.. to think that Stanley Johnson getting the jab tells you everything you need to know about these clowns?

[moodoperator]

For a government that values "optics" far higher than actual competence or delivery, thus feels like a misstep. He wasn't following the rules before, now he's going to unstoppable (and smug too).

Meanwhile millions of NHS staff, teachers and others carry on doing their work on the front line unvaccinated and lots of others in Stanley's age group who got a first dose are being asked to wait for their second so others can have their first dose.

twitter.com/gmb/status/1347446957279686658?s=21

He is a public figure ad the more of those who get the jab the better as it makes the public more comfortable with the idea of trying this new vaccine.

All of us frontline healthcare workers in my Trust (apart from the extremely clinically vulnerable ones who are shielding-and even they had to fight for it!) have had their 2nd jab appointments pushed back by 3 months as part of the governments desperate gamble. Glad to see Johnson’s dad still got his though!

Massive postcode lottery. Some Trusts and GP practices are honouring the 2nd appointments against the government advice, some are not. My parents who are in their late 70s (Greater London) haven’t been called to have the jab yet whereas my colleagues’s parents who are 71 (no underlying conditions) have already had both first and second jabs (Kent).

He is entitled to it and his local surgery is clearly one of the lucky ones with deliveries. Him receiving his jab with other 80 year olds is nothing to do with who he is.
Your post seems to suggest though that the oldies shouldn’t be getting the jab. That’s a different conversation all together and again nothing to do with him being ‘entitled’ or the ‘PMs father’.

There's no exact order. He is eligible and has decided to share that he has had it. He is not in the government.

@frumpety

I can't honestly get excited by someone who is entitled to the vaccine having the vaccine. I thought it was more telling, the story about him going for French citizenship after Brexit.

He always wanted us to remain in the EU and campaigned against Boris before the referendum took place.

So it's hardly surprising that he's taken the opportunity to get the French citizenship he's perfectly entitled to have.

Why is it telling?

@Omemiserum

My aunt in London is 93 and hasn't heard a thing about getting it.

That's down to the local GP surgeries. Our town's haven't even started yet, but they're always slow to organise the annual flu jabs too. Our two nearest towns have been doing them since mid December and are already down to calling in those in group 3, i.e. over 75s. Quite simply, some GPs are better organised than others - the usual NHS postcode lottery.

Stanley Johnson is being wheeled out regularly by those who want to stir up bad feeling against pensioners.

Ignore his antics and them.

@pinbinpin

Are many other 80 year olds also on their second dose this week?

My Dad is having his second dose tomorrow. I did read that some centres are carrying on with those who had already had a second appointment scheduled, so I assume that’s why.

Well thats fair enough then, it's justthe normal NHS postcode lottery.

Usual insensitive PR by the Johnsons I suppoes.

As for him not wearing a mask,he's over 80,more likely to have conditions where it's hard for him to wear a mask ,Mumsnet are always telling people to be mindful of hidden disabilities,apart from when it concerns Boris Johnson,s father

I think it’s good that the prime minister’s dad has publicly had the vaccine, that can help dispel worries and encourage others to have it. He probably wasn’t wise to volunteer that he’s had the second dose when the top priority group haven’t had theirs; it highlights inadequacies in the distribution of the vaccines. All staff and residents at elderly care home where I am a nurse have had second vaccinations cancelled.

I think there is some logic in getting the largest possible cohort a degree of protection in the shortest possible time rather than aiming for the double does - vaccines can be manufactured while the first phase of vaccination is underway.

Some areas are still giving the second dose to those that had it early and were booked in. My friends mum had her second dose this week. My in laws haven’t had one yet. ( all over 80)

@JohnMcCainsDeathStare

I think there is some logic in getting the largest possible cohort a degree of protection in the shortest possible time rather than aiming for the double does - vaccines can be manufactured while the first phase of vaccination is underway.

Do you have scientific data to support that opinion?

Even if it's his second dose, he's 80 and if he got it 3 weeks later, it means he wasn't vaccinated in the first few days.

PS - I did read the OP, which actually implied that he was getting a first shot whereas others who had got the first jab were waiting. A better comparison would be that many others hadn't had the first jab yet.
I didn't read the twitter link.

Not yet - there simply isn't the data set available - this is more comparing approaches between different countries where the various vaccines are available. If I recall we are using both the Pfizer and the Oxford vaccines.

There is also the issue whether combining two different types of vaccine would be effective - some work based on the spike protein, others on the protein shell.

My friend is 76,had her first dose,second one on Sunday.It depends what area you live in,some are more organised than others.

That is interesting @480Widdio my MIL who is 82 and a complex medical history hasn't had the letter yet

Trestment is blind, it is not done on moral rectitude....

However peoppe may like it to be...

There will be wife beaters /sex offenders /people who rip off vulberable people... Purely as they're over 80...

This happens everywhere in the NHS.

Welcome - it is usually a phone call , not a letter.

So easily missed of Nona swearing machine.

No answering machine!

(I could do with a swearing machine; so hard to keep up in this pandemic ...)

Stanley Johnson's greatest mistake was in 1964, not keeping it in his trousers.

So someone that was entitled to have the vaccine has had it and it's annoyed you as they are middle class?

ever since he was on I'm a celeb I have wondered if he is senile and out of touch or if he just doesn't give a shit

@peak2021 brilliant post !