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Why does everyone hate Boris?

844 replies

skidadle · 08/01/2021 15:19

Just that really. I neither like nor dislike him I don't feel any emotion towards him.
AIBU to ask why so many people on here hate/dislike Boris Johnson?

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Councilworker · 09/01/2021 10:51

I think Boris Johnson is any absolutely dreadful PM and human being but I'm pretty sure he and Marina Wheeler had separated in 2018 and she was diagnosed with cancer in May 2019. www.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/11/marina-wheeler-tells-of-cervical-cancer-diagnosis-boris-johnson

He had numerous affairs during their marriage which presumably by 2018 she'd had enough. He didn't decide to leave during her cancer treatment through. He'd already gone. He's a seemingly man incapable of keeping in it his pants but let's keep to the many many facts about him rather than saying he left his wife while she had cancer.

jasjas1973 · 09/01/2021 10:55

Clav

Looks like Gove snr changed his story to support his son?

The U.K. justice secretary has attributed his dislike of the EU to the collapse of his father’s fishing business in the 1970s, which he said the family blamed directly on the EU

“I saw the pride my father and grandfather had in their business and obviously it was very difficult to cope with seeing everything they had built disappear,” he told the BBC. “I was just a schoolboy at the time, I didn’t know what I was going to be doing in the future, but it stayed with me.”

In a Sky News appearance, Gove condemned the EU as a “job-destroying machine” run by “sneering elites.”

However, according to the Guardian, Ernest Gove had a different take on events, saying: “It wasn’t any hardship or things like that. I just decided to call it a day and just sold up my business and went on to work with someone else.”

He said he sold his fish processing firm in Aberdeen as the industry was being hit by a number of factors, including the so-called Icelandic cod wars, strikes by dock workers and limits to control over-fishing

The elder Gove said he “couldn’t see any future in it, that type of thing, the business that I had, so I wasn’t going to go into all the trouble of having hardship. I just decided to sell up and get a job with someone else. That was all.”

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 10:56

Smiledwiththerisingsun
His entitlement, homophobia & racism

But left-wing journalists and MPs don't mind spreading what they perceive to be 'homophobic' and 'racist' comments all over the media for political point scoring? They obviously don't have any real concern for the people they claim to be affected by these comments or they wouldn't keep repeating them 20 years later.

TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 10:57

David Lammy of course isn't perfect, although I would ask you to back up claims of lies with facts, rather than claims of hyperbole. Especially when Johnson literally speaks in metaphor and ye olde English. Alack, alas.
Lammy, he works hard and has his work overlooked (eg his investigation into race before the BLM which was ignored by Johnson, who said he would launch his own inquiry rather than act upon the information David gathered).
David Lammy, Theresa May, ANYONE has more integrity and would have dealt with the current situation better than Boris.
You can post as many links as you like but nailing your colours to Boris' mast shows you're seriously missing the point. Even the vast majority of the conservatives have nothing good to say about him.
But some people think this is left versus right. It's not. It's about a dangerously incompetent person in power at a time of great need.

Peregrina · 09/01/2021 10:59

They repeat them 20 years later, because there is absolutely no sign that Johnson has recanted from his views. You will be trying to tell us next Clavinova that he hasn't had numerous affairs throughout his life and has at least 2 illegitimate children, probably more.

Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 11:01

Why don't you educate yourself op and read up about him?

He is incompetent and is where he is purely through luck of birth.
He does not care for anyone but himself.
He is not committed to any specific political beliefs, he wasn't even a Conservative to begin with, neither was he a believer in the leave campaign. He merely jumps on which ever ship will make the shoreline first.
I don't want a PM like that, I would rather have one who believes in their principles and leads the country according to those principles.
He has bumbled his way though the pandemic without a clue. Listening to the abhorrent Dominic Cummings who broke the rules he himself set down. He comes across as a racist, misogynistic cross between a right wing white van man and Mr Bean. He spouts populist idioms such as "Get Brexit done" and "We can all enjoy celebrating Christmas between the 23.12 and 27.12" without any intelligent thought or guidance from people with specific knowledge about the virus or indeed any expert. He threatened to take sensible head teachers to court when they told him their schools must close, now backtracking over school closures. He has lost the support of teachers, school staff, university staff, the unions despise him and now so do a lot of parents. He does not have leadership qualities. He makes constant u turns after promising stupid things to attract the lowest common denominator and of course above all else he is there to please the extremely wealthy investors who are set to ruin this country. Their only motive is financial gain. They have made millions from betting against the UK once we left the EU. Borris had to leave the EU before the regulations came in which would make these investors declare their interests. Now we have left they are not obliged to do so.
I could go on and on.
He has given contracts worth billions of tax payers money to his friends and friends and family of Tory detonators and supporters regardless of whether they have delivered the goods and services. Money down the drain and no accountability.
He has fathered endless illegitimate children yet people are stupid enough to fall for his "Loveable bumbling man of the people image." An image partly created by his current lover who's friends incidentally have also been given contracts to do work in which they have no proven experience.
Nice work if you can get it.

jasjas1973 · 09/01/2021 11:01

@Clavinova

Smiledwiththerisingsun His entitlement, homophobia & racism

But left-wing journalists and MPs don't mind spreading what they perceive to be 'homophobic' and 'racist' comments all over the media for political point scoring? They obviously don't have any real concern for the people they claim to be affected by these comments or they wouldn't keep repeating them 20 years later.

You mean pulling Bojo up for his comments? most of which are not 20 years old at all. also, seem to recall you are not quite so shy when it comes to recounting what any Labour politician has done or said in the past

Bojo and Trump are from the same playbook and Johnson is perfectly capable of doing what Trump is doing now in the USA.

TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 11:03

It's absolutely relevant that certain politicians tried to stop homosexual rights eg. The right to be discussed at school. These are fragile rights and in no way are guaranteed, so we should be uneasy if someone in power tried to block them.
As for the appalling racist comments they're hardly historical, being made more recently. Other public servants such as police and teachers would be sacked for holding those views so why shouldn't Johnson be held accountable?

LetThemEatSovereignty · 09/01/2021 11:05

The endless endless endless fucking lying.
The incompetence and cronyism.
The treatment of ex wife and (countless) children.
The racism and homophobia.
The lack of moral fibre and ruthless opportunism.
In short, he's a total shit and not up to the job.

purpleleotard · 09/01/2021 11:05

Because he led the UK into the utter fiasco of brexit.
I would like him to be billed for the extra expense he has caused to each and every member of the nation.

derxa · 09/01/2021 11:06

Bojo and Trump are from the same playbook and Johnson is perfectly capable of doing what Trump is doing now in the USA.
Really? BJ may have done a shit job but I don't believe he would incite people to storm the Houses of Parliament. Why would he do that?

Myshinynewname2021 · 09/01/2021 11:11

I remember the last Labour government. An appalling recession and a totally un needed way built on lies.

LetThemEatSovereignty · 09/01/2021 11:14

Bojo and Trump are from the same playbook and Johnson is perfectly capable of doing what Trump is doing now in the USA
Indeed. BJ has already made one unlawful attempt to prorogue parliament, has arrogated Henry VIII powers to himself under the cover of Brexit, and continues with his damaging campaign of sidelining our national democratic institutions: see, eg, www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-committee-jacob-rees-mogg-eu-trade-deal-b1784512.html

LakieLady · 09/01/2021 11:14

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

It's only on here that people hate him. That is because most people on here are Remainers and left of centre.
No, he's hated on the Digital Spy politics forum as well, and by virtually everyone I know!
Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 11:15

Bozza also looks frightened of Keir Starmer, not a good look. He should have publicly criticised Cummings. He came out of that fiasco looking as though he has something to hide. Talk was all about Cummings must have some serious shit on Bozza. Again not a good look for a PM.

Peregrina · 09/01/2021 11:16

What you mean the global recession caused by the US banking crisis? Well the Tories have now had 11 years to remedy that.

Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 11:16

I think some people like him.

TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 11:18

Ok let's pretend that the recession wasn't a global one and that labour are terrible.
If Boris is so wonderful, why on earth did he have to get rid of longstanding conservatives and replace them with nodding yes men?
I'm tired of people pointing to imaginary scenarios like if Corbyn had got in as being worse. Or historical Labour Vs Conservative tosh. This is so much bigger than that. Look at the situation at hand- is it being handled well. I don't mean in comparison to imaginary Labour PM's. I'm talking compared to other world leaders. We're an island. We have a massive example to the rest of Europe and we still managed to top the death tolls. A big part of that is underfunding the NHS for years, which cannot be laid at Johnson's door. But the current response can.

skidadle · 09/01/2021 11:19

@Onlinedilema

Why don't you educate yourself op and read up about him?

He is incompetent and is where he is purely through luck of birth.
He does not care for anyone but himself.
He is not committed to any specific political beliefs, he wasn't even a Conservative to begin with, neither was he a believer in the leave campaign. He merely jumps on which ever ship will make the shoreline first.
I don't want a PM like that, I would rather have one who believes in their principles and leads the country according to those principles.
He has bumbled his way though the pandemic without a clue. Listening to the abhorrent Dominic Cummings who broke the rules he himself set down. He comes across as a racist, misogynistic cross between a right wing white van man and Mr Bean. He spouts populist idioms such as "Get Brexit done" and "We can all enjoy celebrating Christmas between the 23.12 and 27.12" without any intelligent thought or guidance from people with specific knowledge about the virus or indeed any expert. He threatened to take sensible head teachers to court when they told him their schools must close, now backtracking over school closures. He has lost the support of teachers, school staff, university staff, the unions despise him and now so do a lot of parents. He does not have leadership qualities. He makes constant u turns after promising stupid things to attract the lowest common denominator and of course above all else he is there to please the extremely wealthy investors who are set to ruin this country. Their only motive is financial gain. They have made millions from betting against the UK once we left the EU. Borris had to leave the EU before the regulations came in which would make these investors declare their interests. Now we have left they are not obliged to do so.
I could go on and on.
He has given contracts worth billions of tax payers money to his friends and friends and family of Tory detonators and supporters regardless of whether they have delivered the goods and services. Money down the drain and no accountability.
He has fathered endless illegitimate children yet people are stupid enough to fall for his "Loveable bumbling man of the people image." An image partly created by his current lover who's friends incidentally have also been given contracts to do work in which they have no proven experience.
Nice work if you can get it.

After reading all these comments I really am going to educate myself on politics and read up about him!
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TheBuffster · 09/01/2021 11:20

Advantage not example.
We've been made an example of.
Oh yes.

Onlinedilema · 09/01/2021 11:23

Well done op. If only more people would do this. At least know who and what you are voting for.

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 11:24

jasjas1973
He said he sold his fish processing firm in Aberdeen as the industry was being hit by a number of factors, including the so-called Icelandic cod wars, strikes by dock workers and limits to control over-fishing

They haven't used quotation marks for that section so who knows what questions were put to Gove's father.

However, according to the Guardian, Ernest Gove had a different take on events, saying: “It wasn’t any hardship or things like that. I just decided to call it a day and just sold up my business and went on to work with someone else.”

You missed out a bit;

Ernest Gove told the Guardian that he did believe the industry in Scotland “more or less collapsed down” after the EU became involved in fisheries policy, but he said he sold his firm voluntarily, as a going concern. “It wasn’t any hardship or things like that. I just decided to call it a day and sold up my business and went on to work with someone else,” he said.

“[I] couldn’t see any future in it, that type of thing, the business that I had, so I wasn’t going to go into all the trouble of having hardship. I just decided to sell up and get a job with someone else. That was all.”

On the Brexit Board there was a discussion recently about the government's new agricultural policy outside of the EU's CAP - it was claimed that some British farmers might give up and sell their farms because of the policies. So if they sell voluntarily, sooner rather than later, then it's got nothing to do with the new policies? You can't have it both ways.

Clavinova · 09/01/2021 11:28

jasjas1973
seem to recall you are not quite so shy when it comes to recounting what any Labour politician has done or said in the past

I don't think I've directly quoted anything that might cause offence - not my style of posting at all.

UnrulyJulie · 09/01/2021 11:29

I don’t hate Boris. He’s a product of his environment (yes, looking at you Stanley).

I really dislike the idiots who knowingly voted in a lying, cheating, arrogant, incompetent sleazebag though.

PinkPiranha11 · 09/01/2021 11:35

I don’t hate him as I don’t know him. I think he’s probably super fun at parties. I do however think he’s been beyond shit at dealing with this.

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