On our way to Biden's Inauguration (Trump #119)

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Jon Sopel is talking to a large British audience, most of whom couldn’t give a shit about the history of the NFL. Given that context, Bill Belichick is clearly the ‘most famous’ coach.

Most famous does not equal ‘a saint’.
‘Most successful ever’ does equal ‘most famous’.

@BlueCatRedCat

Merrymouse, hopefully one of the US posters will correct me if I am wrong, but I think the key state authority wrt state security is the governorship.

This is correct. Each state's governor has authority over their own state.

Remember that we are the United STATES of America, not the "Country of America". The Constitution gives the power of self-governance and self-regulation to each individual state, with the Federal Govt having 'final authority' over state laws that conflict with the Constitution or federal regulation. That's why you'll see different laws in different states, with some laws being the same due to federal regulations. A simple example is that different states have different (federal) Interstate highway speed limits, but all states have the same legal drinking age (21) due to federal mandate.

As far as DC being a state, the reason it isn't is because when the capital of the US was first being established TPTB wanted it to be in a separate 'district' so as not to be influenced by the government of the state in which it was located. At the time the area was sparsely populated and I suspect they figured the population didn't need the protection that being a state would give it. Obviously, it's different now.

I'd love to see a movement for statehood for DC and for Puerto Rico. IF that's what the residents want.

As far as DC being a state, the reason it isn't is because when the capital of the US was first being established TPTB wanted it to be in a separate 'district' so as not to be influenced by the government of the state in which it was located. At the time the area was sparsely populated and I suspect they figured the population didn't need the protection that being a state would give it. Obviously, it's different now.

The founding fathers would have known that ultimately whoever controlled Rome controlled the Empire. (This being two days after Caesar crossed the Rubicon on 10th January in 49BC ...)

In a true democracy everyone would vote on everything.

I know a society that works on that basis. I believe last time they had to change the colour of the carpet in the clubhouse the meeting went on for 4 hours and nearly ended in a fist fight.
Important issues normally get sorted much easier.

I assume that the state of DC would forever be Democratic, as would Puerto Rico. The Biden administration could potentially oversee some astonishing changes.

The ever entertaining Seth Meyers having a good vent about the Republican "appeal for unity" hypocrisy. I am betting the same Republicans would have happily seen Obama impeached for any of the following - all treated by them as major misdemeanours at the time:

Wearing a tan suit;
Putting his feet up on his desk;
Saluting whist in possession of a coffee cup;
Eating dijon mustard;
Marrying a woman who wears sleeveless tops;
Presidenting while black.

@AcrossthePond55

"Bill Belichick is also one of the most hated football coaches in the country, engaged in all sorts of cheating for years. Just another rat fleeing the ship going down, he'll get no points for this."

@dreamingbohemian

No shit! As far as 'most famous' has Sopel never heard of Bear Bryant, Tom Landry, and Vincent Lombardi? And those are just three within my living memory!

I mean, I'm glad he turned it down and all, but let's not make a saint out of the man.

Absolutely!

I understand the reporter was trying to explain who he was for the benefit of non-football watchers but at this point he is more infamous than famous.

Witchend
"In a true democracy everyone would vote on everything."
I know a society that works on that basis. I believe last time they had to change the colour of the carpet in the clubhouse the meeting went on for 4 hours and nearly ended in a fist fight.
Important issues normally get sorted much easier.

I knew a I shan't name them, some people might know even so religious group which believes in consensus not majority vote. One particular town had a rather inconveniently-designed place at which they met to worship each Sunday, whose kitchen-area was at one end of a hall and whose coffee-after-service table was at the other, meaning that everything had to be carried all the way along it as soon as the service was over, while the congregation milled out and stood around in the way.

It was proposed that the table might be moved to the other end of the hallway, as being a lot more convenient.

This was approved by almost everyone. However, two elderly women who had always done it that way were opposed to the idea. So we had to wait for them to die before moving the table.

@BlueCatRedCat

I assume that the state of DC would forever be Democratic, as would Puerto Rico. The Biden administration could potentially oversee some astonishing changes.

I can see why you'd think that, but it's not necessarily true. Counties and states do 'flip and flip again' over time as population centres change and parties 'adjust' their platforms and lose or gain supporters.

The South was originally Democrat (when it was the party of slavery and 'State's Rights') and at one time Republican was the party of equality. California had a period of being solidly 'red'. My own (unfortunately red) county is starting to trend blue due to shifting population. Orange County Ca has been red for decades and just flipped blue. Time (and politics) stands still for no man (or woman).

It looks like fur hat and horns guy is going to be just fine in prison
In response, the judge ordered the Marshal for the District of Arizona to provide Chansley with “food in line with a shaman's strict organic diet”. (BBC news)

[quote BlueCatRedCat]The ever entertaining Seth Meyers having a good vent about the Republican "appeal for unity" hypocrisy. I am betting the same Republicans would have happily seen Obama impeached for any of the following - all treated by them as major misdemeanours at the time:

Wearing a tan suit;
Putting his feet up on his desk;
Saluting whist in possession of a coffee cup;
Eating dijon mustard;
Marrying a woman who wears sleeveless tops;
Presidenting while black.

[/quote] ... wearing a loud shirt in a built up area after dark being in possession of an offensive wife being in possession of thick lips and curly hair ..

@BlueCatRedCat

I assume that the state of DC would forever be Democratic, as would Puerto Rico. The Biden administration could potentially oversee some astonishing changes.

Indeed, DC is about 90% registered Democrat, and it is a sign of how hopeless the Democrat Party has been in the modern era that it has never seriously pursued DC statehood.

There is a major racial aspect to it as DC has long been an overwhelmingly African American city -- you'll see a lot of references to DC being a modern day plantation, i.e. ruled over by a small white elite in Congress. Now thanks to gentrification it's on the way to becoming a majority white city and oh look, now maybe it will become a state

"I understand the reporter was trying to explain who he was for the benefit of non-football watchers but at this point he is more infamous than famous."

@dreamingbohemian

Yup.

www.rawstory.com/morning-joe-today-2649903923/

nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-authoritarianism-capitol-insurrection-mob-coup.html

rump demanded, and received, a level of personal deference from his party that no president has ever been granted. His subordinates slathered him with rituals of praise that seemed almost North Korean. He gleefully ended the careers of numerous Republicans, both in politics and media, who had dared defy him. Every time Trump crossed a new line, Republicans had to decide whether speaking up against it was worth the likelihood that they would never work in politics again.

The danger posed by Trump’s contempt for democratic values was one of probabilities. The worst possible outcomes did not transpire. Even so, the minds that spent four years dismissing the danger, often to justify giving Trump even more power, hardly look any better for it. We entrusted a sociopathic instinctive authoritarian with the most powerful office in the world. What did we think would happen?

Intrigued to see some donors to the more off-grid senators want their money back.

I wonder if there is a legal precedent in the US for this, and when we can see it in the UK ?

popular.info/p/three-major-corporations-say-they

Hallmark took an even more decisive stance. The company told Popular Information that it will be requesting refunds from the Senators it had donated to who had objected to the certification of the results, stating that these Senators’ actions do not reflect the “company’s values.” During the 2020 election cycle, Hallmark’s PAC donated $5,000 to Marshall and $3,000 to Hawley.

Apologies if this has been posted already but this excerpt from Death to 2020 has Lisa Kudrow nailing McNinny

Sorry for the screenshot.

The BBC news article states Trump cannot fire Pence.

But let's say Trump did want to get rid of Pence , would he have to do something similar to 25th amendment?

I know Trumps normal "lines to take" is to insite insurgents to kidnap Pence, but legally how would one do it?

His subordinates slathered him with rituals of praise that seemed almost North Korean.

A comment in a recent magazine about what other country would make such a thing of restaging a leaders funeral 50 years after the event :

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/30/winston-churchill-50th-anniversary-of-funeral-commemorated

asked in what other country would that happen. The only answer seems to be North Korea.

Whatever the US has, they can blame it on Britain.

Love Lisa and she has McNinny off to a T!

I hadn't seen Lisa Kudrow before.

[quote BruceAndNosh]Apologies if this has been posted already but this excerpt from Death to 2020 has Lisa Kudrow nailing McNinny

[/quote] That is brilliant

Love that little snippet of Hugh in the Lisa videos!

Trump now - if you can bear to watch it.

He bears no responsibility and more or less says that there will be more violence if he is impeached. In other words 'if you hold me accountable, I'll incite more violence'. (words taken from a tweet)

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