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On our way to Biden's Inauguration (Trump #119)

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Roussette · 09/01/2021 11:21

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Janonomouse · 11/01/2021 02:29

I think its heavily edited but is his voice.

I wasnt even sure about posting the video tbh. Its terrifying.

I'm confident that the FBI/whoever will be taking the threat very seriously and appropriate security will be in place for the inauguration, but the potential for more bloodshed over Donald Fucking Trump is alarming.

TurquoiseBaubles · 11/01/2021 02:35

If he can't be persuaded to condemn that and call for peace on the 20th he should be immediately removed. He shouldn't be allowed to travel to Texas or anywhere else.

If Pence sees that and doesn't make Trump condemn it he is responsible for any violence that occurs on the 20th.

Furries · 11/01/2021 02:49

@TurquoiseBaubles - very good point. Celebrities sue fairly often when their “image” is used in an unauthorised way for advertising campaigns. So Trump needs to hit back at this straight away for them using his image and voice. Except ...

JamieLeesCurtains · 11/01/2021 02:59

Pence's name is on those placards in that video.

I wonder if Pence will condemn it? The Parler website is still up there.

Destinysdaughter · 11/01/2021 03:11

It's like one of those Nazi propaganda films.

Furries · 11/01/2021 03:14

But blooming late, but White House flag is finally at half mast for the policeman who lost his life in the riots.

cbt944 · 11/01/2021 03:31

@Destinysdaughter

It's like one of those Nazi propaganda films.
That's what I thought. Arnie's film, linked above, is a nice antidote.
mathanxiety · 11/01/2021 05:07

My two DDs who live in DC report the city is filling up with MAGA types.

mathanxiety · 11/01/2021 05:20

From the Wikipedia entry on Virginia Thomas
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Thomas

Lifespring

In the 1980s, while a congressional aide, Thomas took training with the self-awareness program Lifespring.[59] In 1987, she related to The Washington Post that, during her training several years earlier, she had been "confused and troubled" by lessons such as one where trainees were told to disrobe to bikinis and bathing suits then "made fun of fat people's bodies and riddled one another with sexual questions".[59] After realizing that membership in her Lifespring group was separating her from her family, friends, and co-workers, Thomas began what proved to be a difficult and months-long process of breaking away.[59] At one point, she hid in another part of the U.S. to avoid a constant barrage of high-pressure phone calls from Lifespring members, who felt they had a duty to keep her in the organization.[5][59][60][61]

Thomas ultimately came to believe that Lifespring was a cult.[5] After leaving the group in 1985, she sought counseling and joined the Cult Awareness Network.[5][62] She became a critic of controversial religious groups, speaking on panels and organizing anti-cult workshops for Congressional staffers in 1986 and 1988.[5] In a 1991 interview, Thomas remarked, "I was once in a group that used mind control techniques"; and she called its members "pretty scary people."[63]

On the morning of January 6th, 2021, Virginia Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, endorsed the protest demanding that Congress overturn the election in a Facebook post and sent her “LOVE” to the demonstrators, who violently overtook the Capitol several hours later. She has not posted since.[citation needed]

Thomas, a conservative lobbyist and zealous supporter of Donald Trump, has fervently defended the president over the last four years. On her Facebook page, she frequently promotes baseless conspiracy theories about a “coup” against Trump led by Jewish philanthropist George Soros, a frequent target of anti-Semitic hate. Thomas draws many of these theories from fringe corners of the internet, including an anti-vax Facebook group that claimed Bill Gates would use the COVID vaccine to kill people. In recent months, she also amplified unsubstantiated corruption claims against Joe Biden while insisting, falsely, that the Obama administration illegally spied on Trump’s 2016 campaign, then tried to rig the election against him.[citation needed]

The irony leaps off the screen, doesn't it?

Her entire career is a sad reflection on the state of the USA.

Mally2020 · 11/01/2021 05:25

I think a bad group always undermines the great potential of a good group that being said, counting down the day till kamala Harris will eventually be in power after joe, love her. Despite my neutral beliefs

Wackadoo · 11/01/2021 05:56

Perhaps I've been watching too much Homeland, but I have been wondering about the involvement in all this chaos behind the scenes and in the dark corners of the internet by state players such as Russia and China.

Rahrahgurl · 11/01/2021 06:53

[quote Janonomouse]So it seems like there are more sinister plans under way for the 20th...

video.parler.com/D2/fo/D2fovQB1v4M2_small.mp4?fbclid=IwAR1vRw4bocsL-9YLby7NU-8p1F9AHqE0LmTON_AkRyQ9leHhz0-fCN158Fg[/quote]
What the actual fuck?

That is beyond scary and a call to a bloodbath

ArrrMeHearties · 11/01/2021 07:06

I've just read Arnold schwarzneggers speech that he made rebuking trump and comparing the capitol riots to kristallnacht. Very powerful and moving speech indeed i felt www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/capitol-riot-schwarzenegger-rebukes-trump-kristallnacht

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 11/01/2021 07:13

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Has anyone else noticed that Trump has taken to talking about himself in the first person plural? "We love you" in that calm-it-down speech of his, and "And we become president and you are the happiest people" in his speech before the actual march on the Capitol have rather bounced out at me.
Catching up here as politics induced exhaustion set in over the week-end, so, sorry if this has already been remarked on - this reminds me of when "The Donald" talked about himself in the third person whilst campaigning (and possibly before that, I don't know). It's as if his life had been a reality TV series with him narrating it, and now he's a self-appointed king. We are not amused.
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 11/01/2021 07:15

@overworkedhubby

You are not simple--we are now seeing the USA in its true colours now Trump has peeled away the veneer of US respectability, the US will never again be viewed as the worlds protector of freedom and democracy. How does a nation so powerful put itself into the hands of a mentally retarded idiot, freshly escaped from some unsecure asylum. Never has a nation taken such a downfall while the nation looks on pacified and subdued and treating the whole episode as a joke. America has been destroyed in its standing and respect the whole world over and now stands for nothing really. Just so glad I am not from there.
I'm afraid I completely agree, harsh as this is. Sad
merrymouse · 11/01/2021 07:19

Re: 3rd person plural, I think it’s because he does not see his supporters (or anyone else for that matter) as separate autonomous people with their own concerns.

DebbieFiderer · 11/01/2021 07:29

I like the way the guy that compiled that video helpfully put his name at the end in case the FBI want to ask him any questions!

Roussette · 11/01/2021 08:01

That Parler vid is horrifying. Some of what he was saying was taken from his inauguration speech which I remember made me feel uneasy at the time.

We knew this was going to be bad back then. We just didn't realise how bad.

One small thing... we know how much Trump loves his golf. How satisfying that the PGA has banned all its tournaments from Trump golf courses. Because of the attempted coup. He will hate this.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 11/01/2021 08:04

Somewhere upthread, did I read that Trump is legally/constitutionally allowed to pardon himself? How can that be right, if true? Could someone confirm that I misunderstood?

BruceAndNosh · 11/01/2021 08:19

[quote PatriciaHolm]Apologies if this has been touched on already, but apparently Trump is planning a trip to Alamo, Texas, on Tuesday, to crow about his wall. It isn't where "The Alamo" is, that's in San Antonio some 250m away, but surely it's not a coincidence....

Apparently MAGA think he's already been smuggled to Texas, as part of the Grand Revolution...

www.expressnews.com/news/us-world/border-mexico/article/Trump-plans-Texas-border-trip-with-just-days-left-15859908.php[/quote]
The town of Alamo has definitely been chosen because of the geographical dog whistle name. Just like Rudy held one of his hotel "hearings" in Gettysburg.
Alamo is part of a larger conurbation but they have opted not to use THAT name.

The jokes about Guiliani going to Alamo Car Rental at Dulles Airport are everywhere

BruceAndNosh · 11/01/2021 08:23

[quote ArrrMeHearties]I've just read Arnold schwarzneggers speech that he made rebuking trump and comparing the capitol riots to kristallnacht. Very powerful and moving speech indeed i felt www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/capitol-riot-schwarzenegger-rebukes-trump-kristallnacht[/quote]
Some idiot Republican referred to losing twitter followers as a Cyber Kristallnacht.
Not surprisingly, he's getting his arse handed to him on a plate

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/01/2021 08:30

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Somewhere upthread, did I read that Trump is legally/constitutionally allowed to pardon himself? How can that be right, if true? Could someone confirm that I misunderstood?
The short answer seems to be "nobody really knows". No President has ever tried to do this, possibly because no other President apart from Nixon has needed to, and Nixon cut a deal for the incoming President to do it for him after he resigned from office. There are arguments being made both ways, he can and he can't.
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 11/01/2021 08:31

Again, apologies if this has already been posted - Colin Powell announced on CNN that he no longer considers himself a "Fellow Republican".
edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/10/colin-powell-no-longer-republican-trump-capitol-riot-gps-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/
Also, I found this thread on Twitter. Scary stuff. I think it's genuine.
twitter.com/TerryBoutonHist/status/1348365375449268226?s=20

terrywynne · 11/01/2021 08:39

I came across this image which I found pretty relevant and expressed some of what I feel about wanting to be tolerant but also feeling that avoiding impeachment (to avoid inflaming a situation) will allow right wing extremism to feel they can continue to push the boundaries.

On our way to Biden's Inauguration (Trump #119)
Roussette · 11/01/2021 08:42

I read that TerryBouton thread about what he saw ... it's a long thread and describes it well.
He isn't a journalist. He calls himself an 'observer'. But there's too fine a line between being an observer and a paticipant. He could observe on telly. To be fair to him he does appear to be some sort of historian but still.....
I'm just cynical probably

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