.. to think that Stanley Johnson getting the jab tells you everything you need to know about these clowns?

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For a government that values "optics" far higher than actual competence or delivery, thus feels like a misstep. He wasn't following the rules before, now he's going to unstoppable (and smug too).

Meanwhile millions of NHS staff, teachers and others carry on doing their work on the front line unvaccinated and lots of others in Stanley's age group who got a first dose are being asked to wait for their second so others can have their first dose.

twitter.com/gmb/status/1347446957279686658?s=21

I get your point, but actually I think it's probably a good idea for him to have it publicly - there are a lot of people out there afraid to be vaccinated because of the anti-vaxx bollocks doing the rounds.

I agree, but..... I do also hope he now also decides to set a similar example when it comes to mask wearing, foreign travel to and from his villa etc..

There are a few over 80’s in in my area getting the 2nd jab, none of them are related to Boris Johnson. Some areas are sticking to the original protocol.

He is over 80.

He doesn't have to prove that is is a good human being, he just has to show he is over 80.

1/4 of all over 80s have been done so far.
plus the care home and NHS workers that have been done.
More than the rest of Europe put together.

So, the UK is leading the way on vaccines, we are doing a good job, we are getting it done.

But hey lets moan about it and complain about it

I don't think the gov has handled corona well, but I do think we are doing well with vaccine so far.

I don’t know any over-80s who have been offered any vaccine at all yet. Perhaps it’s postcode lottery.

While I understand the annoyance about the second doses being cancellled, I think anger at some one over 80 getting their first dose is a bit ridiculous now!

Yes it’s a cock up and I rather foolishly believed that Johnson et al would work out that would been able to divide the order number by 2 and only vaccinate that number until the second order came in February.

But then judging by some of the replies on here, that would have pissed people off too so and so has had both doses so why has my mother/father/great auntie Gwen got their first dose.

They’d delayed the second doses so that your mother/father/great auntie Gwen might get their first does now, stanly Johnson is just one of those people. He will also have to wait for his second dose just like your mother!

He’ll also have to wait longer for his second dose!

He hasn’t got it because he’s Boris dad he’s got it because he’s 80 he’s got it a month after people his age were first invited too which says he’s only just been invited!

If gmb broadcast it that’s their decision

Also er if it was GMB it has nowt to do with the government hasn’t Boris banned the cabinet from appearing on GMB

@twistedsistersocks fortunately you are not judge, jury and executioner.

[quote cdtaylornats]@twistedsistersocks fortunately you are not judge, jury and executioner.[/quote]
Yes. However not being happy to give the vaccine doesn't mean I wouldn't does it! All care staff have to treat people they'd rather not.

He's 80.
Because the mean age of death from Covid is over 80 and the median age over 82, to bring deaths down, the government has to prioritise the very old for the vaccine.
Not everyone can be vaccinated at once and it will depend on circumstances in each health authority, so just because he got it before some people cannot, per se, mean anything in particular. My mum - in her 80s - got it before he did. That doesn't mean that my mum has somehow been given special treatment over and above someone else's mum who hasn't yet got the call.

I was supposed to drive
My dad to get his second dose today. He had the first well back in December.

They only rang last night to cancel the appointment and say he would be given another date in a couple of months

Given the inflexibility of the Pfizer vaccine because of batch size and storage temp, I guess it has been easier in some instances to just roll with the original schedule

There aren't many things the British enjoy more than a postcode lottery.

@daisypond

I don’t know any over-80s who have been offered any vaccine at all yet. Perhaps it’s postcode lottery.

Ahh whine about the postcode lottery absolutely

Moan about health inequalities especially for the disabled, extreme vunreable, BAME, and elderly - yes please

Even better than that campaign and spread awareness

But then doing these things shouldn’t be just in a pandemic

However complaining about an 80 year old getting a vaccine that their entitled too because your relative hasn’t got it or has got it just not their second dose is a tad er unnecessary

@RizzleDrizzle

While I understand the annoyance about the second doses being cancellled, I think anger at some one over 80 getting their first dose is a bit ridiculous now!

Yes it’s a cock up and I rather foolishly believed that Johnson et al would work out that would been able to divide the order number by 2 and only vaccinate that number until the second order came in February.

But then judging by some of the replies on here, that would have pissed people off too so and so has had both doses so why has my mother/father/great auntie Gwen got their first dose.

They’d delayed the second doses so that your mother/father/great auntie Gwen might get their first does now, stanly Johnson is just one of those people. He will also have to wait for his second dose just like your mother!

He’ll also have to wait longer for his second dose!

He hasn’t got it because he’s Boris dad he’s got it because he’s 80 he’s got it a month after people his age were first invited too which says he’s only just been invited!

If gmb broadcast it that’s their decision

Also er if it was GMB it has nowt to do with the government hasn’t Boris banned the cabinet from appearing on GMB

It's not his first dose, it's the second that he's having.

@Tearsfortiers

There's nothing to get worked up about here. I don't see what the problem is. He's 80 and therefore entitled to it. If anything it may inspire those that worry about being vaccinated to get it.

This.

RizzleDrizzle You obviously haven't bothered to read the tweet based on what you've written. Otherwise you wouldn't be writing things like "He will also have to wait for his second dose just like your mother!

He also applied for a French passport OP.

www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/uk/stanley-johnson-french-citizenship-scli-gbr-intl/index.html

But to be fair, he was aways a europhile.

You would be justified in complaining that he has had both doses when others of his age or older haven't, i.e. the unfairness of the distribution around the country. But the fact that it's Stanley Johnson? No, he's in the queue same as everyone else.

Are many other 80 year olds also on their second dose this week?

@icanboogieboogiewoogie

There aren't many things the British enjoy more than a postcode lottery.

People seem to like it though - with devolution and the like. I am a centralist, I don't like postcode lotteries and I think everyone should get the same services if we all pay the same, but I also acknowledge that some degree of local decision making is important. It's a difficult one.

However, it shouldn't happen with vaccines - it should be a UK-wide service with the same offering to all. In some areas GPs are giving vaccines and they're getting done, in other areas they're claiming that they can't (why not, you give the flu vaccine) and the over 80s are still waiting for anything to even start.

Oh sorry it’s his second dose - I have heard of a few second doses be administered

Have you got a chip on your shoulder and are you trying to make this about politics?

He is 80, he is entitled to it. Who is anyone to state that xxx doesnt deserve the jab because of xxx reason. What about the older people who 'taking' it from the teachers? What about the people who havent been following the rules and having all and sundry around? Should they miss out?

I don't see what the problem is. He's 80 and therefore entitled to it

I'd assume the problem is that he has been regularly seen in public not wearing a mask and not socially distancing, which sort of suggests that he doesn't think the virus is any big deal. So it's a bit hypocritical taking steps to be amongst the first to receive the second dose vaccination against the virus.

So you think we should deny people from getting the vaccine even though they are in the relevant age group just because you don’t like them?
That’s actually quite scary, glad I don’t live in a country where that sort of thing happens.

I think many people haven’t read the OP properly.

He’s getting his SECOND dose. After 21 days. Everyone has had their second dose delayed to 12 weeks.

@pinbinpin

Are many other 80 year olds also on their second dose this week?

yes, a lot of them are.

If you watch the news every night, you see plenty of comment in all directions on this.
For example, some GP surgeries who said that for the people already booked in for second dose, they didn't have the capacity to cancel them all, (hundreds of telephone calls) it was easier to go ahead and give second dose to many of them.

Other GPs who have received their vaccine doses, and others who haven't. One GP practice who has already done all their over 80s and so on.

I'm not a fan of his but they have to allocate it based on clinical need not moral right. I'm sure he's not the only 80 year old who hasn't been following all the rules and we can't seriously be suggesting everyone has to prove their right to get vaccinated.