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To be outraged 2008 supersize vs skinny ?

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schlugt · 09/01/2021 20:07

Ok so I just randomly came across this on prime video. I used to watch this show when I was at uni and had lots of free time .

It is vile and fat shaming , Gillian McKeith just went round a town centre feeling women's bottoms , staring at them , judging them telling one woman it was like dough! Looking horrified . Then got a load of women into a building and got them to take their knickers off so she could judge them! Calling them the flabby bottom parade !

What really stood out for me was she did not stop any men in the town centre and no men in the take your knickers off stage !

Did anyone watch this and AIBU to think this was all in very bad taste ?

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Sometimeswinning · 09/01/2021 23:26

In fairness, she looks in decent shape and her daughters are a healthy weight. The clothes on the other hand....

Agree with all this! Her legs are amazing. Her hairstyles are cringe!

Love how this thread about body shaming shows has turned into a body shaming thread!

TooManyKidsSendHelp · 09/01/2021 23:30

I get what you mean but I think it's a product of it's time. You could say this about loads of older tv programmes. Even Friends was pretty bad for fat shaming women, and that was considered very tame and inoffensive at the time.

Gillian McKeith was total shite.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 09/01/2021 23:31

I'm reminded of that documentary film ' 'Supersize me' where a bloke went round eating at fast food places, with the rule that whenever he was offered a supersize portion, he had to eat it. After a couple of days he was throwing up in the car parks.

Morgan Spurlock. WHO WAS SLIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. He was the guy who ate nothing but McDonalds food for a month.

Anyoldname12 · 09/01/2021 23:32

@Yoshinori there are ways and means of making your point, if you wanted to objectively state facts “the average male burns more calories than the average female” suffixes.
“No wife should eat more than her husband” is projected horseshite and the only thing that “should” be done here is you should fuck off.

Gingerkittykat · 09/01/2021 23:35

I actually liked seeing the weeks worth of food laid out on the table in the GM show, it made me think about what my own table would look like. At the time I drank around 1l of full sugar cherry coke a day and the thought of seeing a huge vat of sugary drink repulsed me.

Ben Goldacre on his bad science website refers to Gillian McKeith as the awful poo lady (TAPL) which always amuses me!

Goldieloxx · 09/01/2021 23:38

Always found it an odd concept that the show's solution was to make each participant eat the other's really unhealthy diet to prove a point

Cash02 · 09/01/2021 23:42

@Goldieloxx

Always found it an odd concept that the show's solution was to make each participant eat the other's really unhealthy diet to prove a point
I think it was partly to show the skinny person they could eat more and feel better, and the obese person could eat less and not starve.
Lillyhatesjaz · 09/01/2021 23:59

I used to like super size v super skinny. Did anyone else notice that the face cream that sponsored the show used to say
Super skinny sponsors x face cream
As though they didn't want to be associated with the super size part I think there must have been complaints as the wording changed for the later shows

Goldieloxx · 09/01/2021 23:59

@cash02 good point, it just felt a little irresponsible

ithinkyouareveryrude · 10/01/2021 00:07

I started watching secret eaters on Amazon prime - it was laugh out loud shocking.

‘Let’s see what Miriam shoves in her big gullet this week’

‘Sandra’s crying she’s fat but if she would put down that Big Mac for five minutes she might realise she’s the problem.’

‘Is Julie wants to make a change she needs to get over the fact her husband left her. She isn’t going to find anyone new at the bottom of a multipack of crisps’

How there were never multiple complains to ofcom is beyond me!

ElizaLaLa · 10/01/2021 00:10

People weren't the whinging cry baby snowflakes that they are today.

Viviennemary · 10/01/2021 00:11

I used to like x-weighted. At the beginning the guy charged in and thossed out all the bad foods from their fridge. Then put them through a punishing exercise circuit. It was good armchair viewing with a coffee and biscuit(s)

Emeraldshamrock · 10/01/2021 00:17

Always found it an odd concept that the show's solution was to make each participant eat the other's really unhealthy diet to prove a point

I think it was partly to show the skinny person they could eat more and feel better, and the obese person
It was used to explode naturally skinny vs naturally fat when in reality one ate to little one ate to much both had an unbalanced appetite.

roarfeckingroarr · 10/01/2021 00:19

I used to love that show.

thenightsky · 10/01/2021 00:20

There was one about fussy eaters too that was good.

Changi · 10/01/2021 00:24

It’s hardly misogynistic, they have plenty of men on there

If I remember correctly, one week it was a fat man, the next it was a fat woman.

EggyPegg · 10/01/2021 00:25

[quote Yoshinori]@EggyPegg

Let's take you on your word, taking the average of a healthy weight range, 184 pounds.
I have estimated you and your husband to be lets say 35.
To maintain this weight, sedentary, he would need to consume 2,207 calories a day.

On average a size 6 person is between 110 and 140 pounds depending on height. You say your 5'0 so let's go on the medium to low side and go with 120 pounds. To maintain your weight you would need 1,393 calories.

Thereby, there is no way you eat the same or EVEN BIGGER portions as your 6'2 husband and stay the same weight.

People's metabolism can range but the idea a super high metabolism can make up for eating so much as you claim is absolutely silly.

Either you have some how managed to break science or you have a surprise the next time you weigh yourself. Its silly how people make up science for the sake of it.[/quote]
Except you know nothing about our individual lifestyles, but claim that there is NO WAY I can be telling the truth.

You don't know that I'm vegetarian, so my diet is based much more around fresh food than his. You don't know that he's fairly sedentary, but that I'm very active. The two combined are what keep my portion sizes high and my weight steady.

You also know very little about height vs weight vs clothes size because 120lb would make me 8.5 stone. I was a size 10 at that weight. I'm actually 106lbs and as you can see, I have a perfectly healthy BMI.

Its silly how people decide others are making things up just because they've never experienced it.

To be outraged 2008 supersize vs skinny ?
DimidDavilby · 10/01/2021 00:49

I bet she weighs less than you @yoshinori
That's not healthy you know!

DressingGownofDoom · 10/01/2021 01:19

@ithinkyouareveryrude

I started watching secret eaters on Amazon prime - it was laugh out loud shocking.

‘Let’s see what Miriam shoves in her big gullet this week’

‘Sandra’s crying she’s fat but if she would put down that Big Mac for five minutes she might realise she’s the problem.’

‘Is Julie wants to make a change she needs to get over the fact her husband left her. She isn’t going to find anyone new at the bottom of a multipack of crisps’

How there were never multiple complains to ofcom is beyond me!

This has really made me laugh, and I'm definitely a candidate for the super size part of the show!

There used to be loads of shows like this. Remember the Biggest Loser and Secret Eaters. They were really good inspiration when on a diet - I used to watch them when I was on my exercise bike!

feelingverylazytoday · 10/01/2021 01:39

[quote SpreadeagledSquire]@yvanka omg yes! Fat Families!! That evil vicious presenter who used to call the families taking part degrading names such as “The Tubby Turners” and “The Flabby Flanders” Shock he was really savage and abusive! A zealot for shaming![/quote]
Steve Miller. I think he's great. He used to be fat himself so he knew what he was talking about.

Sinful8 · 10/01/2021 05:01

[quote nininani]@2021optimist . Get a grip ! Can't talk about covid 24/7 and surprisingly we are still allowed to feel things for things other than covid ! [/quote]
I think optimist was more pointing out that getting wound up by a 13 year old TV show is really just looking for things to complain about

Sinful8 · 10/01/2021 05:05

*didn't see that thread. But I can tell you based on this comment that you're talking shit.
I eat the same, and sometimes bigger, portion sizes as my husband. I'm 5'0 and a size 6. He's 6'2 and an average size for his height. Not skinny, not overweight, broad shoulders.

Those portion sizes are at dinner time. I also have a huge (healthy) breakfast, a big snack mid morning, decent sized lunch and an afternoon snack too. He's more a two meals a day man. It's a running joke how much I eat.
So I do eat as much (in one meal) as him. Over the course of the day, significantly more. I don't have an eating disorder, just a fast metabolism.

And your parting sentence tells us all exactly what sort of person you are.*

Its funny how you go on and on about how you eat the bigger portions, but decide to drip feed the info that you're eating entirely diffetnt meals....

Do you think you did that because it invalidated your point?

aintnothinbutagstring · 10/01/2021 05:15

I only seen her on You are What you Eat, that's the one where she looked at poo. I only watched Supersize Vs superskinny with Dr Jessen and I think there was another Dr type person on it, I didn't find it 'shaming' as such when he did it as he seems a nice guy, more drawing attention to the downfalls of both eating too much or too little. But yes it is weight voyeurism and where they put all the food they've eaten in a tube splatting out into a big pile.

Wearethetwirl · 10/01/2021 05:37

I remember at the time being taken aback by the show and it's dubious premise of swapping two unhealthy meals around.

But I knew an editor who worked on some high profile weight loss TV programmes. He told me that quite regularly participants did not lose any weight at the end, in fact some even gained weight. Their solution? Rig the scales at the weigh in and lie about the weight loss to avoid wasting hours of filming.

Given some of the methods deployed in these programmes, I don't know why this revelation surprised me so much!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/01/2021 08:09

She was going around feeling people's bottoms. If that were a man it'd be called assault. Where is the outrage, because I'm sorry if I've over looked it but I can't see any.

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