Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Why does everyone hate Boris?

844 replies

skidadle · 08/01/2021 15:19

Just that really. I neither like nor dislike him I don't feel any emotion towards him.
AIBU to ask why so many people on here hate/dislike Boris Johnson?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
Kendodd · 09/01/2021 14:48

Never got why people like him
Its because he was funny on the telly.

randomer · 09/01/2021 14:49

He speaks French,he can trot out a bit of Italian. Oh and of course Latin.

ShalomToYouJackie · 09/01/2021 14:53

Referred to women in burqas as "letter boxes", thinks teaching what homosexuality is in schools is "appalling", referred to gay men as "tank topped bum boys", referred to black people as "piccaninnies with watermelon smiles".

Guylan · 09/01/2021 15:01

There is only one thing Johnson cares about - himself. He lies as easily as he breathes.

His old boss didn’t like him either.

Why does everyone hate Boris?
Clavinova · 09/01/2021 15:08

Pink News -
Despite his early beliefs, Johnson’s legislative record is markedly more liberal.

Elected to Parliament for the first time in 2001, Johnson rebelled against his own party on several occasions to back LGBT+ rights measures.

Defying the Conservative leadership at the time, Johnson voted in 2003 to abolish Section 28, which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools, and voted in 2004 to permit civil partnerships for same-sex couples.

Alongside George Osborne and John Bercow, Johnson was one of just a handful of Tory MPs who were willing to back the Labour government’s LGBT+ reforms.

Serving as Mayor of London from 2008 to 2016, Johnson led the city’s Pride parade on several occasions.

While attending the event in 2010, Johnson became the highest-ranking Conservative to come out in support of marriage equality in an interview with PinkNews.

He told PinkNews: “If the Conservatives and Liberals can get together in a national coalition and settle their differences, I don’t see why you can’t have gay marriage.

After becoming Theresa May’s Foreign Secretary in 2016, Johnson scrapped a controversial ban on Pride flags being flown from UK embassies and consulates around the world.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/06/18/boris-johnson-lgbt-rights-record-anti-gay-slurs-liberal-stance/

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 15:15

His old boss didn’t like him either.

The same boss who referred to "Johnson’s glittering intelligence."

Myshinynewname2021 · 09/01/2021 15:21

@ShalomToYouJackie

Referred to women in burqas as "letter boxes", thinks teaching what homosexuality is in schools is "appalling", referred to gay men as "tank topped bum boys", referred to black people as "piccaninnies with watermelon smiles".
Nice try love. Eton is incredibly international and has a large number of non white boys from different countries. His political forte was considered to be international relations which you can't do if you are racist. And part of his inner circle is a young North African woman and no he's not shagging her.

But it's ok for Jezzer to actively foster anti semitism in the Labour Party with his willing cronies?

Don't mistake virtue signalling for decency.

VVKills27 · 09/01/2021 15:23

@itsgettingweird yes! Sometimes something just grab your curiosity & you just have to go down that obsessive google rabbit hole at 1am...

jasjas1973 · 09/01/2021 15:29

But Clav you have inadvertently shown us one of the problems with Bojo, he has no principals, he'll support (or be against) any cause that helps his favourite one... that of Johnson himself.

He doubtless does support gay pride etc but he is more than willing to write/say the exact opposite if it wins him applause.

He never wanted to leave the EU, as mayor he wrote that the eu has helped build London into one of the worlds leading financial centers, he decided on backing Leave as that helped him, he didn't expect to win, that much was true!

As Heseltine said of him "Boris waits to see 'the way the crowd is running' then dashes in front'"
and that sums up his handling of CV, he is waiting, looking to see what the public will tolerate and then choses that option.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 09/01/2021 15:35

[quote Piglet89]@Peregrina agreed. It’s generally accepted that Merkel’s scientific background has stood her in good stead in dealing with the pandemic in Germany.[/quote]
Where as four years of being immersed in the Bullingdon Club, Classics, ancient literature and classical philosophy give us someone fully prepared for demonstrating that he is a self absorbed, misogynistic twat, probably incapable of organising his own lemsip if he gets a cold.

ListeningQuietly · 09/01/2021 15:36

Eton is incredibly international and has a large number of non white boys from different countries
It may do now.
Less so between 1976 and 1981 when Johnson was there

Darklingthrush · 09/01/2021 15:37

Nice try love. Eton is incredibly international and has a large number of non white boys from different countries

Oh, ok so if you go to a school that is not completely white, you can say racist things and they aren't actually racist? Hmm

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 15:39

jasjas1973
you have inadvertently shown us one of the problems with Bojo

So, you thought he was great before and now you don't?

TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 15:40

I'm sorry, did you just use 'he's got a black mate' to get out of racism accusations?
So it's ok to refer to people as letter boxes then?
That doesn't sound racist at all?
Just so we're clear.

randomer · 09/01/2021 15:45

The letter box thing was applauded by many.There can be no greater irony than the fact that those who bleated and whined about face coverings are now obligated to use them.

ShalomToYouJackie · 09/01/2021 15:56

Nice try love Nice try at what 'love'? OP asked why people don't like him, I listed things he's said that have caused a lot of people to dislike him.

Eton is incredibly international and has a large number of non white boys from different countries. His political forte was considered to be international relations which you can't do if you are racist. And part of his inner circle is a young North African woman and no he's not shagging her.

Oh he went to a school that has non-white pupils so he can't be racist? The racist things he said weren't actually racist because he has an interest in international relations. I see.

And who said anything about him 'shagging' anyone?

But it's ok for Jezzer to actively foster anti semitism in the Labour Party with his willing cronies?

That's weird, nowhere in my post did I mention Jeremy Corbyn or Labour Party or views on either... Why do you assume I support Jeremy Corbyn? Or think that anti semitism is ok?

Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 15:56

Are you seriously saying anyone who ‘went to school’ with non white pupils cannot be racist, seriously?
You might as well say well he can’t be a mysoginst because he has a girlfriend or he once had sex with a woman.

Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 16:01

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

SabrinaThwaite · 09/01/2021 16:04

@TheBuffster

I'm sorry, did you just use 'he's got a black mate' to get out of racism accusations? So it's ok to refer to people as letter boxes then? That doesn't sound racist at all? Just so we're clear.
But Corbyn ...
TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 16:10

While we are on the subject does anyone actually know anything Corbyn actually did that was actually anti-Semitic?
Genuinely don't know as every time I ask I get:
He said a painting was good.
He doesn't support Jewish people in Palestine debate (er aren't politicians meant to be neutral?)
There's anti-Semitism in the labour party.
I imagine there is. There's a lot of misogyny too but no-one ever cares about that. I'll admit labour have lost their way. But that doesn't really excuse this sh** show caused by a conservative prime minister does it?

UrAWizHarry · 09/01/2021 16:11

The following are just a few things the twat has said or written over the years.

But sure, he totally isn't racist, sexist and homophobic. Sure.

"it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes,"

"The problem with Africa is 'we are not in charge any more'"

"What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies,"

"To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke," he wrote.

"That means disposing of the first taboo, and accepting that the problem is Islam. Islam is the problem."

"Time and again the 'Tottymeter' has gone off as a young woman delegate mounts the rostrum."

"The real reason why Blackpool is buzzing with glamorous women is surely that they scent victory. It is not the great smell of Brut that makes John Prescott attractive. It is the whiff of power. With the fickleness of their sex, they are following the polls."

"Female Malaysian students only want 'men to marry'"

"Labour's appalling agenda, encouraging the teaching of homosexuality in schools, and all the rest of it."

"If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men, or indeed three men and a dog."

"tank-topped bumboys"

"In my hand was a magazine from something called the BBC Resources Equal Opportunities Unit. There were letters from gays asking about their "partner's" right to a BBC pension."

ShalomToYouJackie · 09/01/2021 16:15

Eton is incredibly international and has a large number of non-white boys

  1. You can still be racist just because non-white students attended the same school as you. Can a man now not be sexist because there were females in their school?
  1. What do you consider a 'large amount of non white boys'?

There were four BAME pupils out of 1,250 pupils in the 1990s. Even in 2020, black students only make up 7% of the student cohort and 80% of students at Eton currently are white. A former student wrote a book about their experience of racism at Eton and was then banned from the school for calling them out on it.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 09/01/2021 16:28

Not that great on Trans issues either
"On the first day Boris Johnson came to power plans to make changing your gender easier in the U.K. were kicked into the long grass, and today, The Sunday Times is reporting that according to a leaked document, those plans have now been dropped entirely."
But hey, if you can hang a few rainbow flags, that makes up for it all Hmm

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 16:29

UrAWizHarry

Elected to Parliament for the first time in 2001, Johnson rebelled against his own party on several occasions to back LGBT+ rights measures.

Defying the Conservative leadership at the time, Johnson voted in 2003 to abolish Section 28, which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools, and voted in 2004 to permit civil partnerships for same-sex couples.

While attending the event in 2010, Johnson became the highest-ranking Conservative to come out in support of marriage equality in an interview with PinkNews.

He told PinkNews: “If the Conservatives and Liberals can get together in a national coalition and settle their differences, I don’t see why you can’t have gay marriage.

Two years later, he backed the Out4Marriage campaign calling on the government to pass equal marriage, adding: “I see absolutely no reason why that happy state should be denied to anybody in our country and that’s why I am supporting the Out4Marriage campaign.”

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.

Swipe left for the next trending thread