Why does everyone hate Boris?

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Just that really. I neither like nor dislike him I don't feel any emotion towards him.
AIBU to ask why so many people on here hate/dislike Boris Johnson?

That was how they felt about the Labour party Peregrina. I don't know how they feel now I haven't spoken to them much recently. I'm sure they're relatively happy that the party they voted for [Cons] have respected the ref result and taken us out of the EU.

Peregrina - I don't think Boris Johnson ever did really support Trump in the way you are suggesting - prime ministers in office don't usually voice their thoughts on the personal failings of other world leaders.

He's a politician. I hate them all, they're fucking useless.

Guy Fawkes had the right idea, he should be made a saint.

Starmer isn't at all honest in my view, he's every bit as devious as Corbyn. Witness his cow-towing to the racist zealots of BLM. Even though he must know by now that BLM has become just a front for leftist thugs. He's even signed himself and his party up for something chilling called "Unconscious Bias Training". How Gulag is that? Just another name for Marxist "false consciousness". He quickly jumped on the BLM bandwagon and fell so fast to his knee that he must have got carpet burn. Then, when the truth about these thugs came out, he rowed back when it started to appear that people were cottoning on to how vile their aims were. Then he gets berated by some zealot on LBC and he's now rowed back on his row back and is now submitting himself to er re-programming. No, Starmer is a devout coward, there's nothing honest about him

@Peregrina

Clavinova - when the Tory party knifes Johnson in the back, will you still support him, or will you do as Johnson, Patel, Raab, Gove etc. are now doing with Trump and pretend that didn't really support him?

Don't think they can't knife him. They turned on Maggie Thatcher in a most brutal blood letting.

All political careers end in failure ultimately apart from a few exceptions. Maggie left No 10 in tears but BJ will skip off into the sunset. He's got the hide of a rhino.

a skipping rhino
that I want to see

@Clavinova

Peregrina - I don't think Boris Johnson ever did really support Trump in the way you are suggesting - prime ministers in office don't usually voice their thoughts on the personal failings of other world leaders.

BJ only supported DT insofar as it might benefit him. Remember Macron's love-in with Trump?

@Jaypreen

"something chilling called "Unconscious Bias Training". How Gulag is that?"

This has to be one of the most uninformed things I have ever read 😂

@ListeningQuietly

a skipping rhino that I want to see

You will see it I promise.

Derxa
When I become a refugee up in Prettybirds garden, I'll stop off at your farm on my way north and see how well it gets on with your sheep

I don't hate him. I don't think he's a great PM and he's certainly not the best person to have in No 10 during a pandemic, but I don't have any personal feelings about people I don't know. I don't care that he cheats on his wives or that he has illegitimate DC, because it has zero bearing on my life. I wish he'd been more proactive in his leadership during this crisis, but I don't hate him. Why would I?

I don't think Boris Johnson ever did really support Trump in the way you are suggesting

I think the Scots term for this is Aye, right.

@ListeningQuietly

Derxa When I become a refugee up in Prettybirds garden, I'll stop off at your farm on my way north and see how well it gets on with your sheep

Sorry we don't have strong enough fences for a rhino. I'm not sure how welcome an English Tory rhino would be either around here. Boris has treated wee David Mundell terribly so I don't think there'll be a welcome in the hillside.

NoWordForFluffy
Why do we require leisure travel during a pandemic, Clav?

I'm not really talking about leisure travel across the NI/ROI border - trade, people crossing the border every day for work?

So, by now, everyone on the UK mainland could go about their business, having eliminated Covid like New Zealand - but citizens from NI on a leisure trip wouldn't be allowed in without a 14 day quarantine until Ireland was Covid-free as well - for another year?

Clearly, the sane thing to do was to stop leisure travel and have the same requirements in place in relation to food/manufacturing imports as are now in place to cross the Channel (i.e. a negative test).

What makes you think the science/capability/accuracy for the rapid test was available back in February 2020? How many hours/days would truck drivers have to wait for a negative test back in February/March/April? Wouldn't EU countries have to carry out the tests before allowing trucks onto ferries/through the tunnel? What if those countries said they couldn't manage the testing? Or foreign drivers decided not to transport goods to the UK because of the hassle of being tested?

Why are we talking about what happened nearly a year ago. Mind you, if Boris Johnson and cronies had been mindful of what was happening in China a year ago, they could have tried closing our borders then. But they were otherwise distracted, I recall. Then we had the world beating test and trace, which really ought to have delivered the goods by about May or June.

Schools first locked down in March 2020
but the promised laptops for needs kids have still not turned up

Other countries brought in border testing of arrivals in spring 2020
The UK is just considering it

Other countries let local, experienced health teams run their Test and Trace and COVID response
THe UK bunged wodges of cash to their mates

Johnson is the wrong person to deal with COVID
and an arrogant TWAT to pile Brexit on top of it

Why are we talking about what happened nearly a year ago.

Because NoWordForFluffy is comparing the UK to 'island nations' like New Zealand.

Then we had the world beating test and trace, which really ought to have delivered the goods by about May or June.

Keir Starmer was scoring political points with the German Covid App in June - it hasn't helped much in the second wave.

Why not stick to discussing Johnson, he is supposed to be the PM after all. We can't now say that it's really Cummings.

Schools first locked down in March 2020 but the promised laptops for needs kids have still not turned up.

December - "Schools and councils have received over 560,000 devices.

Global laptop shortage:

info.tehama.io/blog/global-laptop-shortage-virtual-desktops
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/tdsb-students-devices-for-remote-learning-1.5766694
www.wsj.com/articles/store-shelves-stripped-of-laptops-as-coronavirus-increases-working-from-home-11584534112
www.techradar.com/uk/news/laptops-desktops-shortage-set-to-continue-for-the-foreseeable-future

"Nigel Farage is a friend of mine. Boris is a friend of mine. They are two very good guys, two very interesting people," Donald Trump, Press Conference, May 2019

For me, it is primarily because he is driven by his ego rather than any sense of public duty. It's all about what's best for Boris.

Absolutely this! Also...

Is pretty lazy by all accounts - constantly taking holidays since in power, doesn't really understand the detail of most of the stuff he's presented with because he won't do the reading.

Serial philanderer who doesn't openly acknowledge all his children.

Makes up policy on the hoof to appeal to popular opinion rather than having any real strategic direction. (Marcus Rashford and free food for kids in the hols.)

Voted down pay rises for nurses, despite having his life saved by NHS staff this summer, but voted for MPs to get a pay rise.

Has put together one of the loathsome cabinets to have ever been seen - Jacob Rees Mogg and Priti Patel anyone.

Botched COVID response from start to finish.

He refused to sack Dominic Cummins for AGES despite obvious misconduct.

Too many government contracts being handed to mates of the Tory power.

The bigger question at this point is how could anyone approve of him?

He just appears to be a not very good person or an effective and competent pm.
Famed for being a lazy and unreliable politician, I think he is way out of his depth.
And we are all suffering under his leadership.

@BatleyTownswomensGuild great list!

@Peregrina

"Nigel Farage is a friend of mine. Boris is a friend of mine. They are two very good guys, two very interesting people," Donald Trump, Press Conference, May 2019

I'm waiting for Clav to turn up with a CnP where Boris decried that.

Otherwise it stands. Which is almost too ironic to be true - for Boris to be tainted by not standing up and calling a liar out when that liar called him his friend. With the irony becoming almost universe-destroying when you realise it's Boris that is tainted - probably the UKs biggest liar in terms of lies told multiplied by people he's told them too.

As always, anyone want to check my working.

Even funnier is that Trump was probably lying when he said it. I really can't see Trump thinking much of Boris ....

Has anyone mentioned Darius Guppy yet?
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