Why does everyone hate Boris?

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Just that really. I neither like nor dislike him I don't feel any emotion towards him.
AIBU to ask why so many people on here hate/dislike Boris Johnson?

Not Gove, but Jeremy Hunt might be better. It might also help him atone for the damage he did while in charge of Health.

I trust Gove more than I trust BJ at this point - not difficult though.

But then again there's a very high percentage of politicians who have not, and will never be in that boat. I don't think someone has to experience a first hand account of the 'life of hard knocks' to be able to empathise with those less better off.

David Lammy grew up in poverty. Sadly, in this country he'll never get near no 10.
Which is a real shame as he walks the walk and talks the talk.

I used to find it weird to have ‘personal feelings’ about someone I didn’t know. So I didn’t feel any way about BJ I just didn’t think he should be prime minister or agree with his politics so didn’t vote for him. Having feelings of ‘hate’ seemed bizarre.

Then there was Trump.,

Jeremy Hunt is making himself very visible at the moment and he is suddenly the voice of common sense

I think a number of ministers are lining themselves up to replace Boris not that I think Boris shall be stepping down anytime soon but certainly before the next election

@MrsMiaWallis

I trust Gove more than I trust BJ at this point - not difficult though.

mmmmmmm my mum, a lifelong euro sceptic, changed her mind and would have voted Remain because she found Gove had lied about his parents fishing business being ruined by EU/CFP rules... turned out his father sold the business for a handsome profit.

Wonder what fishermen think now as they see catch not shipped, rotting and boats forced to stay in port?

Sorry haven't RTFT so I'm sure lots of people have already said this, but for me it's that I can't forgive his lies during the Brexit campaign.

I know that other politicians aren't always honest, but I think there's a massive difference between promising something in future that may or may not actually happen, and stating things that are factually incorrect.

I think BJ should be held accountable. His dithering and late responses to every single step of this pandemic has been shocking and totally irresponsible. I watched aghast at the beginning at the cavalier attitude of this gov when the virus first came out.

They have totally failed to protect the population in any way. They all have blood on their hands.

BJ should be in jail.

And there's his appearance. He's the Prime Minister, supposedly leading his country through the gravest peacetime crisis for a century and he looks like he's just got out of bed. It's embarrassing. The carefully ruffled hair so we all think he's one of us....do the job you've always wanted and be professional man.

I think three of the four previous Tory MPs would have handled Covid much better because they weren't afraid of hard work: namely May, Major and Thatcher. Cameron - he might have done, he wouldn't have been as in hock to his advisors.

@Peregrina

I think three of the four previous Tory MPs would have handled Covid much better because they weren't afraid of hard work: namely May, Major and Thatcher. Cameron - he might have done, he wouldn't have been as in hock to his advisors.

I agree.

I think David Cameron would have been forced to act by his coalition partners or other ministers even if he had not wanted to act himself. And his communications would have been clear not waffle.

How do I dislike thee? Let me count the ways. Or not. I'm sure everything has already been covered by earlier posters, there's so much. Enumerating his personal immaturities and unpleasantness would take a few pages; adding in the political charlatanry and deceptions would take many more. He's swept in on the rise of the Right and his position is unsustainable. Brexit is going to start kicking in soon. Who's he going to blame? Not himself, of course.

Op I'm quite neutral, he has very good points and definitely got us through brexit, and bad points, he didn't respond to the virus quickly enough.

His entitlement, homophobia & racism are a large part of why lots of people think he us a c*nt:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6%3famp

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-trump-agenda-white-nationalism-election-b1779883.html?fbclid=IwAR2TTzr2N_XxYOG0bf5AETIut11ZVJ8gsDlLmN8drp2cERQfmUtr5xfrVbA

Op I'm quite neutral, he has very good points and definitely got us through brexit, and bad points, he didn't respond to the virus quickly enough

thats really funny, we are no where near "through brexit" he enabled it for his personal gain and got us a deal that is causing chaos in trade that will not go away.

David Lammy grew up in poverty. Sadly, in this country he'll never get near no 10.
Which is a real shame as he walks the walk and talks the talk.

David Lammy comes across as a nice person on his LBC talk show as long as he is not political point scoring - as soon as he does he launches into hyperbolic overdrive and starts repeating false facts and disingenuous misquotes from Twitter - so in effect he tells lots of "lies".

He was also fined £5,000 by the Information Commissioner for instigating nuisance calls urging people to back his London mayoral bid in 2016;
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35772202

Cant be bothered to enumerate his bad points. He doesn't deserve that much consideration. He's irredeemably vile.

I don't like him as PM because he is incompetent. In any other job sector somebody who lies, deceives and blunders their way through not meeting ANY of their objectives would have been fired.
He has failed to organise a proper and qualified cabinet. He and his cabinet have no morals and would side with anybody for their own self interest.

For those that voted Brexit- he didn't "get Brexit done" because that's a stupid statement that makes no sense. Everyone's definition of Brexit is different. The deal isn't great, it was late, based on lies of course that few want to acknowledge.

He handled this pandemic very poorly. Yes it is a difficult time for many governments but I'm sorry- WE ARE AN ISLAND. Beggars belief why passenger flights are allowed. Other governments have dealt with this situation better. T

I don't agree with his party politics. I'm a tired and overworked moaning public sector worker but even I am happy to take Thatcher back to deal with this shit show. I think May would have been more transparent with the public and John Major or David Cameron wouldn't have overused war analogies and hyperbole in his speeches.

I wouldn't invite him over for tea- he is racist, whether he thinks he is or not, but he is. He is a mysoginst and socially illiterate. Enunciation and intonation doesn't make you smart- listen to the drivel that Jacob Rees Bogg spews. You can describe shit poetically but it's still shit!

Put it this way, Bozo the clown is covered in red flags that if a friend told me he's asked her for a date I'd tell her to run for the hills.

He's the type of man that would be clogging up the relationship threads on here and for all awful reasons.

We will need to wait a few years to see whether 'getting Brexit done' counts as a plus for any politician. Perhaps not as long as Rees-Mogg's 50 years though.

@HecouldLickEm

Op I'm quite neutral, he has very good points and definitely got us through brexit, and bad points, he didn't respond to the virus quickly enough.

You can not be neutral or measured on mumsnet. You have to hate all Tory politicians and you have to loathe BJ. He is actually extremely bright (read a detailed profile in a well regarded publication a few years ago and know someone that knows him) with an excellent Classics eduction. The bumbling is part of his sctick and no one apart from MN are fooled by it. As for his hair it does what it does.

It's a very female thing to decide that anyone who isn't well organised or good at admin is a shit leader, or is thick. Admin people and accountants don't run the world, or business, or make good leaders and there are many many good reasons for that. His job isn't to be 'well organised' thats the job of his very large support team. He couldn't do without them but no leader could.

And no admin person has big enough balls to do even half of what he does or the ability to think outside the box or to negotiate with other world leaders. It's not a perfect system and yes most of them are twats.

But my god I'll never forget the slating Teresa may got. So you can't win. There is no such thing as measured or objective or balanced. Well not here anyway. The 'educated' are worst because they read a very narrow spectrum of left wing propaganda and then suddenly become experts.

If you want to know anything about this shit you need ALL of the broadsheets not just the guardian. And the economist, the week and the spectator. But you wait. I'll be jumped on by some frothing at the mouth person who will be furious that I could even suggest the 'the torygraph' is anything less than a right wing rag calling for the starving of poor children and persecution of the poor people on benefits.

Because obviously the guardian is a beacon of impartiality and Facebook has some very interesting news channels.

jasjas1973
mmmmmmm my mum, a lifelong euro sceptic, changed her mind and would have voted Remain because she found Gove had lied about his parents fishing business being ruined by EU/CFP rules... turned out his father sold the business for a handsome profit.

I've just checked that story and come up with this;

How Remainers stitched up Gove's Elderly Father.

The Guardian story is headlined “Michael Gove’s father denies his company was destroyed by EU policies”. Yet this was the actual answer 79 year-old Ernest Gove gave to the journalist’s question:

“There’s nothing really to go back about anyway because it just was, when Europe went into fishing, the industry more or less collapsed down and I just packed in and got a job with another firm, you know. That was all that was happening.”

As the journalist repeatedly tried to get Gove Snr to contradict Michael, Ernest explicitly said: “I’m not going against my son”. The Guardian claim “Michael Gove’s office neither denied or retracted or contested accuracy of Earnest Gove quotes”. Except they provided the reporter with a statement from Ernest Gove, again rubbishing the story:

“I don’t know what this reporter is going on about. Everybody in the north-east knows it was Europe that did such damage to the fish trade. The common fisheries policy was a disaster, not just for Aberdeen, but all of Scotland. There wasn’t any future for my business. It closed as a direct result of Europe.”

Despite Gove Snr clearly agreeing with his son – on camera, in the phone call with the reporter and in a statement provided prior to publication – the Guardian published the incorrect headline anyway.

order-order.com/2016/06/16/how-remainers-stitched-up-goves-elderly-father/

Erm hello!

I read all the broadsheets- You have to, to get a balanced picture. The evidence is there though- his management of this pandemic is objectively shit!

He's not an admin assistant- he's a manager and he has failed to manage his own cabinet and the country at large. HE WANTED THIS JOB and he isn't up for it.

WE ARE AN ISLAND.

And it's taken nearly a YEAR since Covid arrived on these shores for the Government to decide that it might be a good idea to start testing people arriving.

Being bright is no excuse- the most dangerous men in our society were extremely bright.