said.

I'm unfortunately underweight at the moment due to my illness, so no I can't "jog" very far at all, but not for the reasons you imply in your nasty post.

randomer · 10/01/2021 09:56

Thin people can be unhealthy and fat people can be healthy.

Backbee · 10/01/2021 09:59

Thin people can be unhealthy and fat people can be healthy.

Someone who is either underweight or overweight is not as healthy as they would be at a healthy weight though. It's not about comparing people to eachother, but to themselves.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 10/01/2021 10:02

'Biggest Loser' was really good. Interesting and inspirational.

thecatsthecats · 10/01/2021 10:15

@Emeraldshamrock

Always found it an odd concept that the show's solution was to make each participant eat the other's really unhealthy diet to prove a point

I think it was partly to show the skinny person they could eat more and feel better, and the obese person
It was used to explode naturally skinny vs naturally fat when in reality one ate to little one ate to much both had an unbalanced appetite.

Yes. To be honest, I quite liked it.

Many of the super skinny people were also hugely active, running around all day between different responsibilities and occasionally eating half a cereal bar. Many of the super size lived irregular work patterns and often had a serious trauma in their past, or were heavily socialised to eat their feelings.

As someone who's lost six stone, I find it very frank and honest, and Gillian McKeith was only in one series. Christian Jessen was very good with both sides, IMO.

Both sides were shown sympathetically, both sides shown negative consequences and both sides supported to make changes. Having lost weight successfully myself, I can only say that I think the program was a positive example of the type that was common at the time. I didn't find it body shaming at all, and I bloody loathed You Are What You Eat and Trinny and Susanah.

user7778 · 10/01/2021 10:23

@CardoMondo

Flabby bottom parade 😂 I used to like Gok Wan when he called people “massive fatties”
That wasn't Gok Wan, that was the awful bloke on fat families
Norwayreally · 10/01/2021 11:04

My Mum loved programmes like that. She has body dysmorphia and is convinced she’s much bigger than she actually is. I spent my childhood reassuring her she wasn’t as fat as people we saw out and about or on programmes like that. Rather crass and outdated now, nobody would stand for a programme like that anymore.

feelingverylazytoday · 10/01/2021 11:18

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

She was going around feeling people's bottoms. If that were a man it'd be called assault. Where is the outrage, because I'm sorry if I've over looked it but I can't see any.
It's only assault if the person doesn't consent. Presumably people consented to being touched by Gillian McKeith so why would there be any outrage?
CardoMondo · 10/01/2021 11:20

@user7778 ah yes you’re right. He was awful! I quite like Gok

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 10/01/2021 11:30

“Get off those wobbly bums!” and he’d replace all their furniture with treadmills. There was one episode where the father of the family had a heart attack, he’d gone from doing nothing exercise wise to overdoing it and it was too much for a man so unfit and overweight Shock. Fat Families was savage!

alittleprivacy · 10/01/2021 11:41

Oh God. Out of curiosity I searched for this on Prime and it landed on series 7, so I chose to watch the one about two young mums. I was actually really disappointed to see that after the few days of eating each other's diets (minus snacks) that they didn't then go on to show them living in the clinic, eating for a week on their healthy meal plan. I think that would have been really lovely and interesting. To see these women going from these unhealthy extremes to eating good food. Getting to enjoy excellent, tasty food and feel better for it. Having someone work with them on what they enjoy and don't enjoy. Encourage them, especially the overweight person, to make healthy substitutes when they feel a need to snack. Involve their partners and families in their new way of eating. Make it a whole family change.

I'm someone who has always deeply enjoyed food. I loved it when I was overweight and when I set out to lose weight and maintain a healthy lifestyle, the key for me was to keep on enjoying food with the added bonus of feeling mentally really good about what I was eating. To always feel satisfied and happy in my food but to make it really good for me, was the key to losing weight. To just see the participants handed a folder with new meal plans and then see them back next month to hear their weights was not only unsatisfying as a viewer. But made me feel like the show wasn't even remotely fucking interested in their health. It was all just a sideshow act with no substance.

So, I looked up the participants, only to find that Lauren Hickson, the overweight woman, died three years later of a heart attack. Age 21. Leaving behind a 5 year old daughter. It's so sad. She went on that show for help and after being made entertaining for a few days, she was sent off on her way with a folder.

Emeraldshamrock · 12/01/2021 02:08

@alittleprivacy Awh that is really sad especially as she put herself forward for the show to change her life.

1forAll74 · 12/01/2021 02:43

Gillian Mckeith was a scrawny little pest of a woman, so should not be on any TV things.I probably watched some of that programme, but can't really remember too much about it now.

Sinful8 · 12/01/2021 02:47

@1forAll74

Gillian Mckeith was a scrawny little pest of a woman, so should not be on any TV things.I probably watched some of that programme, but can't really remember too much about it now.
Interesting that with all the "fat shaming" accusations flying around "scrawny little pest of a woman" seems fine to use.
ZaraCarmichaelshighheels · 12/01/2021 03:01

@thenightsky

There was one about fussy eaters too that was good.
I loved that one! The only foods they ate were chips and chocolate, Harry Hill used to take the absolute piss out of them on TV Burp, mmmm chips!
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