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Teachers - how much do you earn?

207 replies

coopekid · 07/01/2021 11:13

So it's my 5th year of teaching, not in London or fringe, and I am on £27,260 and have been since Sep 19 (no across-the-board pay increase as announced last summer for me Hmm ) This - according to the NEU advisory pay points puts me somewhere between M1 and M2. Interested to hear what other Teachers are earning?

OP posts:
almapudden · 07/01/2021 21:11

Name changed for this. I teach in a London private school; my teaching salary is just over £58,000 and I receive around an additional £13,000 for my pastoral responsibilities, so in total my salary is £72,000. I’ve been teaching for 12 years.

Nix32 · 07/01/2021 21:12

@rolliy How, exactly?????? I was a deputy head in my late 20s and wasn't anywhere near that salary.

GuyFawkesDay · 07/01/2021 21:13

If I were full time £41k as UPS3. I work 0.8.

It's a hard job but I great one. As long as you have a thick skin, a questioning mind and are willing to listen you'll be fine

ValancyRedfern · 07/01/2021 21:14

OP it seems wrong that you haven't got beyond M2 in 5 years. You need to speak to your Union (and if you're not in one. Join ASAP). Have you met your PM targets each year? If so they should have moved you up. If not they should have made it clear to you where you needed to improve and offered support where you need it. I have been teaching 10 years and I'm on UPS 2. After 5 years I was on M5.

EreLongDoneDoDoesDid · 07/01/2021 21:14

Inner London, UPS1 circa £40k when I jacked it in a couple of years ago. DH inner London and UPS3 with a TLR, ~60k.

Yours sounds a bit low OP- I understand you don’t get any kind of London weighting but you should be having the opportunity to move up the scales each year.

BurningRed · 07/01/2021 21:17

Teach in an inner city deprived school in the north west.

This is my 11th year teaching and I have moved jobs several times and have skipped up the UPS scales.

I am a HOD of an Ebacc subject and I earn £49k, which after deductions is £2500 a month.

sweetkitty · 07/01/2021 21:22

Scotland - just over 36K after 4 years.

Maximum unprompted will be just under 42K which I will reach in another 2 years.

dootball · 07/01/2021 21:26

Don't forget to factor in the generous pension contribution from you school too , which is currently 23%.

I also now work in private school , where I have taken small pay cut in the top of UPS, so now on around £38000. However I get free meals and 50% of my childrens school fees, which is work quite a lot currently!

Teaching many subjects there is also the opportunity for quite a bit fairly lucrative tutoring if you want to.

sweetkitty · 07/01/2021 21:27

OP - the starting salary for a NQT in Scotland is just under £27,500, on completion of this year it rises to £32,000. Come to Scotland.

heydoggee · 07/01/2021 21:29

I ended my career on Inner London U3 with a TLR. That was pretty kids and looking back I was absolutely minted!

heydoggee · 07/01/2021 21:29

Should add, was 33 when left teaching. So def possible to make over £50k by mid thirties.

heydoggee · 07/01/2021 21:30

Pre-kids not pretty kids ffs. Before I had kids of my own. I need to go to bed.

mustbe3 · 07/01/2021 21:34

secondary
inner london
£65000

smofty84 · 07/01/2021 21:35

I'm in Ireland (right beside Dublin) teaching 11 years and I make nearly 63000 euro a year (around £57,000)as a secondary school teacher with no additional responsibilities. Feel very lucky to have a (relatively!) good work/life balance. Summer hols are much better here too. Don't get me wrong though...we have our issues here too!!

MummaBear4321 · 07/01/2021 21:36

OP I qualified the same year as you, not in London, I am on 34k, so M5. Admittedly, my pay has dramatically increased over the past 5 years. I started on about 25k in 2016. I thought these were just standard pay scales for all teachers, although I have never worked in any other school so wasnt aware how many schools followed the M pay scales

MadameMinimes · 07/01/2021 21:37

I’ve been teaching for 11 years. I’m now an assistant head in an outer London secondary. My salary is just over £61k. I’ve always felt relatively well paid and have been lucky to work in a really great school where I’ve enjoyed my work. I think I started on about £22k as an NQT in September 2009 and have moved up the scales pretty much every year. I only moved onto my current scale last year so I have another few increments to move up before I hit the top of my range. I work in a local authority maintained school and we stick to the national pay scales and don’t look for excuses to hold staff back from pay progression.

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 07/01/2021 21:40

Unqualified teacher band 5 in an academy and I earn £26,600 not in London, not on the fringe.

NoOneOwnsTheRainbow · 07/01/2021 21:45

Oh FFS this is not even slightly M1 on the 2019 payscale. Hmm What rubbish. You were at least M3 and you haven't progressed for some performance reason (heads just make them up these days), because it's not automatic anymore, so you've gone down a bit in real terms but still nowhere near M1.
www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/pay-pensions/pay-scales/england-pay-scales.html

SaturdayAfternoon · 07/01/2021 21:46

@NeurologicallySpeaking

Also don't you have published pay scales in your school? I have worked in LEA, state academies and private and it has always been transparent. Move on- plenty of jobs for teachers about.
You’re out of date.

It’s performance related pay now and schools can choose their own scale. In theory, they can jump someone good up the scale, in reality it’s used to pay people (other than a few) as little as possible. Schools just don’t have the finances to pay more.

MadisonAvenue · 07/01/2021 21:52

My son’s a NQT in a secondary school and is on just over £25000.

Mamagotskills · 07/01/2021 21:58

Starting salary for an NQT in Scotland is around £33k now after probation. Max head teacher scale is around £100k. Not bad considering decent holidays and pension contributions

LadyfromtheBelleEpoque · 07/01/2021 21:59

@SaturdayAfternoon

My experience is

1995 NQT Outer London 15,400 with LW

1998 Outer London jumped to 19000

Left to go abroad

Returned supply in 2014 - asked to do a years contract in Inner London 2016 on 29,500

No real acknowledgement of previous years experience here or abroad. ( but was different age)

DrMadelineMaxwell · 07/01/2021 22:03

Top of upper pay scale (£41,604)

TLR2 at lowest rate for leadership responsibilities. (£2,873).

Have been teaching FOREVER.

cardibach · 07/01/2021 22:08

@rolliy

You can easily be on 50k by early 30s & I don't think it's a bad job overall when you look at pension if you have the aptitude for it.
I’ve been a teacher for 30 years and have been a head of a core subject in a secondary school. I’ve never got near 50k. Some teachers, in some roles, in some Inner London schools might. It’s definitely not something you can ’easily’ do by your 30s.
OhToBeASeahorse · 07/01/2021 22:11

Been teaching 9 years. Was on 50k as hod in an independent school 2 years ago- now on 27k as a part time rank and file teacher. Also lived in so free accommodation.

Wasnt unusual to do an 80 hr week though.